Women, if a man did not pay the tab on the first date, would you go on a second date?

[javaguru]

Re: Women, if a man did not pay the tab on the first date, would you go on a second d

I like going to Buffalo's. Thats a great date!

I was on a first name basis with the waitress at BW3 up the street, three dates with different women in five days.....lollolloll

 

[heatherrae]

Big surprise HR dates complete douche bags, given how amazing of a woman she is. Stable, emotionally intelligent, totally confident.

lol











and then













zzzzzzz

I guess I'm not lucky enough to get complete winners like you on every first date.

If I did, maybe my "pussy would run to you" and you would "unsheath the beast", Shaggy.

 

[patsfan1379]

I guess I'm not lucky enough to get complete winners like you on every first date.

If I did, maybe my "pussy would run to you" and you would "unsheath the beast", Shaggy.

I hope KB cums in your eye and it dries shut.

 

[foreigngirl]

Re: Women, if a man did not pay the tab on the first date, would you go on a second d

I guess I'm not lucky enough to get complete winners like you on every first date.

If I did, maybe my "pussy would run to you" and you would "unsheath the beast", Shaggy.

you seriously read his posts? Just ignore him the way he ignores you. Your reply to his post is gonna go unanswered cuz he cant read you anyways....

 

[heatherrae]

I hope KB cums in your eye and it dries shut.

No danger of that "beast" of his getting anywhere near me. I don't date little douchebags like him.

 

[velvett]

Ruin this thread and i'll delete all the more recent posts.
I mean seriously.

Seriously?!

 

[KillahBee]

Correct, HR, I do get PRIME pussy. That's cause I have a healthy self image.

Maybe you should PM me for some advice.

 

[javaguru]

Re: Women, if a man did not pay the tab on the first date, would you go on a second d

I didn't even return his phone calls after that.

That's a dick move....you could have at least given him the bullshit excuse, it's not you, it's me....lollolll..

 

[cindylou]

Re: Women, if a man did not pay the tab on the first date, would you go on a second d

You've never really been out on the town, have you?

Yeah what makes you say that? Because I like a casual place that serves beer??? LOL.

I would not be offended if that was a first date. IT would be kinda fun and casual no? And cheap.

Please dont tell me you like those places like Blonde!

 

[digimon7068]

if the dude doesn't pick up the tab, it ain't a "date". . .

 

[Bikini Mod]

I'm not a big believer in marriage (beyuond it being a legal contract) right now but i know we've been closer and together much longer than you and your husband and besides that really isn't an issue. My point (which you already realised before you posted your non-sensical reply) was that i'd appreciate a woman way more if she didn't EXPECT to be paid for...and actually i think most men would appreciate that more if the woman had the decency.

...and yes it is a social rule because many women in society seem to hold it. Your views are nothing knew. The fact that many women think their man is 'immasculated' (as you put it) if they don't automatically pay for their date is just laughable.

Nope sorry. You might find it funny. That is your right. But that doesn't mean that everyone else shares this view. They may be laughing though it may not necessarily be that they are laughing with you. Not a personal attack, just sayin is all. All depends upon your point of view.

I am trying to understand why SOME men seem so intent on grabbing on tightly to that change in their pockets as if that were a REAL MEASURE of his manhood. <---- any man who thinks this way, I suppose doesn't need ME to immasculate him as he's clearly already done it to himself.

For goodness sakes, how much could a meal at a mid-priced restaurant cost? (I always chose very fine restaurants once I raised my standards in who I would allow to date me. If the company wasn't going to be all that great, at least my pallate wasn't offended.) 100$ is THAT big a deal?

DAYUM, if a man is THAT intent on holding onto a few dollars then chances are he wouldn't know how to open my door, help me into my seat, discuss the menu w/me intelligently and order properly nor would he likely know the other social rules that I demand from a perspective partner. Am I uncompromising on something that might *seem* superfluous? Perhaps, but every man that would choose to pursue me knew all of these things upfront. If he didn't, he quickly realized and either swam or sank like a freaking 200# cement block.

I am very old school when it comes to these things, but luckily for My Old Grump - I did fuck on the first date. So one might say that I am a healthy balanced mix of old world and new?

 

[jd_uk]

BM...It seems obvious to me that you are one of the only people here capable of talking about money as if it is a measure of manhood. If a man doesn't appreciate a woman who expects to be paid for, do you really derive that he therefore uses money as a measure of his masculinity?

On a side note, I don't really rate making a lot of money as a priority but for the women who do see money as so important...are you not capable of going and making it yourself? It really isn't difficult if you put some effort in. There's not a lot more pathetic than a woman who won't put the effort in to make some money (instead going and finding a man to do it for her) if she values it so highly.

 

[Bikini Mod]

BM...It seems obvious to me that you are one of the only people here capable of talking about money as if it is a measure of manhood. If a man doesn't appreciate a woman who expects to be paid for, do you really derive that he therefore uses money as a measure of his masculinity?

