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I had the funniest argument with my friend last night and I actually talked about it in a different post a minute ago so I figured I'd make a thread on it. I was looking at the Issue of Flex with triple H on the cover and he is dead set in his opinion that Triple H and Brock Lesner are all natural lol. I thought it was fuckin hilarious but I just want to know if someone agrees with him and why. Have any of you seen Brock Lesner lol. I dont think you could build that without gear. Well watever people are retarded. Anybody have similar stories or discussion with people and wat is your opinion????
 
1- most people are wrong on the steroid issue. It goes to both ends of the spectrum, though. Some think everyone that has even a slight bit of muscle is on steriods (those are the guys that whisper "steroids" behind your back in the bathroom at the bar or the ballgame), and, the other group thinks no one is, even with freaky muscle & hardness. Really, only juicers like us know whats really going on.......:)
 
Stillgoing said:
1- most people are wrong on the steroid issue. It goes to both ends of the spectrum, though. Some think everyone that has even a slight bit of muscle is on steriods (those are the guys that whisper "steroids" behind your back in the bathroom at the bar or the ballgame), and, the other group thinks no one is, even with freaky muscle & hardness. Really, only juicers like us know whats really going on.......:)

So, can I deduct that gear makes you smarter??? :insane:
 
they're indeed very well built but bloated like a fuckin water baloon.
i think somebody should offer those dudes some lasix.:beer:
 
Its not even in question, McMahon hjas had indictments against him for supplying steroids to wrestlers. They could sure use some liquidex though.
 
It doesn't sound like we have many wrestling fans on the board. I myself love wrestling, but are they natural?hehehe....that's funny. I remember when Triple H first came to WWE, he was like half his size and so was his forehead. Hey, he looks great but he's not just taking his vitamins. I have a question for u guys. I know you know who Scott Steiner(aka Big Poppa Pump) is, is that synthol or do u think someone can have peaks that big? Just curious what u think.
 
Steiner would be the blonde freak that bumpo was referring to I am sure... A better question would be... What the hell is up with his chest muscle, or the lack there of?

Anyone wanting to readup on steriods in wrestling should pick up or borrow a copy of a book titled "Pure Dynamite" it the story of the Dynamite Kid who wrestled as part of the WWF in the 80s'. Damn good read, he doesn't hold too much back unlike Mick Foley and the other have done.
 
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I did real wrestling in HS and part of college, this stuff is suck a joke to me, can be entertaining to watch tho
 
Dynamite Kid was pretty short, built but short, much like Chris Beniot is now, maybe a little shorter than Beniot. He tag with Davey Boy smith as part of the British Bulldogs, long before Davey Boy decided that would be just his name. Dynamite was always impressive in the ring.
 
Stillgoing said:
1- most people are wrong on the steroid issue. It goes to both ends of the spectrum, though. Some think everyone that has even a slight bit of muscle is on steriods (those are the guys that whisper "steroids" behind your back in the bathroom at the bar or the ballgame), and, the other group thinks no one is, even with freaky muscle & hardness. Really, only juicers like us know whats really going on.......:)

hit the nail on the head
 
Johnny Cut said:
I did real wrestling in HS and part of college, this stuff is suck a joke to me, can be entertaining to watch tho


Why don't you get trained to be a pro wrestler and then tell me if its still a joke to you! The amount of conditioning is amazing, plus the amount of pain. You would wish you were back in your little high school wrestling, cause I bet you couldn't make it as a pro wrestler.
 
bro calm the fuck down

i didnt say they wernt conditioned did i?,hmm nope i didnt, did i say they dont work hard? nope, I said i did real wrestling, u know like in the olympics!, not the acting/pretend kind, dont worry i watch the MTV show Tough Enough too, they do work hard....read a post before u start making assumptions about what people say.....newbie
 
I have met several pro wrestlers repeatedly and I will leave names out but I can tell you they juice. I work in a gym in an area where they come in often and I have been given stuff by them for free. The guys are real cool and train like mother fuckers, but make no mistake about it... they juice.

Hell, they made me bigger. Mostly because I think they felt bad for me being such a little bitch!:p
 
There's no doubt about it, they train damn hard and they take some damn good bumps too! Brock Lesnar was wrestling with NCAA before the WWE found him so we know he has a "real" wrestling background. He's a very impressive wrestler that's for sure. He's a little too watery on the physique note, big, but too watery. Now, Chris Benoit has an awesome build and he's a kickass wrestler too. Same goes for Kurt Angle, awesome technical wrestler and awesome body!
 
