WTF!!! nips itchin' 4 weeks after cycle

[decem]

thanks a ton for your help and replies guys.. i'm still at a loss.. tried calling this a.m. for doc appt and no openings available.. i'm gonna wean myself off the depakote over the next four days..

i also have 40mg of arimi coming.. but then i don't know how much it's gonna help seeing as i'm popping up to 100mg of nolvs a day now and still have the itch/soreness.. i think i'm going to just stop the nolvs altogether (as it obviously aint frickin helping).. and i may or may not take the arimi when it comes in.

hey OVERRX & GOLFER18 - what type of cycle did you guys come off of and at what point after the cycle did your nips start fucking with you?

tx, you're right bro.. i'm HEEELLLLLAAAA gyno prone.. i've must have mutant boobies.. .. but what do you think about the next one - starting jan 14th - of fina/winny/eq - do you think it'll give me any problems?

and thnx for the recommendation on the chaste berry.. i'll pick some up today..

the one thing that's keeping me from totally freaking out here is.. i know it'll go away in a year's time.. as long as it doesn't get that bad.. and now the only problem is that i'll have to keep a fucking shirt on over the damn summer

 

[overrx]

fina 75 mg ed/ test 250 week/ winny 100 mg ed / 1mg arimidex ed...stil getting gyno :-(

 

[Golfer18--old]

Fina/Anavar/Winstrol. I started getting it around the 4th post week. I am still taking nolva and armidex.

 

[Audio8]

Get some RU-486 and hit up a nice Fina/Winny/EQ cycle.

 

[decem]

thanks guys.. i went to the doc.. told i thought it was from the meds (legal ones) that i started 4.5 weeks ago. she told me to discontinue the meds and then gave me a script to go to the lab and get a liver function test and estrogen/progesterone ratio done.. only problem is that the lab had never heard of the est./prog. ratio test.. and it was on the same script as the other test.. so they wouldn't draw it.. and now i have to wait until wednesday to the lab work done.

i'm also kinda sceered to be doing another cycle.. i'm afraid that my titties are in a compromised state as it is.. and any more will just fuck them up beyond all belief.. so i'm planning on training natural for 4-6 months and see how much the gyno goes away.. and then hittin up the cycle..

oh shit.. hey golfer and overrx.. what type of winny are you using? dim sum's?? cause that's what i was using.. do you think there's any connection??

 

[decem]

well.. i found one substance that takes the pain and itching away and actual made my tits look perfectly normal.. and i bet you'll never guess what it was..

ectasy..

no shit.. i rolled the other night and for about 16-18 hours afterward i had no itching and no pain and no puffiness whatsoever..

i don't know what the connection is..

the arimidex and nolvadex barely make a dent in the pain and puffiness.. i'm out of nolvs now and have about 36mg of arimi left.. which i don't know if i want to waste on my tits or not.. since it doesn't seem to help all that much..

the pain has started to subside somewhat.. not totally. just about half as much pain, puffiness, and itching as i had about 3 days ago..

oh yeah.. i'm also weaning myself of the depakote as well.. to see if it was having some type of effect on my liver and it's conversion of androgen to estrogen.. i have only today left at 1/3 of the dose and then i'm off for good..

if anyone has ANY input whatsoever.. i'd love to hear it..

thanks

 

[macrophage69alpha]

MDMA typically ELEVATES PROLACTIN.. which is why it can cause gyno... However, if you already have elevated Prolactin levels is may act to suppress them...


Note- liver is very important in the release of co-factors (growth factors) that tend to increase the amount of hard tissue. Use Silymarin during cycle..

vitex.. this will also suppress prolactin and may increase LH but what dose ???

selegine hcl- is a mao-b inhibitor-- it will increase dopamine concentrations in the brain which decreases prolactin and increases LH

glad that there is recession.. but it may return.. this often happens

 

[decem]

thanks macro.. but i'm still at a loss.. so you think it's prolactin?? or the liver?

i was on the depakote at 750mg ed for 5 weeks.. and am now down to 250mg.. i'm off it tomorrow.. the depakote does have an effect on the liver.. it's even caused some deaths due to hepatic failure.. adding on to it's hepatic complications... i had taken winny for 5 weeks before i started it.. so it could be my liver..

i have been taking milk thistle at 600mg or so ed for the past two weeks..

in the one study that panerai posted.. it states that gyno can be caused by a jacked up lh:test ratio.. but which one would have to be elevated to make it cause the gyno.. lh?

i haven't had a chance to get the vitex yet.. but if it's still going after tomorrow.. i'll buy some and take a ton of it..

 

[Jeff_rys]

Decem you take a closer look at the nipple area

in my opinion (and i hope i am right), nipples can be itchie (mine are almost all the time i am on) but shrinking. If that is the case gyno should not break out. At least it didn't for the past 3 years for me.
Only when your nipple area enlarges and it seems something is pushing them out from the inside, then is the time to worry;

But again it is not because it is like that for me, the past 3 years, that this is correct.

You know the saying "something is proven right, until proven wrong".

 

[Tha One CrumCake]

Get on some Yohimburn, right now. And as you sexually Rub it on your nipples think about how much of a Nut you'll feel like, if it actually works and it STOPS your itchy nipples.

Then after 3 weeks of Use, come back here and post a thread titled: YOHIMBURN WORKS!!, Then a week later Edit the title to: "Oh my GOD! YOHIMBURN WORKS FOR ITCHY NIPPLES TOO!".

That is all.

Good day and Good Luck.

Kind Regards,
Crumcake.