Obama: "That Fence Is Basically Complete"

[EnderJE]

There's a difference between spin and a bare-faced lie.

I can't figure out how he pulls it off without more people being upset. Spin would be "We've made more progress on the border fence than any previous administration". That's got some wiggle room. But to say something that's 5% complete is "basically complete" is just a lie.

That's easy.

1) See who is in power.
2) The other team will get angry.

 

[crew9]

It's just politics.. (spin)

and yes he is a muslim. he may not think so, or consider himself one, but according to law, his father was so is he..

What law are you talking about? Last I checked I could choose to be a Muslim even if my father is Greek Orthodox. What religion your family is does not automatically make you that.

 

[javaguru]

What law are you talking about? Last I checked I could choose to be a Muslim even if my father is Greek Orthodox. What religion your family is does not automatically make you that.

Technically, Obama was a Muslim when he was born because it descends from the father based on the mythology of Islam. In Judaism, the female determines the religious orientation of the child. Once Obama was saved by Rev. Wright he became a Christian by choice and Muslims are commanded to kill the apostate Obama.

However, is he REALLY a christian?

 

[javaguru]

Could someone explain to me how that could even be spun?

To me, that seems like a bare-faced lie regardless of your specific position on border security.

I'd like to hear the pro-Obama lobby explain this one.

He lied and the Obama media will repeat his lie long enough that people will start to believe it.


I watched Rachel Maddows claim that Mitch Daniels cutting off funding for planned parenthood will kill people on medicaid.

1. If you rely on a government handout...you get government quality service...

2. I'm pretty sure planned parenthood isn't the only medicaid provider of gyno services in Indiana.

 

[cindylou]

Technically, Obama was a Muslim when he was born because it descends from the father based on the mythology of Islam. In Judaism, the female determines the religious orientation of the child. Once Obama was saved by Rev. Wright he became a Christian by choice and Muslims are commanded to kill the apostate Obama.

However, is he REALLY a christian?

lol

but those things which proceed out of the mouth come forth from "the heart"!!1

 

[Dial_tone]

I'll spin it. You are bitching about a fence Bush started with four years left in his term yet has gone nowhere. Maybe he has no intention of finishing it. I hope they don't. Based on the cost of what they built so far that fence alone could bankrupt the country.

 

[mrplunkey]

I'll spin it. You are bitching about a fence Bush started with four years left in his term yet has gone nowhere. Maybe he has no intention of finishing it. I hope they don't. Based on the cost of what they built so far that fence alone could bankrupt the country.

And how does that make the fence "Basically Complete"?

That's the part I don't get. We can debate the merits of the fence all day long, but calling it "basically complete" is just a bare-faced lie.

Have we reached a new low? Can we just completely make shit up at this point?

 

[at(almost)ANYcost]

I'll spin it. You are bitching about a fence Bush started with four years left in his term yet has gone nowhere. Maybe he has no intention of finishing it. I hope they don't. Based on the cost of what they built so far that fence alone could bankrupt the country.

Ahh ha! Eureka! The first attempt at spin in the entire thread is... "It's Bush's Fault!" HAHAHA, CLASSIC. Oh man, will it never end!?

Oh, and yeah..... ummm.... building a fence to ensure the security of our border and protecting citizens will bankrupt the country, not the um TRILLIONS of dollars in entitlement programs and Obama Care!

OH MY GOODNESS, I'm holding my sides in laughter! I can't believe Keith O is so bored now after being fired he is on Elite Fitness

 

[Dial_tone]

The fence was expected to cost $2-$4 billion dollars but it wasn't funded when it was passed so we had no idea where the money was going to come from. Sound familiar? By 2007 the estimate was up to $49 billion. Who knows what it's up to now. DHS set a goal to complete approximately 670 miles of fencing by December 31, 2008. In June 2007, it was announced that a section of the barrier had been mistakenly built from 1 to 6 feet (1.8 m) inside Mexican territory. This will necessitate the section being moved at an estimated cost of over US$3 million.

The Homeland Security Department in 2007 (you know...before Obama) began to shift its focus to erecting a “virtual fence” along the 2,000-mile border, using sensors, cameras and other high-tech equipment to prevent illegal crossings.

In 2010 the Department of Homeland Security froze funding of the project because of the expense overruns. Maintenance costs over the next 25 years are estimated at $49 billion, and the fence is only expected to last 25 years, so really this fence will cost over $100 billion by the time it's done.

I thought you guys said we needed to spend less money? This fence is a great place to do just that.

 

[calveless wonder]

welcome back Grimace