Yes, emphatically, YES!

Do they all, likely no, but without hesitation or reservation we can conclude that the majority are using or have used chemical compounds to enhance their bodies.

I know first hand too--I worked out in a northern state with a guy under WWE contract (name withheld) and I borrowed him a few items myself. And he is a MINOR character.
 
I myself plan on getting into wrestling once finished with college and steroids are used by many wrestlers. Kurt Angle is a guy though who I believe is natural as he just has an incredible work ethic. I just read the other day that this guy's brother ran into Brock Lesnar's brother in Canada and Brock's brother was saying how Brock is completely against drugs, steroids, etc. Now it is possible to get his size without drugs as he is 6'3'' and around 295. He isn't really vascular, but the only thing with him is that he was pretty skinny until about his junior year in college where he all of a sudden blew up. Hell I work at a Gold's here in Vegas and during the olympia HHH, Stephanie, and Kevin Nash all came in and were talking about gear over at our juice bar. Wrestlers take so much abuse physically that steroids are almost a must for a majority of them.
 
Spike Dudley claimed to be natural... I am inclined to agree with him. :)

C-ditty
 
i have read extracts about dynamite kid aswell. i think he said that he got upto injecting 3cc's of gear every day in each cheek. or it may have been altogether.

wrestlers just wanna look big and very few need or want the drawback, in their case, of being too vascular. becuase it will hold back their mobility. so saying that so and so isnt cut up and looks shit means nothing to them becuase they dont need or want it.

scott steiner is more of a pretty boy wrestler and so prob wants to look good therefore maybe uses synthanol. but u cant say for certain. he would have some pretty amazingly cut up and huge arms training as he does.
 
I cant believe someone just suggested Brock Lesnar was natural, there is no way you can get traps like that naturally, that guy is so huge its insane.
Spike Dudley must also be a huge juicer!
 
Big Anaconda said:
I cant believe someone just suggested Brock Lesnar was natural, there is no way you can get traps like that naturally, that guy is so huge its insane.
Spike Dudley must also be a huge juicer!
I was thnking thinking the same thing! There is no way and I don't think Kurt Angle is natural either. He might have been when he came into WWE but he's put on some pretty major size since he got there!
 
heavywear said:
the deal with the WWE is you come in CLEAN, pass the test and then do what you will. Coming from a friend of mine debuting soon as "House of Pain!"

getting the crap beat out of you, different city every other night, trying to train, eat and recover....and natural. yeah, right. :worried:

I couldn't have said it better myself!:D
 
Silverback316 said:
I myself plan on getting into wrestling once finished with college and steroids are used by many wrestlers. Kurt Angle is a guy though who I believe is natural as he just has an incredible work ethic.

Ever catch a glimpse of Angles back? The guy has some major bacne scars. Same with Eddie. Also, notice how Angle has been bloated for quite soem time now. If the guy was natural before, hes not natural anymore. Angle is definitely hitting it.

Silverback316 said:
I just read the other day that this guy's brother ran into Brock Lesnar's brother in Canada and Brock's brother was saying how Brock is completely against drugs, steroids, etc. Now it is possible to get his size without drugs as he is 6'3'' and around 295. He isn't really vascular, but the only thing with him is that he was pretty skinny until about his junior year in college where he all of a sudden blew up.

A lets not forget those nice pair of titties Brock Lesnar has. Hell, if I was any sort of family member of any of those guys, Id also say they dont do drugs. Brock is bloated and has tits, the guy is juicin.

I'll go so far as to say about the only guys who arent juicing are Spike and Jeff Hardy...though from the looks of thing Jeff could use some GH and Test to treat that wasting disease he seems to have. The guy was skinny to begin with, but now hes just a skeleton.

Even the little guys like Kidman and Mysterio look to be aobut 30lbs heavier than they were back in the WCW days. Dont forget, these guys have hellish travel schedules. They probably get next to nothing in terms of sleep, probably dont have the time or resources ot get six high protien meals a day, have to put in weight and cardio workouts in addition to thier wrestling workouts. Talk about loosing sleep, poor diet, and overtraining. TO sustain the life a full time Pro Wrestler, and to keep any kind of muscle mass would require to hit some juice.
 