On a side note, I don't really rate making a lot of money as a priority but for the women who do see money as so important...are you not capable of going and making it yourself? It really isn't difficult if you put some effort in. There's not a lot more pathetic than a woman who won't put the effort in to make some money (instead going and finding a man to do it for her) if she values it so highly.

Actually if you re read my posts - money has NOTHING to do with a man's measure.

I supported myself, four children and a gaggle of lawyers fighting for the right to maintain a SEMBLENCE of custody nearly 6+ years BY MYSELF. Yea I got up at 3:30AM to be at work by 5AM with four children in tow for the whopping salary of 8$ p/hr till 9AM then the pay got dropped to 7 dollars. I paid my bills - ME.

So what were you saying again?

 

[KillahBee]

Self glorification at its best here folks.

Woe is me syndrome hard at work!

 

[heatherrae]

Re: Women, if a man did not pay the tab on the first date, would you go on a second d

Yeah what makes you say that? Because I like a casual place that serves beer??? LOL.

I would not be offended if that was a first date. IT would be kinda fun and casual no? And cheap.

Please dont tell me you like those places like Blonde!

I like to hit up Wild Wings on a date sometimes. Chicken wings = good. lol.

 

[Bikini Mod]

Self glorification at its best here folks.

Woe is me syndrome hard at work!

Woe is me? Obviously you were not talking to me.

I am very happily married to a wonderful man and WE earn a great deal of money together.

 

[alien amp pharm]

Re: Women, if a man did not pay the tab on the first date, would you go on a second d

Self glorification at its best here folks.

Woe is me syndrome hard at work!

lmao

so true

 

[jackangel]

i am not a hindu. only by background.

there are only a few considerations i give to food:

1. does it taste good?
2. how much protein/fats/carbs/calories does it have?
3. will it adversely affect my health/well-being (i often ignore this one) ?

 

[Bikini Mod]

Re: Women, if a man did not pay the tab on the first date, would you go on a second d

I like to hit up Wild Wings on a date sometimes. Chicken wings = good. lol.

You know what I find to be MOST amusing about this thread?

If a woman states a preference for a casual date then she = easy or stupid/low class.

If a woman states a preference for more formal dating situations then she is arrogant and a gold digger/mooch.

LMFAO

Methinks *some* of the men should just save everybody trouble and keep their hands in their pockets where they can hold tight to their pennies and play with themselves in every social setting and not worry too much about offending anyone's delicate sensibilities.

 

[cindylou]

Re: Women, if a man did not pay the tab on the first date, would you go on a second d

You know what I find to be MOST amusing about this thread?

If a woman states a preference for a casual date then she = easy or stupid/low class.

If a woman states a preference for more formal dating situations then she is arrogant and a gold digger/mooch.

LMFAO

Methinks *some* of the men should just save everybody trouble and keep their hands in their pockets where they can hold tight to their pennies and play with themselves in every social setting and not worry too much about offending anyone's delicate sensibilities.

I guess since I've been to BWW and ENJOYED it at the same time ; I've never been anywhere except TGI Fridays and Pizza Hut and have never experienced nightlife.

 

[heatherrae]

Self glorification at its best here folks.

Woe is me syndrome hard at work!

You're going to speak about self glorification after the infamous "sheath the beast" post?

You probably shouldn't go there.

 

[digimon7068]

Re: Women, if a man did not pay the tab on the first date, would you go on a second d

You know what I find to be MOST amusing about this thread?

If a woman states a preference for a casual date then she = easy or stupid/low class.

If a woman states a preference for more formal dating situations then she is arrogant and a gold digger/mooch.

LMFAO

Methinks *some* of the men should just save everybody trouble and keep their hands in their pockets where they can hold tight to their pennies and play with themselves in every social setting and not worry too much about offending anyone's delicate sensibilities.

my wife and i had a hell of a lot more "wings and beers" dates than lobster dates. . .she hates to see hard-earned money spent on shit like that. . .

 

[heatherrae]

Re: Women, if a man did not pay the tab on the first date, would you go on a second d

You know what I find to be MOST amusing about this thread?

If a woman states a preference for a casual date then she = easy or stupid/low class.

If a woman states a preference for more formal dating situations then she is arrogant and a gold digger/mooch.

LMFAO

Methinks *some* of the men should just save everybody trouble and keep their hands in their pockets where they can hold tight to their pennies and play with themselves in every social setting and not worry too much about offending anyone's delicate sensibilities.

It doesn't matter what a woman says on ef, the boys will come out of the woodwork to criticize no matter what it is.

My bet is that 99% of these guys pay on the first date. They just want to bitch about something.

 

[javaguru]

Re: Women, if a man did not pay the tab on the first date, would you go on a second d

You know what I find to be MOST amusing about this thread?

If a woman states a preference for a casual date then she = easy or stupid/low class.

If a woman states a preference for more formal dating situations then she is arrogant and a gold digger/mooch.

LMFAO

Methinks *some* of the men should just save everybody trouble and keep their hands in their pockets where they can hold tight to their pennies and play with themselves in every social setting and not worry too much about offending anyone's delicate sensibilities.

I prefer low maintenance, I look for it. Pretentious people annoy me...I'm a simple country boy.

