Do we really need to lower SHBG to free up test

[Cast Iron]

Whats up guys

Do we really get a benefit while on cycle using another compound to reduce SHBG?

There are hundreds of guys on different boards swearing by proviron/winny/mast ect to block or use the recepter, many others saying its a compete waste of time

If using 500 Test E per week a little of that will be converted to DHT a little to estrogen and some will get bound by SHBG leaving a little free T for building muscle.
Even though a lot of test gets bound to SHBG, the ammount in your blood is so low that it can possible only bind to 1-2grams of test.
Is it worth the extra cost of another compound to free up the little T bound, or better spending money on 600mg p/week.

Do any of you guys worry about SHBG on cycle?

 

[Nelson Montana]

That makes no sense. You;re saying just do MORE drugs to get a little more benefit? Why not do LESS drugs and get MORE benefit? And besides, proviron is pretty cheap and UNLEASHED (which is almost as good yet completely non suppressive -- you can stay on forever) cost about a buck a day.

 

[Judo Tom]

Nelson what dosage of Proviron do you suggest while on test?

 

[Cast Iron]

Why not do LESS drugs and get MORE benefit?

Thanks Nelson, so your saying that there is a benefit of reducing SHBG, while on cycle?
Yes Unleashed post cycle is great, but i'm talking on cycle

Does SHBG really bind up that much test, that your going to have a pronounced positive difference by taking a compound to reduce it.

That makes no sense. You;re saying just do MORE drugs to get a little more benefit?

It makes perfect sense! Add more test to your cycle or a another drug to reduce SHBG or even do nothing about SHBG, whats more effective?

 

[njmuscleguy]

I'd have to dig up old bloodwork from a few years back to back this up with numbers, but what I can say is that when you take something like proviron or Unleashed, you certainly FEEL more of the test in your system... especially that GRRRRR! kinda feeling that you should get with test... Unleashed does what it needs to do, is safe, and at a lower cost... proviron is a fav of mine because not only does it bind SHBG, but it's a mild anti-estrogen, has lypolitic effects, and is mildly androgenic... so yah, I think it's worth the investment

 

[Nelson Montana]

Thanks Nelson, so your saying that there is a benefit of reducing SHBG, while on cycle?
Yes Unleashed post cycle is great, but i'm talking on cycle

Does SHBG really bind up that much test, that your going to have a pronounced positive difference by taking a compound to reduce it.

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YES, IF YOU USE UNLEASHED ON CYCLE YOU GET MORE OUT OF THE TESTOSTERONE YOU'RE USING.


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It makes perfect sense! Add more test to your cycle or a another drug to reduce SHBG or even do nothing about SHBG, whats more effective?
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I'M NOT SAYING THE PROCESS DOESN'T WORK, I'M SAYING IT DOESN'T MAKE SENSE TO USE MORE DRUGS IF YOU DON'T HAVE TO.

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[squatzilla]

I agree w/ Nelson. Several times he's talked about using less drugs; I totally agree. Unfortunately, many of us have the 'Up The Dose' mentality. Another thing, the older guys like, Radar, Nelson, etc understand that recovery from a cycle becomes more difficult as we get older.