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ORGANON CANON
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I will write in caps for the first time on this board:
THE BIBLE IS BULLSHIT. IT WAS PUT IN PLACE TO MAKE PEOPLE ABIDE BY THE LAW, BUT AS THEY SAID NOT GO TO HELL. THEY MADE HELL SUCH A FEARED PLACE THAT MANY WOULDN'T COMMIT AN ACT WORTHY OF BEING SENT THERE.
THE BIBLE IS BULLSHIT. IT WAS PUT IN PLACE TO MAKE PEOPLE ABIDE BY THE LAW, BUT AS THEY SAID NOT GO TO HELL. THEY MADE HELL SUCH A FEARED PLACE THAT MANY WOULDN'T COMMIT AN ACT WORTHY OF BEING SENT THERE.
riskybizz007
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sorry... I used to agree w/ you Organon but it's been proven to me that it is impossible for man to have written the old testament by his own "made up thoughts". For one, Moses wrote over 500 medical laws thousands of years ago that still apply today. Even 120 years ago surgeons didn't clean instruments b/w patients and they were dying left and right and nobody knew why. Moses wrote about it back then thousands of years ago. And back then people thought they were getting sick b/c of witches and druids or some stuff like that, and God told them what to do, and it was b/c of God's help they saved those tribes. And like i said, he clarified sicknesses, diseases, and what to do about it. And not one of those laws has been disproven. Either Moses was a genious beyond belief, and farther advanced than anyone who has walked the planet, or the Bible was right, he did talk to God and always received his messages.
Another thing I found funny I saw on T.V. the other day, on a regular channel was talking about fortune telling, the future, bible prophesy etc. The host said, all people who could tell the future were never 100% correct all the time. The only people who were always 100% correct in all of their predictions/prophesies were the prophets of the bibles. Generations through generations they have been right, b/c their prophesies came through God. And you may think it's b.s., but if you read up on some stuff they find here and there you'll actually see that certain things they talk about in the bible have been found today by archeologist. For one i know they found the old babylon, which is found in the southern part of Iraq. They also found the walls of Jerricho, and many other things.
Another aspect of it is Bible Code. The original language the bible was written in Hebrew, when spaced out the letters, you can actually find thousands upon thousands of hidden messages there. When they tried doing it w/ other books, they tried every language known in the planet, and w/ thousands of other books and never came up w/ more than 2 or 3 words. Now in the bible you can find over 50,000 if not more. But this will only work w/ the old testament. Now again Moses must have been the biggest genious in the world or when Moses said he actualy talked to God, he actually did talk to God.
There's tons of things i can offer you as proof, i've heard it all b/c i didn't believe before. But nothing will convince you if you're not ready to receive Christ in your life. Until the day I actually sat down and read it, and researched all this stuff, I found out it was actually for real. I heard a similar story about a Professor in Harvard University who taught law. He for many years was an Atheist, then one student challenged him and said, "Prove to me that Jesus didn't exist, and that his teachings are false". He did the same thing I did, researched and read, and came up w/ the same thing. Jesus is for real, He did walk the earth, and we both accept him as Son Of God.
Another thing I found funny I saw on T.V. the other day, on a regular channel was talking about fortune telling, the future, bible prophesy etc. The host said, all people who could tell the future were never 100% correct all the time. The only people who were always 100% correct in all of their predictions/prophesies were the prophets of the bibles. Generations through generations they have been right, b/c their prophesies came through God. And you may think it's b.s., but if you read up on some stuff they find here and there you'll actually see that certain things they talk about in the bible have been found today by archeologist. For one i know they found the old babylon, which is found in the southern part of Iraq. They also found the walls of Jerricho, and many other things.
Another aspect of it is Bible Code. The original language the bible was written in Hebrew, when spaced out the letters, you can actually find thousands upon thousands of hidden messages there. When they tried doing it w/ other books, they tried every language known in the planet, and w/ thousands of other books and never came up w/ more than 2 or 3 words. Now in the bible you can find over 50,000 if not more. But this will only work w/ the old testament. Now again Moses must have been the biggest genious in the world or when Moses said he actualy talked to God, he actually did talk to God.
There's tons of things i can offer you as proof, i've heard it all b/c i didn't believe before. But nothing will convince you if you're not ready to receive Christ in your life. Until the day I actually sat down and read it, and researched all this stuff, I found out it was actually for real. I heard a similar story about a Professor in Harvard University who taught law. He for many years was an Atheist, then one student challenged him and said, "Prove to me that Jesus didn't exist, and that his teachings are false". He did the same thing I did, researched and read, and came up w/ the same thing. Jesus is for real, He did walk the earth, and we both accept him as Son Of God.
Bulldog_10
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Religion is for losers...
Lao Tzu
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spentagn said:Ever heard of the New Testament?
uh huh
Matthew 19: 16-26
And behold, one came up to him, saying, "Teacher, what good deed must I do, to have eternal life?" And he said to him, "Why do you ask me about what is good? One there is who is good. If you would enter life, keep the commandments." He said to him, "Which?" And Jesus said, "You shall not kill, You shall not commit adultery, You shall not steal, You shall not bear false witness, Honour your father and mother, and, You shall love your neighbour as yourself." The young man said to him, "All these I have observed; what do I still lack?" Jesus said to him, "If you would be perfect, go, sell what you possess and give to the poor, and you will have treasure in heaven; and come, follow me." When the young man heard this he went away sorrowful; for he had great possessions. And Jesus said to his disciples, "Truly, I say to you, it will be hard for a rich man to enter the kingdom of heaven. Again I tell you, it is easier for a camel to go through the eye of a needle than for a rich man to enter the kingdom of God." When the disciples heard this they were greatly astonished, saying, "Who then can be saved?"
lets see pat robertson talk his way out of that one. it is considered a sign of god's blessing to have money.
i agree with scrappy's new sig. it's just a trick. it doesn't matter what the bible says.
suicide
rape
pimping
drug dealing
none of these things (i assume) is condemned by the bible, but you are percieved as going to hell for doing them anyway. its all a big trick to enforce the status quo.