 

[heatherrae]

Re: Women, if a man did not pay the tab on the first date, would you go on a second d

I prefer low maintenance, I look for it. Pretentious people annoy me...I'm a simple country boy.

So, you never want to dress up and go to a nice dinner with wine and fine food? Ever?

I like both the casual and the nice ones.

Just because I like good food and a night out on the town doesn't make me pretentious.

 

[Bikini Mod]

Re: Women, if a man did not pay the tab on the first date, would you go on a second d

my wife and i had a hell of a lot more "wings and beers" dates than lobster dates. . .she hates to see hard-earned money spent on shit like that. . .

Wings make me sick (my stomach can't take that type of fare anymore) and I dont like beer OR lobsters.

Both my husband and I LOVE great food (He was trained as a chef) so if the food isn't better than we could cook ourselves, then we stay home and cook. But if we go out and we pay, then it had better be GREAT.

I hate to overpay for ANYTHING but if the food and drink are wonderful then I dont mind dropping a few dollars for excellent service and treating myself to something that I can not get at home.

 

[Bikini Mod]

Re: Women, if a man did not pay the tab on the first date, would you go on a second d

I prefer low maintenance, I look for it. Pretentious people annoy me...I'm a simple country boy.

As they do me.

My husband and I can go ANYWHERE with ANY ONE and feel comfortable.

I like to get dressed up and doing nice things on occasion and other times we are chilling with bikers....

I HATE people at fancy places that kiss ass because they *think* they will get a bigger tip. <----THAT SUCKS.

 

[jd_uk]

Actually if you re read my posts - money has NOTHING to do with a man's measure.

I supported myself, four children and a gaggle of lawyers fighting for the right to maintain a SEMBLENCE of custody nearly 6+ years BY MYSELF. Yea I got up at 3:30AM to be at work by 5AM with four children in tow for the whopping salary of 8$ p/hr till 9AM then the pay got dropped to 7 dollars. I paid my bills - ME.

So what were you saying again?

Then why keep going on about money and masculinity at the same time? You're the only one mentioning it. Sorry BM but you aren't very convincing. I remember you and your husband telling me how you believed that being successful WAS being wealthy. Now unless you've drastically changed your views...

 

[velvett]

Re: Women, if a man did not pay the tab on the first date, would you go on a second d

I prefer low maintenance, I look for it. Pretentious people annoy me...I'm a simple country boy.

Hmmm see that could be complicated.

Low maintenance is not necessarily the direct opposite of "high maintenance" - you may very well get a girl that sleeps til two in the afternoon, showers every few days and sniffs her clothes to see if they're clean enough to keep wearing.

If you think that the opposite of "country" is pretentious - I assure you - you have not truly experience pretentious.

I like and I live a very simple life and yet on occasion I like to get dressed up and socialize with new people, people I don't know and probably will only ever run into again at another function. I am happy at a beach BBQ or a black tie cocktail party or dinner (I am most happy at home in my jammies surrounded by my books and magazines) - it's whether or not I feel like being around people or not that will determine my going not the type of function.

You can be and do both.

I think everyone needs to think out of their confined ways of thinking.

1 + 1 doesn't always equal 2

And black in never the opposite of white.

 

[patsfan1379]

Re: Women, if a man did not pay the tab on the first date, would you go on a second d

Hmmm see that could be complicated.

Low maintenance is not necessarily the direct opposite of "high maintenance" - you may very well get a girl that sleeps til two in the afternoon, showers every few days and sniffs her clothes to see if they're clean enough to keep wearing.

If you think that the opposite of "country" is pretentious - I assure you - you have not truly experience pretentious.

I like and I live a very simple life and yet on occasion I like to get dressed up and socialize with new people, people I don't know and probably will only ever run into again at another function. I am happy at a beach BBQ or a black tie cocktail party or dinner (I am most happy at home in my jammies surrounded by my books and magazines) - it's whether or not I feel like being around people or not that will determine my going not the type of function.

You can be and do both.

I think everyone needs to think out of their confined ways of thinking.

1 + 1 doesn't always equal 2

And black in never the opposite of white.

OMG marry me.

 

[Faizakafez]

i think we all know the soultion to the females problems here

 

[heatherrae]

i think we all know the soultion to the females problems here

Kitty licking and ice cream!!!


Oh, maybe that is just me.

 

[Faizakafez]

Kitty licking and ice cream!!!


Oh, maybe that is just me.

possible

or a healthy dose of me

 

[alien amp pharm]

Re: Women, if a man did not pay the tab on the first date, would you go on a second d

OMG marry me.

sorry, she's not into chicks.

 

[heatherrae]

possible

or a healthy dose of me

 

[patsfan1379]

Re: Women, if a man did not pay the tab on the first date, would you go on a second d

sorry, she's not into chicks.

I've been playing Wii Tennis on this all weekend...

http://www.samsung.com/us/consumer/detail/detail.do?group=televisions&type=televisions&subtype=lcdtv&model_cd=LNT4053HX/XAA

Just bought it. So sthweet.

