WTF happened here? Is this shit even real?

[Smokescreen]

After being on gear for quite sometime. This late past late November I decided to come off of gear for a while. I only took HCG/Clomid for a while. And then took 2 dbols every morning for about 2 months. I thought I was going to lose my mind. But I did not lose my sense of well being at all. I lost only a little bit of strength. And I did lose 12lbs. I still went to train. But not as often as I did before.

I decided to get my bloodwork done a couple of weeks ago and I did not like what I saw. My lipids were all fucked up! And worse...my test level was at fucking 90! When the range is between 250-1000! So what the fuck happened here? I was always told ( even by Ulter ) that 2 dbols equals out to around 7mgs of Test. If that was the case...why did my test level show up at 90!?

 

[macrophage69alpha]

dbol can do that to your lipids.
dbol will not show up as test on an assay.

 

[Smokescreen]

dbol can do that to your lipids.
dbol will not show up as test on an assay.

Ok, so what your saying is that even though the paperworkd said I had test of 90. In reality I really did have some level of Test in my body?

 

[hanibal]

you're too young to be on as much as you are IMO. HRT therapy is for the older gents. give your body a break. just my 2 cents. what were you on before that fucked your lipids?

 

[kbrkbr]

Ok, so what your saying is that even though the paperworkd said I had test of 90. In reality I really did have some level of Test in my body?

No, i think what he means is that your tests measure levels of testosterone created endogenously by your body, and that those levels are still low, regardless of how much dbol you have in your body. Your HPTA has not recovered, probably because of the dbol.

I know a lot of respected bros like Ulter say that low dose dbol first thing in the morning will not suppress you and I can offer no studies to argue that point. All I can say for certain is that low dose ANYTHING suprressed me. I have to be off completely for my hpta to recover.

 

[Quadsweep]

dbol can do that to your lipids.
dbol will not show up as test on an assay.

Exactly what I was thinking. And it would be enough to upset an already compromised HPTA. So basically you are shut down still.

Quad

 

[macrophage69alpha]

AM dianabol works for some, but it is suppressive. Though, and this is a vast oversimplication, while being suppressive it actually primes LH response, so when your do come off of it (as long as HPGA is not fully suppressed- which low doses should generally not do) you should see a resurgence in test levels.

when did you have your test levels taken? time of day. if you had taken it in the morning before AM dbol, you should see a higher #.

 

[macrophage69alpha]

as a note- because of variances in HPGA response as well as metabolism of dbol am somewhat on the fence with respect to this particular reccomendation. It certainly benefits some more than others and may be a poor choice for some as well.

 

[Smokescreen]

you're too young to be on as much as you are IMO. HRT therapy is for the older gents. give your body a break. just my 2 cents. what were you on before that fucked your lipids?

I'm 30 and already on HRT.

 

[Smokescreen]

AM dianabol works for some, but it is suppressive. Though, and this is a vast oversimplication, while being suppressive it actually primes LH response, so when your do come off of it (as long as HPGA is not fully suppressed- which low doses should generally not do) you should see a resurgence in test levels.

when did you have your test levels taken? time of day. if you had taken it in the morning before AM dbol, you should see a higher #.

I had bloodwork done at around noon. Regardless...and sorry to say. But I still do not understand what you meant at first. How can a drug (dbol) not show up as test on my test bloodwork? I know when i was on Primo and EQ a long time ago. My test levels came back saying 3000!!!