Wtf !

[Bam Bam]

When you start leveling off is when you know you've reached your peak. When you cant get over your current bench and squat max. When your weight stabilizws out for 6 months. The perfect newbie cycle IMO.............
200 cyp or enanethate for 8 weeks
200 eq for 10 weeks.

Like Quad, I used 250 of sust a week and for only 6 weeks on my first cycle and gained over 20lbs. You seem to have good genetics like me and quad so I think you will have great gains off of my proposed cycle.


As far as babbabuee, yes, I think that is way to much for a second timer. You should try to stay around 500 for your second cycle. How many mgs did you use on your first. Also, I dont agree with using d-bol on a first cycle. BamBam

 

[DaddyX]

brotheriron agree with u totally, some people don"t like change or are to close minded to try something new. post back would like to know what type of training you prefer[sets,reps,etc.]

im not closed minded about new approaches to things or anything. im just saying 10-14 days of deca ? really thats just a waste of time. if it works for him some magical when then hey, thats great, i wish him luck

 

[brotheriron]

I do what works for me. Sets are about 3-7 hard sets per muscle group, depends on which muscle. Reps are between 8 and 12, but often go lower on quads, do sets of 5 reps for squats. Seems to work. Then again ive always been a good squater. Train 4 times per week. nothing out of the ordinary. Just eat well and get good advice about the pharmacology. Its not brain surgery! Do what works, not what works for everyone else. Dont get too hung up about the technical side if your a newbie, find what works for you. Then stick to it. When you get more advanced then you may need to change things. diet is number 1, training number 2 and then drugs, not the other way around!
Bro

 

[DaddyX]

I do what works for me

im aware of that bro. You know magic, deca works great for 10-14 days for you

 

[poantrex]

Hey my friend wants to do 1 gram of sustanon per day as a first cycle, he is 6'1' 140 lbs is this too much? Please let me know thx

 

[Deleted member 33117]

Damn, I feel bad about being called a 200 ibs bloke who knows nothing. I weighed exactally 200 ibs the day I took the photo in my avatar. Anyway, I made unbelievable gains on 250 mg of test/200 mg deca as a newbie. I've still got stretch marks from that cycle.

 

[brotheriron]

Maybe people misunderstood my post. I didnt mean every 200lbs bloke knows nothing. I just said i dont trust the advice from a 200lbs guy on this board, who i cant be sure of. Who would you trust, a 320lbs pro or a guy you've never seen on the internet?

It wasnt a dig at people who are 200lbs. A good friend of mine competes at 200lbs, and i wouldnt like to stand next to him on stage even if i were 300lbs. Then again he's only 5'4.

But you get my point, my advice comes person to person, then i may check on a board like this to get another perspective. But dont believe everthing you hear on the net.

Oh, poantrex, tell your mate yeah 1g of sus a day is a good first cycle. If he really wants to, or you could just read this fuckin post.

Bro

 

[Quadsweep]

Maybe people misunderstood my post. I didnt mean every 200lbs bloke knows nothing. I just said i dont trust the advice from a 200lbs guy on this board, who i cant be sure of. Who would you trust, a 320lbs pro or a guy you've never seen on the internet?

It wasnt a dig at people who are 200lbs. A good friend of mine competes at 200lbs, and i wouldnt like to stand next to him on stage even if i were 300lbs. Then again he's only 5'4.

But you get my point, my advice comes person to person, then i may check on a board like this to get another perspective. But dont believe everthing you hear on the net.

Oh, poantrex, tell your mate yeah 1g of sus a day is a good first cycle. If he really wants to, or you could just read this fuckin post.

Bro

Lee preist is just over 200lbs on stage..how about Lee Lebrada or Shawn Ray. I know where you are coming from on this but I do disagree about trusting a pro. I know soem that are none to smart and they have good trainers and diet people working for them. I disagree about 1G test on a first cycle. 1/2 that would do fine. I did 1/4 that and gained 27# and kept 20...with no HCG Clomid or anything.

Quad

 

[brotheriron]

You being serious quad? the guy asked about a 1g test PER DAY for first cycle, i was taking the piss. I dont believe 1g a week is right for a newbie, nevermind a day!

I wouldnt trust a pro, only because hes a friend, not just because he's a pro that i trust him. But i do trust my friends more than people i dont know, especially when youve never seen them, that was my point.

I dont doubt that there are some very well informed people on this board, thats obvious in some threads, but there also happens to be a lot of guys that will tell you something without any thought or reason behind it. Just saying you've got to be careful who you listen to, at the end of the day mistakes can cost lives.

Bro

 

[poantrex]

Ok now he wants to know if he should add 150mg anadrol a day for the first 2 weeks only is this enough? Or should he up it more.

Why is 1 gram a day not good brother, should it be more/