Silverback316 said:
I myself plan on getting into wrestling once finished with college and steroids are used by many wrestlers. Kurt Angle is a guy though who I believe is natural as he just has an incredible work ethic. I just read the other day that this guy's brother ran into Brock Lesnar's brother in Canada and Brock's brother was saying how Brock is completely against drugs, steroids, etc. Now it is possible to get his size without drugs as he is 6'3'' and around 295. He isn't really vascular, but the only thing with him is that he was pretty skinny until about his junior year in college where he all of a sudden blew up. Hell I work at a Gold's here in Vegas and during the olympia HHH, Stephanie, and Kevin Nash all came in and were talking about gear over at our juice bar. Wrestlers take so much abuse physically that steroids are almost a must for a majority of them.

That is bullshit, Brock has bitch tits and puffy nips! Take a close look at him.
 
Hell it seems to me that the majority of you think that if someone has any kind of muscle what so ever that they must be on something. I am not going to say I know for a fact that someone is juicing unless I know for sure. Of course guys like HHH and Scott Steiner are as is a lot of others, but I think some of you on here have self esteem issues and like to say someone is juicing to justify your actions. It is fucking possible to gain muscle naturally by working hard, eating right, and having good genetics so don't act like juicing is the only fucking way to get that way.
 
Silverback316 said:
I myself plan on getting into wrestling once finished with college and steroids are used by many wrestlers. Kurt Angle is a guy though who I believe is natural as he just has an incredible work ethic. I just read the other day that this guy's brother ran into Brock Lesnar's brother in Canada and Brock's brother was saying how Brock is completely against drugs, steroids, etc. Now it is possible to get his size without drugs as he is 6'3'' and around 295. He isn't really vascular, but the only thing with him is that he was pretty skinny until about his junior year in college where he all of a sudden blew up. Hell I work at a Gold's here in Vegas and during the olympia HHH, Stephanie, and Kevin Nash all came in and were talking about gear over at our juice bar. Wrestlers take so much abuse physically that steroids are almost a must for a majority of them.

Right on the money here about Angle. As far as Lesnar, I do know that over a four year period in college he put on about 100 lbs. The guy was incredible in college, if memory is correct he lost only 1 match his final 2 years.
As you mentioned about the "O", before the evening show my training partner( who was judgeing the show), myself and my wife were getting a bite to eat and HHH and Nash were seated next to us. Through mutual friends we all were introduced and in a matter of minutes the topic of GH was brought up which led to other discussion. From what I got out of it the bulk of what is used is test and GH......and quite a bit less than I would have thought. I have to say, Nash was tall as hell !
 
JC Grifter said:



Why don't you get trained to be a pro wrestler and then tell me if its still a joke to you! The amount of conditioning is amazing, plus the amount of pain. You would wish you were back in your little high school wrestling, cause I bet you couldn't make it as a pro wrestler.


Chill out, champ.

I am one.

And for the love of God don't ask me my name.

And yes, Brock is on the sauce.

I deny that I am too.

Doesn't everybody?
 
Its pretty much guaranteed that all the big players in WWE are on some sort of juice. Even Ken Shamrock was on the sauce. He put on some size in a relative short amount of time. Same goes for Kurt Angle. Sometimes his face is so swollen and bloated, looks like he's going to explode. Even The Rock admitted on Howard Stern that he had surgery on his chest. Howard jokingly said he had bitch tits and had to get them removed.

I just found out this week that the 6'6 280-290 lb shredded 10% bodyfat or less guy (Batista) thats been working at the Golds I go to is in the WWE. I've seen him there in the last couple months. Everyone just stares in awe at him when he's there. Me standing next to him at 6'0 185 lbs, i look like a big chump. He looks even more shredded in person than on TV. I couldn't even imagine someone like me wrestling him in WWE. What a mismatch it would be. He's even bigger than some of the Wash Redskins players i see around.

I've seen him work out and he sure hits the weights pretty hard and intense. I think Steiner and him are the biggest and have the best physiques in the WWE. Triple H is big too, but nowhere as shredded.
 