 

[alien amp pharm]

Re: Women, if a man did not pay the tab on the first date, would you go on a second d

I've been playing Wii Tennis on this all weekend...

http://www.samsung.com/us/consumer/detail/detail.do?group=televisions&type=televisions&subtype=lcdtv&model_cd=LNT4053HX/XAA

Just bought it. So sthweet.

lol @ Wii tennis. What are you, like 5 yrs old???








(I cannot wait until Mario Galaxy comes out. Also play Resident Evil 4 Wii edition if you haven't already. It's only $30 and is fun fun fun. Nice tv btw. A big screen is a must with video games)

 

[patsfan1379]

Re: Women, if a man did not pay the tab on the first date, would you go on a second d

lol @ Wii tennis. What are you, like 5 yrs old???

(I cannot wait until Mario Galaxy comes out. Also play Resident Evil 4 Wii edition if you haven't already. It's only $30 and is fun fun fun. Nice tv btw. A big screen is a must with video games)

Dude I swear to God I am addicted to Wii tennis. Its amazing. I'm a 1700pt pro and I'm up against 2000pt. pro computer players and they are kicking my ass. My reflexes suck lol.

What other good/fun games are there for the Wii? I played Super Monkey Ball Bonanza one night. That one was cool.

 

[javaguru]

Re: Women, if a man did not pay the tab on the first date, would you go on a second d

Hmmm see that could be complicated.

Low maintenance is not necessarily the direct opposite of "high maintenance" - you may very well get a girl that sleeps til two in the afternoon, showers every few days and sniffs her clothes to see if they're clean enough to keep wearing.

If you think that the opposite of "country" is pretentious - I assure you - you have not truly experience pretentious.

I like and I live a very simple life and yet on occasion I like to get dressed up and socialize with new people, people I don't know and probably will only ever run into again at another function. I am happy at a beach BBQ or a black tie cocktail party or dinner (I am most happy at home in my jammies surrounded by my books and magazines) - it's whether or not I feel like being around people or not that will determine my going not the type of function.

You can be and do both.

I think everyone needs to think out of their confined ways of thinking.

1 + 1 doesn't always equal 2

And black in never the opposite of white.

Let me elaborate a bit more on my likes and dislikes and I'm not saying people who enjoy these thing are pretentious but there seem to be a disproportionate number among their ranks . There were those pretentious people that showed up at church every Sunday when I was growing up.

I'm not materialistic, I'm actually quite a minimalist, and everything I own has a function in my life...nothing decorative at all.I don't enjoy wine tastings, cigar bars, the symphony, or the other "finer things in life" pretentious people like to brag about doing. I prefer a mountain hike to a black tie event. As a matter of fact, I would do just about anything to get out of attending a black tie affair. I've been to restaurants where the cheapest a la carte entree was $50.00 and tasted worse than the $8.00 entree at Jed's. I can't even remember the name of the restaurant but I was told it was a big deal to dine there...

 

[BigRupe]

If I ask the girl out I pay, PERIOD, end of story, but if a girl asks me out and it's been several dates then I expect HER to pay, or offer to pay, or maybe pay the tip.

I notice many women here are looking at the man paying as some sort of "sign" of what kind of man he is.

Well I look at the issue the same way, if a woman ask me out and pays or at least offers then I have MORE respect for her.

I am sure a lot of men here have been used for their money.

I make a lot of money and I have had women attempt to use me. I had one girl once tell me after the second date that her favorite stone was emerald and that her ex bought it for her all the time. She dropped so many hints about "emeralds" being the perfect surprise gift that I felt like buying her one just to get her to stop talking about it.

There was another girl who I dated for about a month or two. All very casual more like a friendship than a boyfriend/girlfriend relationship, no sex what-so-ever and about the 5th date she calls me up to take me out to dinner for my "birthday".

She had made reservations at a nice restaurant "Capital Grill" in DC.

I thought it was very sweet but at the end of the dinner when the check came she just sat on her hands until I picked it up and paid the tab.

It wasn't the "money" but I felt disrespected and used. I could have made so many other plans for my birthday.

I never saw her again.

Again I make a high 6 figure income, but if a girl calls to ask me out, especially after several dates, I expect her to pay some portion of that tab. it shows me she isn't taking advantage of me, that she's showing how IMPORTANT I am to her by paying and so on.

Many of you women who are so concerned about how YOU feel should reverse the roll and see how maybe YOU can make the man feel appreciated and so on.

And ladies it's not the "other" things you do because as a man I also do many "other" things.

Plus those other things like "cooking" and so on. I actually love to cook for dates and I am a very good cook and I honestly can't remember the last time a date cooked for me. It's been years.

In any event paying the tab can also show a MAN the kind of woman you are. One of my favorite girl friends was a CIA employee and she usually paid every 3rd or 4th date. She said "I am taking you out this is my treat".

We dated for about a year until she was transferred over seas.

She was one CLASSY lady. I've never respected a woman more than I did her and I LOVED taking her out and buying things because I FELT cared for and appreciated by her gestures of taking me out and so on.

It's a TWO way street, any relationship is a two way street for all the issues.