C
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It's not a matter of 'following', it's simply knowing our history.
We don't follow the rules from our days as a colony of the UK, but they can still be found in history books.
Moses gave us the Ten Commandments as directed by God to make way for Jesus' Gospel which is one and the same. Doing so, Moses dissolved the Law of Moses, which at the time of the Sermon on the Mount has over 300 incredibly strict ordinances.
It's one thing to copy and paste this from a website, it's a whole different ballgame to actually Study (note I didn't say 'read') it.
Take your Christmas break, stufy it and then lets talk, until then it's not unlike Me giving You legal advice
We don't follow the rules from our days as a colony of the UK, but they can still be found in history books.
Moses gave us the Ten Commandments as directed by God to make way for Jesus' Gospel which is one and the same. Doing so, Moses dissolved the Law of Moses, which at the time of the Sermon on the Mount has over 300 incredibly strict ordinances.
It's one thing to copy and paste this from a website, it's a whole different ballgame to actually Study (note I didn't say 'read') it.
Take your Christmas break, stufy it and then lets talk, until then it's not unlike Me giving You legal advice
Sushi X
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i'm going to jump in here and hopefully shed some light on the subject. people who do not believe the bible do what they accuse christians of doing and that is taking only small parts and using them for their purpose. funny aint it. for one the old testament is basically for us to use a history of God's people and to learn from them. the laws there are for the old jewish religions(currently practiced today by most of the jews) not for the new testament church. remember the jews rejected Jesus cause they were bent on their old laws. the new testament odes incoporate some of the old testament laws, ie the ten commandments. however, new laws were set up as well. if you read the old testament you will see that rape, incest, fornication, blasphemy and many other sins you claim are not in the new testament are infact still part of laws or odinances in the new testament. the main difference in the old and new testament is the way of worship. Jesus is the sacrifice that was given for our sins, no longer do we have to give blood sacrifices and burn incence. we take of the lord's supper(communion) every sunday morning as Jesus commanded us to do in remembrance of him. i could go on and on but i'm not going to argue with a bunch of misinformed non believers who have nothing better to do with life than try to disprove the undisprovable. give up, it has been tried for the last 2000 years and even the mighty darwin on his death bed stated he was wrong and that God created the earth. you won't find that in the traditional text books as they try to eliminate God and Christ out of everyday american life but not people are turning to the very God they once rejected. why? well they now realize their own mortality and are seeking answers science, buddah, confucious and many others can't offer. God can , nuff said. peace. case closed. arguing further is futile cause nobody is going to change nobody's position. it's a waste of internet time to do so. let's just end it on this, each is to their own.
riskybizz007
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Hey bro i didn't know that about Darwin. That's actually pretty shocking, considering i see a fish (symbol of christ) w/ the name darwin in the middle. I saw that as an outright insult, but considering the dude was on his death bed and claimed he was wrong, and that God does exist, that just kinda shocked me.
I believe same thing you do. Arguing aint gonna get us anywhere. I been there and done that, and like these people are saying, do the research and believe what you want to. I did the research and it took a few years to finally realize it, i was very skeptical in the past.
I don't belong to any one particular religion, i just study and read the bible for what it is, and try to follow it. And to those that believe you're going to hell for this or that, if you didn't know, Jesus died for our sins to be forgiven. At least that was 1 of the reasons he died for us. He loves you and will forgive you of whatever you do. If you study the bible you will see that many of the prophets of the old Testament were bad people before they encountered God. Moses was a murderer before God called him, Noah was an alcoholic, Abraham had i don't know how many wives. And who were the people Jesus chose to follow him? The worst in society. Which means God does not have preferance, he does not favor those w/ money, or those who are broke.
I know i strayed off the subject a bit there. For those of you who actually do read the bible and are interested in a report I did about End Times email me at [email protected] my operamail email doesn't work. I back everything up w/ facts happening today and scripture. E me if interested.
I believe same thing you do. Arguing aint gonna get us anywhere. I been there and done that, and like these people are saying, do the research and believe what you want to. I did the research and it took a few years to finally realize it, i was very skeptical in the past.
I don't belong to any one particular religion, i just study and read the bible for what it is, and try to follow it. And to those that believe you're going to hell for this or that, if you didn't know, Jesus died for our sins to be forgiven. At least that was 1 of the reasons he died for us. He loves you and will forgive you of whatever you do. If you study the bible you will see that many of the prophets of the old Testament were bad people before they encountered God. Moses was a murderer before God called him, Noah was an alcoholic, Abraham had i don't know how many wives. And who were the people Jesus chose to follow him? The worst in society. Which means God does not have preferance, he does not favor those w/ money, or those who are broke.
I know i strayed off the subject a bit there. For those of you who actually do read the bible and are interested in a report I did about End Times email me at [email protected] my operamail email doesn't work. I back everything up w/ facts happening today and scripture. E me if interested.
DamnRedneck
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RyanH said:
Damn son, you sure 'bout all that? I mean, the good lord may get angry, but if you believe in Christ he'll probably forgive you.
