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Xenedrine...scrary stuff

Personally i don't think it should be banned, the people who misuse it should be the ones banned from taking it. 95% of the time when people die or get seriously ill from the stuff are the ones who have abused it or who haven't read the warnings about mixing it with other drugs or taking it while having certain conditions. Sure there are some cases where someone hasn't abused it and still have very negative sides...but maybe they had an underlying condition which interacted with the ephedrine. In any case, people who are seriously considering using this type of stuff should be well educated on it and it's effects on other conditions and mixing it with certain meds or conditions
 
gymtime said:
But the question is, should it be banned? The horror stories have been getting a lot of press of late. Are these problems enough to make it illegal?

That would be similar to banning sleeping pills. If you don't use it properly, you will get a negative bodily reaction. Just as in this case with the Xenadrine - it apparently wasn't used properly.
Obviously, people consume these products without knowing what it can and will do to one's body. It comes as no surprise that those who experience negative effects from these drugs are also the same persons who just assume that something over the counter that is for sale must be safe. I believe there have been other products that have received bad reputations because of ignorant misuse - Dexatrim, No Doz, etc.
Why make these things illegal to everyone just because a small group of people get bent out of shape because they didn't do their homework on a pill they were about to swallow? The problem is not in the pill, but the blinded consumer who does not know the limits of their own bodies and what they put into them

SK.
 
ShadowKnight said:


That would be similar to banning sleeping pills.

Not even remotely similar. Like I said, I'm libertarian about most things. Adults can make their own decisions. For that reason, I think suing "Big Tobacco" is groundless. Et cetera.

But, in my own situation, I took the recommended dosage. Not on an empty stomach. And I had the reaction I described.

If I was a kid--under enormous pressure to, for example--make a weight class in wrestling, or fit into a size 0 dress--I might not let the above reaction deter me. And I might take it again.

And I might--again, this is hypothetical--fuck myself up for a good long time. Well after I stopped taking the stuff.

I agree with your arguments, I really do. (The libertarian in me....) But once you have that physiological reaction yourself, all bets are off. And you are appalled that this stuff is out there, pretty much unregulated.
 
I took Xenadrine for an entire summer, and it helped a lot. I never took more than two at a time. But it helped me a lot, I lost 30 pounds. But some guys I know can't take it, their stomach's just wont do it, but I know that if you took it on an empty stomach it just killed me. Maybe that is the problem.
 
buk - so since you personally had a bad experience, you would ban if for everyone? Even considering the small number of bad reactions compared to the enormous number of satisfied users?
 
gymtime said:
buk - so since you personally had a bad experience, you would ban if for everyone? Even considering the small number of bad reactions compared to the enormous number of satisfied users?

I guess "small number of bad reactions" is subjective. I personally would say: "very large number of horrific reactions" but tomato, tomahto.

To answer your question: No, I guess I wouldn't ban it. That's just not my politics. Maybe I would make it by prescription, for folks whose excess weight poses a danger?

Actually, I would just like to put that obstacle in place for the sake of there being an obstacle. So people wouldn't just take it on a whim, because it's there.
 
Well, when I say "small number...", I'm just talking in terms of ratios. And I of course don't have exact numbers. But I have to believe based on my experience that the number of negative reactions compared to the number of tablets sold has got to be pretty damn small. Especially when you consider the dumbasses who took too much of it. I'd think the number of bad reactions by people who actually stuck to the recommended dose would be even smaller, again, by comparison.

Either way, I think it's a good product. However, I think there should be some kind of warning on the bottle itself.
 
it can have that effect on some people. u gota be careful, just because thats the recommended dosage doesn't mean you HAVE to use that. You should always start lower and work your way up. I've used xen and i started with 1 pill, i could pop 3 and just be a bit light headed, it all depends, just be careful
 
the guys are right listen to them take notes print this shit what ever but learn b4 doing shit

i have to stop reading this thread its making me weezy...
dont abuse the product respect it and it will respect back.
later
 
Audacious1 said:
If she wants to try something else...which i am sure she probably won't, have her try Adipokinetics...it doesn't have the crazy sides like Xenadrine or Hydroxycut and it helps greatly with fat loss in the lower body...

I think the Adipo Kinetix is alot more harsh on your body. I had taken Xenadrine for a month, lost 12lbs but the side effects diminished after 2-3 wks. I have been taking Adipo for now the 3rd week and these pills are nuts. i can only take 1 a day and i lost 5lbs in 1 wk. they are great for working out but i have gotten sick on them by doing cardio b/c i can't get my heart rate down to normal quick enough. my heart races for an extended period of time on Adipo.......but i do live by the stuff and i have tried to get some people to make the switch from Xenadrine/Hydroxycut/Stackers to Adipo Kinetix. I guess it all depends on your body and what you can stand.
 
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