 

[javaguru]

Re: Women, if a man did not pay the tab on the first date, would you go on a second d

possible

or a healthy dose of me

Dude, you know HR can't reach her vag to clean it...I wouldn't go down there if I were you.

 

[patsfan1379]

Re: Women, if a man did not pay the tab on the first date, would you go on a second d

Let me elaborate a bit more on my likes and dislikes and I'm not saying people who enjoy these thing are pretentious but there seem to be a disproportionate number among their ranks . There were those pretentious people that showed up at church every Sunday when I was growing up.

I'm not materialistic, I'm actually quite a minimalist, and everything I own has a function in my life...nothing decorative at all.I don't enjoy wine tastings, cigar bars, the symphony, or the other "finer things in life" pretentious people like to brag about doing. I prefer a mountain hike to a black tie event. As a matter of fact, I would do just about anything to get out of attending a black tie affair. I've been to restaurants where the cheapest a la carte entree was $50.00 and tasted worse than the $8.00 entree at Jed's. I can't even remember the name of the restaurant but I was told it was a big deal to dine there...

You're one of those nonconformists aren't you. Like the goth kids, they're all different and stuff....

Except they look like all the other Goth kids....

 

[javaguru]

Re: Women, if a man did not pay the tab on the first date, would you go on a second d

You're one of those nonconformists aren't you. Like the goth kids, they're all different and stuff....

Except they look like all the other Goth kids....

Nope, I've always had my own thing..... Defensive co-captain of the football team and president of the computer club in high school.

 

[heatherrae]

Re: Women, if a man did not pay the tab on the first date, would you go on a second d

Dude, you know HR can't reach her vag to clean it...I wouldn't go down there if I were you.

It's clean! I can't see it, but I can reach it!

 

[patsfan1379]

Re: Women, if a man did not pay the tab on the first date, would you go on a second d

Nope, I've always had my own thing..... Defensive co-captain of the football team and president of the computer club in high school.

I'm just Joshin ya.

 

[Bikini Mod]

Then why keep going on about money and masculinity at the same time? You're the only one mentioning it. Sorry BM but you aren't very convincing. I remember you and your husband telling me how you believed that being successful WAS being wealthy. Now unless you've drastically changed your views...

I was only answering the question posted as honestly as I could. Money is not an accurate measure of a man's worth, as life has a funny way of making it all go *bye-bye* with very little warning. I married my husband when he was at the lowest point in his life - BROKE DICK DOG. He had *ONLY* his smarts, character and kindess to offer me. There was no guarantee that he would ever be able to recover from the unbelievable financial troubles that had befallen him, but he promised me he could and I believed him. We have busted our asses TOGETHER since and we are now on the brink of making an obscene amount of money in a few business ventures. Not only for us but for our families as well.

Would I have married him if I did not believe that he could do it?


HELL NO.

I can and did bust my ass to take care of me, my kids and all the lawyers by myself. Why then, would I need a man? (Therein lies the crux of the issue at hand when speaking of dating. I dont NEED marriage or commitment for sex. I can get sex whenever/wherever I want.)

On the flip side, he knew upfront about my crazy ex, my severe depression brought on because of my children being stolen from me and my severe health issues (read: I wont be very pretty or even all that functional for very much longer).

So then, why did he marry me?

I am still trying to figure that one out. He had any woman he wanted and were it not for MY serious financial issues brought on by my litigious ex and the life he promised for me and my children in addition to his own, he would have recovered much sooner. I suppose he felt that I had something greater to offer than tits and ass, eh?

So you tell me...

I have zero problem stating that for me to consider a perspective mate he needs to have the ability to afford a life for me and my children that I deem proper. Just as I give EVERY man the same lattitude to say that they would reject me based on: my age, my beauty (or lack thereof), my health, my # of children, my baggage (my ex) or if I am too short, wrong color, fake tits, too smart, too high energy... WHATEVER. LMFAO If he dont dig me then he should move the fuck on as there are 50 doods stepping all over each other jumping up and down to gain my attention - even WITH all my short-comings. It is not MY FAULT that not enough women value themselves to see that this is true about THEM TOO.

The bottom line is this: I have never understood why SOME men get so offended by a woman stating that she requires a man to have achieved a certain degree of success but NO WOMAN is *allowed* to get offended if a man states that he wouldn't consider dating a homely woman.

But I am the shallow one?

go figure

I am DISCRIMINATING. If that offends a man (or woman) that is on them.

 

[heatherrae]

Re: Women, if a man did not pay the tab on the first date, would you go on a second d

Nope, I've always had my own thing..... Defensive co-captain of the football team and president of the computer club in high school.

Glory days
Well, they pass you by
Glory days
In a young girls eyes
Glory day-ay-as.

 

[javaguru]

Re: Women, if a man did not pay the tab on the first date, would you go on a second d

Glory days
Well, they pass you by
Glory days
In a young girls eyes
Glory day-ay-as.

Life has only gotten better...lol.