Silverback316 said:
Hell it seems to me that the majority of you think that if someone has any kind of muscle what so ever that they must be on something. I am not going to say I know for a fact that someone is juicing unless I know for sure. Of course guys like HHH and Scott Steiner are as is a lot of others, but I think some of you on here have self esteem issues and like to say someone is juicing to justify your actions. It is fucking possible to gain muscle naturally by working hard, eating right, and having good genetics so don't act like juicing is the only fucking way to get that way.


:rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes:

This guy may or may not juice:
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But this guy obviously juices:
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You're right HHH and Steiner are like 10x bigger than Brock, its sooo obvious they juice, but that 300lb monkey may or may not :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes:

BUt I have self esteem issues, because Im 6' 2" and 220 and that Brock Guy is 2 inches taller than me and has well over 80lbs of muscle on me. So my ego wont allow me to believe he got to 300 by eating his Mega Mass 4000, his Cell Tech and Nitro Tech every morning.

Yes it is possible to add good mass without juice. BUt these guys arent normal people, who lead normal lives. They cant even live a BBers life. The travel schedule alone would prevent any natural guy from getting and keeping any seirous kind of mass, let alone the kind of mass some of those guys carry.

You need to grow up and face reality bro. This aint a flame, just being frank. When you take into account the travel schedule, the lack of sleep, the lack of getting good food 6 times a day, the cardio, weight and ring workouts, theres just no way.
 
Next thing Im gonna hear is that HOgan got his 24" Pythons By Training, Saying his prayers and eating his vitamins. :rolleyes: :rolleyes: Vitamin Dbol and the Test-Complex Vitamins is more like it
 
hitmeoff said:
But this guy obviously juices:
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You're right HHH and Steiner are like 10x bigger than Brock, its sooo obvious they juice, but that 300lb monkey may or may not :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes:

BUt I have self esteem issues, because Im 6' 2" and 220 and that Brock Guy is 2 inches taller than me and has well over 80lbs of muscle on me. So my ego wont allow me to believe he got to 300 by eating his Mega Mass 4000, his Cell Tech and Nitro Tech every morning.

Yes it is possible to add good mass without juice. BUt these guys arent normal people, who lead normal lives. They cant even live a BBers life. The travel schedule alone would prevent any natural guy from getting and keeping any seirous kind of mass, let alone the kind of mass some of those guys carry.

You need to grow up and face reality bro. This aint a flame, just being frank. When you take into account the travel schedule, the lack of sleep, the lack of getting good food 6 times a day, the cardio, weight and ring workouts, theres just no way.
All I am saying is it is very possible to have Brock's body naturally. Triple H is of a lot more vascular than Brock also so that is why I said he may or may not be natural. I am sure Brock does juice, but my point was that you can look like that naturally. Also even though wrestlers travel a lot and get little sleep they can still eat good if they wanted. How hard is it to bring meal replacements with you in a bag with a shaker bottle. If I am fortunate to get into the WWE someday I know that is what I would do so I don't see why they couldn't do it. They also get to train everyday as well so while they do travel a lot they still get their workouts in. I am 6'1'' and 250 right now at about 8 % bf and 21 years old and I know for a fact I could look like Brock within a year or two of training naturally. I know what is up with these guys I just get sick when everyone thinks everyone juices. Kurt Angle is 6'1'' or so and weighs around 235 lbs. Now he can easily maintain that weight naturally and I personally would like to think that he is.
 
This thread inspired me to blow the dust off my pile of old WWF magazines.... I've found a few pics of Triple H (or Hunter Hearst Helmsley, as he was known) when he first debuted.... of course that was 7 or 8 years ago. Can someone gain that much bulk in that amount of time? I don't think so. He had no chest at all, and his arms couldn't have been more than 19" (he stands 6'5", doesn't he?)....

Scott Steiner, I don't think anyone doubts. I've got some pics of him wrestling as one of the Steiner Brothers.... he just looks like a normal guy. I mean, he was pretty solid but he just blew up out of nowhere.
 
Silverback316 said:
All I am saying is it is very possible to have Brock's body naturally. Triple H is of a lot more vascular than Brock also so that is why I said he may or may not be natural. I am sure Brock does juice, but my point was that you can look like that naturally. Also even though wrestlers travel a lot and get little sleep they can still eat good if they wanted. How hard is it to bring meal replacements with you in a bag with a shaker bottle. If I am fortunate to get into the WWE someday I know that is what I would do so I don't see why they couldn't do it. They also get to train everyday as well so while they do travel a lot they still get their workouts in. I am 6'1'' and 250 right now at about 8 % bf and 21 years old and I know for a fact I could look like Brock within a year or two of training naturally. I know what is up with these guys I just get sick when everyone thinks everyone juices. Kurt Angle is 6'1'' or so and weighs around 235 lbs. Now he can easily maintain that weight naturally and I personally would like to think that he is.

