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You made that point in the other thread , dont start talking that shit in this thread also.
This is not the supplements forum or the PCT forum either so drop the subject , thank you.
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- Thread starter Nelson Montana
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You made that point in the other thread , dont start talking that shit in this thread also.
This is not the supplements forum or the PCT forum either so drop the subject , thank you.
I was going to start bashing you guys for thiis thread, but decided I had better not. Joke
However, I have noticed it, and not just here. But lurking around since the early nineties, I can still pick out what I call the winners. Its the up and coming generation, some of which I really enjoy talking to and they seem to know whats up. Its the one night wonders, that know everything, have no patients, juice cause its cool/gangster then brag about it, lack humility and that are no longer teacahable that get me a little. But you know, even if it is just what not to do, I can still learn from them too. Silly, I know.
However, I have noticed it, and not just here. But lurking around since the early nineties, I can still pick out what I call the winners. Its the up and coming generation, some of which I really enjoy talking to and they seem to know whats up. Its the one night wonders, that know everything, have no patients, juice cause its cool/gangster then brag about it, lack humility and that are no longer teacahable that get me a little. But you know, even if it is just what not to do, I can still learn from them too. Silly, I know.
We're all very aware of the dubious products on the market. But the products that you were questioning were ones that have gotten long time endorsements form hundreds of respected board members. So when you take a stance like it's all bullshit, you're essentially insulting those people, their opinions, their credibility and their word. And I don;t care how passive/aggressively you do it.
I'm not saying you cant ask questions...but...when they are posed in a confrontational and accusatory manner AS YOU PUT THEM...well, it puts people off and it puts the staff on guard.
Just to let you know.
Wow.....Somethings never change. LOL Been a while since I have been on the boards guys, but I could not see a better thread to chime back in on. Nelson to add to what you just posted above, the advice given by you and Needto on PCT and supplements has allowed me to do numerous cycles and to PCT out without losing gains as well as avoiding ED and other sides. As I see it, we were given two ears and one mouth for a reason. We should listen twice as much as we talk. Thank you to everyone on this board for being a great help on every cycle set up, training tips, PCT, and all around just good bro's. If others cannot see the value in the advice given, well, simply put, Screw em!
I think you get a couple of different types of people, whether they are trolls or whether they are just relatively new to bodybuilding or fitness. I think when people are young and inexperienced they tend to lock in on whatever it is they believe as if that is the one and only solution or they learn a bit of information and believe that they are subject matter experts. I shouldn't generalize that as being young people, but from my own observations I have seen it more in young people.
An analogy would be the guy that takes an entry level psychology class, or whatever type of class in college, and then magically becomes an expert and sees the world through the lense of the limited amount of information that they have. Every problem or every issue that comes up is viewed through that limited perspective and they see what they want to see in every circumstance to validate their own bits of knowledge or beliefs.
Bodybuilding is a completely different creature, unfortunately. While there is some general knowledge and principles that guide us, it's not like math, there's no single solution or answer for anything. Everybody is different and people's bodies respond to different things for a variety of different reasons. Learning is great and learning and sharing thoughts, ideas, and information is what makes forums like this great but the people here who share the best stuff are the ones that share their experience and thoughts, but also know enough to be willing and able to say "I don't know".
Then again, that may completely miss Nelson's point and the problem is one or two people making multiple alternate accounts just to troll and the best solution is that everybody should just ignore them or find a way to ban people by their IP address.
An analogy would be the guy that takes an entry level psychology class, or whatever type of class in college, and then magically becomes an expert and sees the world through the lense of the limited amount of information that they have. Every problem or every issue that comes up is viewed through that limited perspective and they see what they want to see in every circumstance to validate their own bits of knowledge or beliefs.
Bodybuilding is a completely different creature, unfortunately. While there is some general knowledge and principles that guide us, it's not like math, there's no single solution or answer for anything. Everybody is different and people's bodies respond to different things for a variety of different reasons. Learning is great and learning and sharing thoughts, ideas, and information is what makes forums like this great but the people here who share the best stuff are the ones that share their experience and thoughts, but also know enough to be willing and able to say "I don't know".
Then again, that may completely miss Nelson's point and the problem is one or two people making multiple alternate accounts just to troll and the best solution is that everybody should just ignore them or find a way to ban people by their IP address.
kiai
New member
Thank you !
same here. my PM box is always open.
we are just like a gym, we get tons of new members come in everyday. some have experience, some are newbs. but if you research and put in some effort in searching this forum you can really get a lot of your questions and concerns answered, we have built a lot of info and there are many logs up you can di-sect and learn from.
kx250rider
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I think it's rude to come onto any board as a new member, and start milking off the members' knowledge without having a history of offering information and sharing in discussions. And for anyone to come on and start criticizing members and complaining and being negative, is grounds for getting banned. I'm guilty of butting into others' threads, and I admit I'm sometimes too much of a braggart.... but at least I waited 'til I had been here awhile 
Charles
Charles
I wasn't going to chime in anymore but I have to admit the direction this topic has seemed to become very inspirational!
There are a lot of varying perspectives and yet everyone is keeping the golden rule "treat people with dignity and respect" in their replies!!
With that said, I commend all of you, new and old for your humility and ability to discuss a sensitive subject. This is exactly what EF forums should be for!! And thank you to those who are still offering to allow ANYONE to PM them for advice / feedback! Well done everyone!!
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There are a lot of varying perspectives and yet everyone is keeping the golden rule "treat people with dignity and respect" in their replies!!
With that said, I commend all of you, new and old for your humility and ability to discuss a sensitive subject. This is exactly what EF forums should be for!! And thank you to those who are still offering to allow ANYONE to PM them for advice / feedback! Well done everyone!!
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