 

[nefertiti]

I usually will throw out some suggestions for first date options to avoid any discomfort there. I remember once a guy asked me if I wanted to go out for steak or italian....I said steak thinking that would be something more casual...and he takes me to the fanciest, most expensive steakhouse in DC

I had a good time and he was a gentleman, but I was a little uncomfortable with someone spending that much on dinner with me when I had only met them a few days beforehand.

 

[Bikini Mod]

I usually will throw out some suggestions for first date options to avoid any discomfort there. I remember once a guy asked me if I wanted to go out for steak or italian....I said steak thinking that would be something more casual...and he takes me to the fanciest, most expensive steakhouse in DC

I had a good time and he was a gentleman, but I was a little uncomfortable with someone spending that much on dinner with me when I had only met them a few days beforehand.

I dont understand the last comment. Why would you feel uncomfortable about this?

 

[heatherrae]

I usually will throw out some suggestions for first date options to avoid any discomfort there. I remember once a guy asked me if I wanted to go out for steak or italian....I said steak thinking that would be something more casual...and he takes me to the fanciest, most expensive steakhouse in DC

I had a good time and he was a gentleman, but I was a little uncomfortable with someone spending that much on dinner with me when I had only met them a few days beforehand.

Why would you feel uncomfortable? He chose the place. Obviously, he liked you and wanted to treat you well.

Do you feel you don't deserve to be treated that well? I don't understand that way of thinking.

 

[nefertiti]

Why would you feel uncomfortable? He chose the place. Obviously, he liked you and wanted to treat you well.

Do you feel you don't deserve to be treated that well? I don't understand that way of thinking.

lol @ you two. don't put words in my mouth. Of course I deserve to be treated well. But, to me, it implied a level of seriousness that didn't really feel natural at that point.

ps - if a guy is going to do nice things for me, it should be because he cares about me and wants to make me happy, not because he's trying to show me how much dollah he's willing to drop to impress me. There are better ways to spend your money.

 

[Phaded]

lol @ the same dudes always arguing with different chicks on this forum..

 

[Sub-Zero]

lol @ you two. don't put words in my mouth. Of course I deserve to be treated well. But, to me, it implied a level of seriousness that didn't really feel natural at that point.

ps - if a guy is going to do nice things for me, it should be because he cares about me and wants to make me happy, not because he's trying to impress me with how much dollah he's willing to drop to impress me. There are better ways to spend your money.

dont worry about those money grubbing idiots. i think you have amazing character and your humility and all that is way more attractive in a personality than those 2 old spoiled brats will ever be.

ill take you to mortons, ruths chris, sam and harrys, or mcdonalds, your choice

 

[blueta2]

If I ask the girl out I pay, PERIOD, end of story, but if a girl asks me out and it's been several dates then I expect HER to pay, or offer to pay, or maybe pay the tip.

I notice many women here are looking at the man paying as some sort of "sign" of what kind of man he is.

Well I look at the issue the same way, if a woman ask me out and pays or at least offers then I have MORE respect for her.

I am sure a lot of men here have been used for their money.

I make a lot of money and I have had women attempt to use me. I had one girl once tell me after the second date that her favorite stone was emerald and that her ex bought it for her all the time. She dropped so many hints about "emeralds" being the perfect surprise gift that I felt like buying her one just to get her to stop talking about it.

There was another girl who I dated for about a month or two. All very casual more like a friendship than a boyfriend/girlfriend relationship, no sex what-so-ever and about the 5th date she calls me up to take me out to dinner for my "birthday".

She had made reservations at a nice restaurant "Capital Grill" in DC.

I thought it was very sweet but at the end of the dinner when the check came she just sat on her hands until I picked it up and paid the tab.

It wasn't the "money" but I felt disrespected and used. I could have made so many other plans for my birthday.

I never saw her again.

Again I make a high 6 figure income, but if a girl calls to ask me out, especially after several dates, I expect her to pay some portion of that tab. it shows me she isn't taking advantage of me, that she's showing how IMPORTANT I am to her by paying and so on.

Many of you women who are so concerned about how YOU feel should reverse the roll and see how maybe YOU can make the man feel appreciated and so on.

And ladies it's not the "other" things you do because as a man I also do many "other" things.

Plus those other things like "cooking" and so on. I actually love to cook for dates and I am a very good cook and I honestly can't remember the last time a date cooked for me. It's been years.

In any event paying the tab can also show a MAN the kind of woman you are. One of my favorite girl friends was a CIA employee and she usually paid every 3rd or 4th date. She said "I am taking you out this is my treat".

We dated for about a year until she was transferred over seas.

She was one CLASSY lady. I've never respected a woman more than I did her and I LOVED taking her out and buying things because I FELT cared for and appreciated by her gestures of taking me out and so on.

It's a TWO way street, any relationship is a two way street for all the issues.

If you've not found a woman that will cook for you on a date, you're finding the wrong women! I love to cook for a date
Also, women will tend to use you if they know you got some cha-ching.
How do they know you have money? Don't say nice car. b/c even poor dudes can drive nice cars

 

[heatherrae]

lol @ you two. don't put words in my mouth. Of course I deserve to be treated well. But, to me, it implied a level of seriousness that didn't really feel natural at that point.

ps - if a guy is going to do nice things for me, it should be because he cares about me and wants to make me happy, not because he's trying to impress me with how much dollah he's willing to drop to impress me. There are better ways to spend your money.