If your 6' 1, 250 and 8%, you should seriously consider a career as a pro BBer. Hell Steiners stats are 6' 2" 270, you almost as big as BPP!! And you think you can gain another 45lbs (on top of that 250) in another year..naturally??? Holy crap dude, you must have the greatest genetics ever!!! Shit man, ronnie coleman is 5' 11" and is about 300 in the off season, so you mean to tell me, your gonna be near Ronnies size in a year or two? Bro, time to hit the pro circuit. Imagine how huge youd be if you actually did juice, youd blow ronnie out of the water!
 
DanielBishop said:
This thread inspired me to blow the dust off my pile of old WWF magazines.... I've found a few pics of Triple H (or Hunter Hearst Helmsley, as he was known) when he first debuted.... of course that was 7 or 8 years ago. Can someone gain that much bulk in that amount of time? I don't think so. .

According to Silverback, you can EASILY gain 45lbs in a year or so naturally!
 
Silverback316 said:
Kurt Angle is 6'1'' or so and weighs around 235 lbs. Now he can easily maintain that weight naturally and I personally would like to think that he is.

You dont have to have a juicers body to be on juice. Bonds isnt Ronnie Coleman, andd we all know hes juicin. Canseco isnt a monster (big guy, but not a monster) and he admits to juicing.

Kurt Angle came in the WWF looking very natural. Now adays he looks bloated as fuck (look at his fucking face), and his back has all sorts of Acne. Angle is juicin big time.
 
Silverback316 said:
They also get to train everyday as well so while they do travel a lot they still get their workouts in.

You missed my point. My point wasnt whether they get to hit the gym or not, my point was that they DO hit the gym, ad they DO hit cardio and they DO hit wrestling workouts, they are on the road alot, get little to no sleep (Ive heard several times over that these guys get on average of 5 hours of sleep a night during the week).

Leading a lifestyle like that and still being able to maintain a good amoutn of muscle, naturally? Come on bro, get real. Id love to see you take on a travel, workout and sleep schedule like them, and see you stay at your 250, naturally. Then again you are the guy who said you can easily gain 45lbs (on a frame thats already carrying 250lbs) in a year easily, so maybe some genetic freak like yourself could keep that kind of size.
 
We all know that a lot of the WWE Superstars use, but really,who cares. They train hard, they train heavy, they take some pretty nasty ass bumps weekly and their still back almost every week to do it again. Hey, I appreciate whatever they are doing because they keep me tuning in every week. Hard work and lots of dedication and that's why they are where they are.
 
if you ever see a tape of angle training for the olympics, hes about half again as big as he is now. tremendous lats.

scott steiner blew out both biceps tendons in japan yeas ago. instead of a tendon, he has a cable now. they also had to reshape both biceps due to the damage that was sustained. that aint synthol guys.
 
This thread is great. the fact is its undebatable.
I really question the fact as to whether you could get Brocks size naturally, sometimes his pec straitions are incredible. now here is a scary thought, if Brock is natural just thing what he could do with juice. Hed make Gunter Schlierkamp look like a small pencil necked wimp!
 
hitmeoff said:


You missed my point. My point wasnt whether they get to hit the gym or not, my point was that they DO hit the gym, ad they DO hit cardio and they DO hit wrestling workouts, they are on the road alot, get little to no sleep (Ive heard several times over that these guys get on average of 5 hours of sleep a night during the week).

