Xenedrine...scrary stuff

[Frackal]

For those of you who had adverse reactions, did you heed the directions of taking 1/2 the recommended dosage the first time to asses your tolerance?

Buksoon, here you go again.

You say that suing big tobacco is groundless, yet you suggest banning ephedrine because you got shaky from it? Are you that egotistical?

Interesting you say that suing big tobacco is groundless, when cigarrettes kill more people by a huge margin than any other product on the market, used just as they are intended, to be lit, inhaled, and blown out, yet you say that ephedrine should be illegal because you followed directions and had a 'reaction.' (probably a panic attack or hypersensitivity to stimulants, did you take 1/2 the recommended dosage to test your tolerance?)

 

[Molle_23]

Anyway, I think clen is superior to deff/cutting, and also more price worth !!!

 

[georgie24]

today was my firtst day on xen it went very well
my preworkout drink consisted of red rage formula (330ml)
and i pill of xenadrine ,i was goosed up pretty fucking good and had a platue breaking workout..other than that xen i give it 2 thumbs up


later

 

[cockdezl]

For every horror story you hear about the dangers of ECA, there tends to be an idiot.

"But the hazards are way too real. So many student athletes acquire serious and permanent problems. So many women with body dysmorphia and what have you just die. "

"SO MANY...", can you quantify this, or it is just your perception of media hype?

"I took it ephedra once. Not as an appetite suppressant, but for the pre-workout energy it promised.

I was in absolute disbelief that the stuff was legal!....."

"Normally I'm this total libertarian about such things. "Hey, do what you want" is my attitude. Not in this case. I would love to see it made illegal."

Sounds like you could switch to Democrat anyday.

 

[MS]

Hmmmm should it be banned......put it in perspective. 100,000 Americans will go into hospital this year with serious life threatening gastrintestinal bleeding from taking commonly available anti inflammatories. Many of these people will bleed to death. A fifth of all elederly patients die from adverse drug reactions. Adverse drug reactions are now the 4th leading cause of ALL deaths in America. Many of these drugs are OTC, many of these drugs will be taken on prescription from a physician. So maybe the safest bet would be to just ban drugs. All drugs are dangerous if taken by the wrong person, or in the wrong way, or in combo with other drugs/underlying medical problems. Even aspirin.

 

[Bikini Mod]

I personally, practically LIVE on a product called Dymetidrine Xtreme (ECA stack). I do not take it as a fat burner per say, but as a stimulant to keep me functioning throughout the day... If I take two before a workout - I NEVER BOTTOM OUT.

Do I abuse the product? Some may say, "Yes"... but I NEVER exceed the recommended dosage and only take it when I NEED it... take one first thing in the am then maybe two more throught the day if I NEED it...if I have to work late or have a loooooooong drive.

Bottom line is: it is my body, I can read labels, I can tell when I am "pushing it" and if I drop dead then IT IS ON ME.

Yes, I know that I should sleep more, unfortunately with all that is going on in my life sleep is a precious commodity indeed .....even when I DO not have to rise early or stay up late their is some task (more laundry or a bit of insomnia due to worry about stuff, etc) or my damned cat jumps on me at 5AM and demands I play w/her.... or, of course, the kiddies decide to get up EVEN THOUGH I TELL THEM WE CAN SLEEP IN! hehehheee

My point being that just because a few people have had a "reaction" (which I am TRULY sorry they did and hope that they will be OK) that does not mean that a substance should be banned. I am lactose intolerant does that mean that ice-cream should be banned?!

Most (if not all) of these products advise that one should begin slowly taking HALF of the recommended dosage to determine their sensitivity (if any) to the product. If you take something once and have and adverse reaction, then continue to take it "just because" well I think you know what my opinion will be -

YOU DID IT TO YOURSELF.

 

[MS]

I think the only drugs that should be banned are those that are notoriuos for causing harm to people that haven't even taken the drug. Alcohol and tobacco come to mind.........As long as the label warnings are clear and no one else will likely be harmed, I can't see any justification for banning a drug. But I do think the general public needs to be more educated about possible drug interactions so they don't go mixing their ephedrine with their MAOIs or underlying cardiac disease (the labels say to check with your Dr. before using for a very good reason), so they don't take their St John's Wort with a glass of grapefruit juice, or worse yet with their Prozac, or their aspirin with their Warfarin, or their Warfarin with their grapefruit juice for that matter.

 

[lonewulf]

Hey, I agree that what you put in your body is your own business. I dont think drugs should be illegal. More people die trying to control drugs than anyone using. I think drug use would lose some of its appeal if it were legal too. However, the thermogenics that contain ECA are pretty potent. Most people dont have a problem with them, that is true, but most people dont have short term problems with speed, and cocaine either. I use thermogenics, so I am not saying they are bad, but I really cant believe our over-protective government hasnt banned them yet.

 

[Canadian Viking]

to ban or not to ban!!!!!

I think the real question here is since it is a natural herb it will be found plentiful banned or not, what has a more severe effect, not using such a problem oriented drug, keeping on the weight, and the health risks associated with the weight or use the herb and take the risks there. If used correctly the number of people that benifit far outweigh the others. I've used RipFuel, Exen, Hydrox, and a mix of A.S.A.- Ephedrine-Caffine on more that one occassion and followed the directions to a T and only positive results, I did get carried away with the three way mix though and got off it after I lost 20Lbs in one weekend but oh I felt good. That was when I was young and stupid, I've since read up tons on the net and consulted docs and dieticians and have gone to the more regulated mixes like rip, hydro, and ex. Still workin great but only a month at a time then I take a break to not allow my body to get used to the herb. I started with the self regulated mix and wouldn't go back down that road. The pre mix rocks.

 

[Blackalpha]

I support the idea that EC diet pills can enhance weight loss but I have some proofs that it doesn't worth taking the risk.. eventhough I had used this product quite a few times in the past.

It is easy to lose weight, but keeping it off is the challenge. How can ephedra and caffeine be a solution for weight loss?
A person’s body gets use to the substances ingested each day, especially something addicting like ehperda and caffeine,so discontinuing the use of the pills could also leave the person feeling weak,tired and fatigued easily.

If a person uses ehpedra and caffeine as a temporary appetite suppressor, the lost weight would be easy to gain back.

Larger doses of ephedrine and caffeine or other stimulants may have slightly enhance weight loss in individuals that exercise and maintain a low fat diet but the adverse effects are far greater than the small enhancement of weight loss.

Caffeine does stimulate the nervous system,which then increases heart rate but it does not increase metabolic rate or the ability for the body to burn more calories than usual.
The dosage in the EC pills is said to be equal to 6 cups of coffee a day.This high level of caffeine will cause “jitters,irritability, insomnia and elevated blood pressure.

Caffeine is also a diuretic, which seems good because excess water would leave the body via urine,but the problem is that even though the body weight is decreasing, the body fat is not.
Also,there are not any studies that show a significant and permanent weight loss from caffeine.

As for ehpedra,FDA advises a person not to consume more than 24 mg a day or more than 8 mg at one time.You can tell me that FDA's principles are garbage but many different side affects can occur from taking these pills:nervousness, headache, insomnia, heart palpitations, and dizziness.Ephedrine and caffeine could also have an effect on blood pressure and blood sugar.People with high blood pressure, a history of cardiovascular or thyroid disease,diabetes,prostate problems or are taking prescription medicine are advised not to take these products.

So,it's up to yourself to consider whether you want to use such a supplement or not.