I'm not trying to put words in your mouth. I just didn't understand that.

So, you think that if a guy takes you to a nice restaraunt and the meal is a little pricey, it implies a certain level of seriousness in the relationship? I've never thought of it that way. I also never thought it was bad that they were trying to impress me. I think that is a good thing that they are trying to put their best foot forward. I try to impress them too. I try to dress up, maybe have my hair and nails done that day. I try to be on my best behavior,etc. I think that is just a matter of showing interest in one another. I like it.

Now, if a guy was just being obnoxious and handing the waitress $100 tips and stuff, that would just be ostentatious and pretentious, and I wouldn't like him. However, taking me to a nice place is just nice.

 

[patsfan1379]

lol @ the same dudes always arguing with different chicks on this forum..

Pound for pound I'm stronger than you.

 

[Bikini Mod]

lol @ you two. don't put words in my mouth. Of course I deserve to be treated well. But, to me, it implied a level of seriousness that didn't really feel natural at that point.

ps - if a guy is going to do nice things for me, it should be because he cares about me and wants to make me happy, not because he's trying to show me how much dollah he's willing to drop to impress me. There are better ways to spend your money.

What words did I put into your mouth?

I asked you to explain why you felt uncomfortable. I didn't venture a guess.

 

[Sub-Zero]

I'm not trying to put words in your mouth. I just didn't understand that.

So, you think that if a guy takes you to a nice restaraunt and the meal is a little pricey, it implies a certain level of seriousness in the relationship? I've never thought of it that way. I also never thought it was bad that they were trying to impress me. I think that is a good thing that they are trying to put their best foot forward. I try to impress them too. I try to dress up, maybe have my hair and nails done that day. I try to be on my best behavior,etc. I think that is just a matter of showing interest in one another. I like it.

Now, if a guy was just being obnoxious and handing the waitress $100 tips and stuff, that would just be ostentatious and pretentious, and I wouldn't like him. However, taking me to a nice place is just nice.

to each their own. id rather a girls first impression of me be for my character, personality, and fun-ness to be around. not how much of a high roller i am

 

[Bikini Mod]

dont worry about those money grubbing idiots. i think you have amazing character and your humility and all that is way more attractive in a personality than those 2 old spoiled brats will ever be.

ill take you to mortons, ruths chris, sam and harrys, or mcdonalds, your choice

How am I a *money-grubbing idiot*?

 

[heatherrae]

If I ask the girl out I pay, PERIOD, end of story, but if a girl asks me out and it's been several dates then I expect HER to pay, or offer to pay, or maybe pay the tip.

I notice many women here are looking at the man paying as some sort of "sign" of what kind of man he is.

Well I look at the issue the same way, if a woman ask me out and pays or at least offers then I have MORE respect for her.

I am sure a lot of men here have been used for their money.

I make a lot of money and I have had women attempt to use me. I had one girl once tell me after the second date that her favorite stone was emerald and that her ex bought it for her all the time. She dropped so many hints about "emeralds" being the perfect surprise gift that I felt like buying her one just to get her to stop talking about it.

There was another girl who I dated for about a month or two. All very casual more like a friendship than a boyfriend/girlfriend relationship, no sex what-so-ever and about the 5th date she calls me up to take me out to dinner for my "birthday".

She had made reservations at a nice restaurant "Capital Grill" in DC.

I thought it was very sweet but at the end of the dinner when the check came she just sat on her hands until I picked it up and paid the tab.

It wasn't the "money" but I felt disrespected and used. I could have made so many other plans for my birthday.

I never saw her again.

Again I make a high 6 figure income, but if a girl calls to ask me out, especially after several dates, I expect her to pay some portion of that tab. it shows me she isn't taking advantage of me, that she's showing how IMPORTANT I am to her by paying and so on.

Many of you women who are so concerned about how YOU feel should reverse the roll and see how maybe YOU can make the man feel appreciated and so on.

And ladies it's not the "other" things you do because as a man I also do many "other" things.

Plus those other things like "cooking" and so on. I actually love to cook for dates and I am a very good cook and I honestly can't remember the last time a date cooked for me. It's been years.

In any event paying the tab can also show a MAN the kind of woman you are. One of my favorite girl friends was a CIA employee and she usually paid every 3rd or 4th date. She said "I am taking you out this is my treat".

We dated for about a year until she was transferred over seas.

She was one CLASSY lady. I've never respected a woman more than I did her and I LOVED taking her out and buying things because I FELT cared for and appreciated by her gestures of taking me out and so on.

It's a TWO way street, any relationship is a two way street for all the issues.

You have been with some RUDE women!

If I asked you out for your birthday, I would absolutely pay the tab and bring you a birthday present to boot. It doesn't matter how much money you have and she has, it's your birthday!

If you haven't had a woman cook for you in years, you need to date me! lol. I spoil my man, when I have one.