Leading a lifestyle like that and still being able to maintain a good amoutn of muscle, naturally? Come on bro, get real. Id love to see you take on a travel, workout and sleep schedule like them, and see you stay at your 250, naturally. Then again you are the guy who said you can easily gain 45lbs (on a frame thats already carrying 250lbs) in a year easily, so maybe some genetic freak like yourself could keep that kind of size.
Bro I did not say I could gain 45 lbs in one year. I do think I could gain that though in 2 years. I do have great genetics and if you saw me you wouldn't question me about it. I have done one cycle before and went from 218 lbs to about 265 lbs in a little over 12 weeks and I kept most of it. I went from 180 lbs to 235 lbs naturally in about 8 months before cutting down and doing my first cycle. I have decided to just do it without gear until I come to a halt, but I don't see that happening anytime soon. I know you don't believe me and I don't expect you to because so many people lie on these boards, but if you saw me you would know I am telling the truth. There are plenty of people who look better than me, but I don't assume they are on gear if they do. Anyways I know pro wrestlers juice, but not all of them do.
 
Silverback316 said:
Bro I did not say I could gain 45 lbs in one year. I do think I could gain that though in 2 years. I do have great genetics and if you saw me you wouldn't question me about it. I have done one cycle before and went from 218 lbs to about 265 lbs in a little over 12 weeks and I kept most of it. I went from 180 lbs to 235 lbs naturally in about 8 months before cutting down and doing my first cycle. I have decided to just do it without gear until I come to a halt, but I don't see that happening anytime soon. I know you don't believe me and I don't expect you to because so many people lie on these boards, but if you saw me you would know I am telling the truth. There are plenty of people who look better than me, but I don't assume they are on gear if they do. Anyways I know pro wrestlers juice, but not all of them do.

Bro, Im sure you have great genetics, and if you are telling the truth, then I seriously mean what I said about persuing a career as a pro. I dont know many people that are you height, your weight and in your condition that could have done it naturally, not even the old timers were that big, so if your on the level here, then your something real special.

Anyway, peace out bro, good talking to you.
 
Sinistar said:
if you ever see a tape of angle training for the olympics, hes about half again as big as he is now. tremendous lats.


This is a good point......
The reason he was much smaller then was because HE WAS AN OLYMPIC WRESTLER ! ..not a pro wrestler back then. Amature wrestlers at that level strive to keep weight down, not looking for a pro wrestler body at all. I have seen him in the off season just a month after the Nationals and he was much, much bigger...and had a very bloated face. They are tested extreamly often..prior, during trials, and even more so once they earn a berth.
Now, I can prove nothing, just I have seen him look much like this in the past.
 
I am a pro wrestler for the last years and have been around the big names and spent time with them. Most of them are very open about their drug use both performance enhancing and recreational. Alot the guys are hooked on pain killers or use weed to ease their pain. I know while I was doing the hardcore stuff ,I went from 800mg motrin daily to using Vicodins just so I could funtion. For performance/appearance they primarily use GH. Most of them get it prescribed leagally via these health/age centers so they can travel and not worry about getting busted. The really huge guys use test along with GH while the smaller leaner guys take primobolan and deca with the GH. They usually inject where they live and do not take it with them on the road to avoid getting popped for juice while on the road. Most of them say they stay away from test since it tends to bloat them. McMahon likes leaner wrestlers so they try to cycle the lighter anabolics but stay on GH year round. Most of them barely have the time to eat and get a good workout in between traveling to the shows, personal appearances, and interviews etc prior to that nights show. If the next show is under a certain mileage range they are required to drive otherwise they fly so their time is really limited. Do they use? Hell yes.
 
I was watching Triple H's The Game DVD last night and I forgot how big he got over the nine months that he was off with his torn quad. Holy shit, I wonder how much weight he gained during that lay off....freakin huge! I'm pumped about Raw next week here in Toronto. Raw Monday, Smackdown Tuesday!
 
lmao heavywear. i saw a anti leach thing like that but the image was a guy with his dick in another doods ass! he posted it several times in his sig befor he found out.
 
Silverback316 said:
Hell it seems to me that the majority of you think that if someone has any kind of muscle what so ever that they must be on something. I am not going to say I know for a fact that someone is juicing unless I know for sure. Of course guys like HHH and Scott Steiner are as is a lot of others, but I think some of you on here have self esteem issues and like to say someone is juicing to justify your actions. It is fucking possible to gain muscle naturally by working hard, eating right, and having good genetics so don't act like juicing is the only fucking way to get that way.

Here it is in a nutshell:
Anybody bigger than me is on steroids;
Anybody more cut than me is anorexic;
Anybody better looking than me is gay;
Anybody smarter than me is a nerd;
Anybody my age who looks younger than me had plastic surgery.
:D :D :D
 
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