 

[Bikini Mod]

to each their own. id rather a girls first impression of me be for my character, personality, and fun-ness to be around. not how much of a high roller i am

Darlin - you are a BOY - no disrespect. You would no more be interested in me for a date than I would be interested in you.

I haven't put down anyone on this thread but I see plenty of peeps tryin to turn that around.

If a man's money is the most important thing to him then why should I bother going on a date? I will NEVER replace his money. <---- something that gold-diggers fail to see...

I want to be NUMBER ONE with any man I choose to give my attention. This makes me less how?

 

[Bikini Mod]

to each their own. id rather a girls first impression of me be for my character, personality, and fun-ness to be around. not how much of a high roller i am

High rollers are hardly impressive. They are 9 out of 10 times obnoxious controlling loud ASSHOLES.

 

[Bikini Mod]

I'm not trying to put words in your mouth. I just didn't understand that.

So, you think that if a guy takes you to a nice restaraunt and the meal is a little pricey, it implies a certain level of seriousness in the relationship? I've never thought of it that way. I also never thought it was bad that they were trying to impress me. I think that is a good thing that they are trying to put their best foot forward. I try to impress them too. I try to dress up, maybe have my hair and nails done that day. I try to be on my best behavior,etc. I think that is just a matter of showing interest in one another. I like it.

Now, if a guy was just being obnoxious and handing the waitress $100 tips and stuff, that would just be ostentatious and pretentious, and I wouldn't like him. However, taking me to a nice place is just nice.

WERD

 

[heatherrae]

to each their own. id rather a girls first impression of me be for my character, personality, and fun-ness to be around. not how much of a high roller i am

It isn't about being a high roller, kiddo. I've said on this thread that the date could be a 50 cent cup of coffee at the park. It is a matter of not treating your date the same as you would treat a drinking buddy on the first date. It doesn't have to be expensive if the guy doesn't have much money. He just needs to be a gentleman.

 

[Faizakafez]

okay serious question, hopefully i didnt wnat to create a thread hopefully it will get burried in some posts..

say you have been talking to a girl for a while she is real nice girl and wanted to do kinda like a picnic thingy on the beach

is bringing a flower (key word letter A)

is it

a) ghey b) stupid c) douche d) any other words you can think of ?

 

[nefertiti]

What words did I put into your mouth?

I asked you to explain why you felt uncomfortable. I didn't venture a guess.

Not you. heather did. Heather - I PMed you some details that might make it more clear why I was put off...

 

[CrazyRussian]

dont worry about those money grubbing idiots. i think you have amazing character and your humility and all that is way more attractive in a personality than those 2 old spoiled brats will ever be.

ill take you to mortons, ruths chris, sam and harrys, or mcdonalds, your choice

This is such a great post.

Nefertiti's character/personality is so much more attractive and down-to-earth than some bitch who thinks that she's the shit and that she DESERVES everything and that you have to EARN her. Often times based on nothing...

I'd ENJOY paying for an expensive meal for someone like nef. Because when you guys are having your dining "experience" (eating, drinking, talking), you're just talking, trying to get to know each other, and enjoying each other's company. When the check comse at the end, it's an afterthough because you enjoy that person so much.

Now compare this to the POWER-DATING scenario lots of women like where everything is constantly a game, from what champagne you order to what steak you order to who picks up the tab. Who the fuck finds that enjoyable?

 

[nefertiti]

okay serious question, hopefully i didnt wnat to create a thread hopefully it will get burried in some posts..

say you have been talking to a girl for a while she is real nice girl and wanted to do kinda like a picnic thingy on the beach

is bringing a flower (key word letter A)

is it

a) ghey b) stupid c) douche d) any other words you can think of ?

What kind of flower?

 

[Faizakafez]

What kind of flower?

i dont no. not a rose or anything ( i think thats to senitmental)

I dont wanna look like a softy with the flower ,

but she is a petite kinda girl...

becuase 95% of the time i get your soo sweet... and thats it!

 

[heatherrae]

okay serious question, hopefully i didnt wnat to create a thread hopefully it will get burried in some posts..

say you have been talking to a girl for a while she is real nice girl and wanted to do kinda like a picnic thingy on the beach

is bringing a flower (key word letter A)

is it

a) ghey b) stupid c) douche d) any other words you can think of ?

NO! It is awesome! I love when a man brings flowers! I think that is so sweet!

 

[Faizakafez]

i dont no. not a rose or anything ( i think thats to senitmental)

I dont wanna look like a softy with the flower ,

but she is a petite kinda girl...

becuase 95% of the time i get your soo sweet... and thats it!

editied..

 

[heatherrae]

editied..

if a girl can't handle a guy bringing her flowers without thinking he is a wimp or a doormat or whatever, then I think she is the wrong girl for you. Self confident girls just enjoy the flowers.

A guy who brings flowers is just thoughtful and kind.

 

[Faizakafez]

A guy who brings flowers is just thoughtful and kind.

yup,

thats me... so far it hasnt been working..

 

[Bikini Mod]

LOL@ people and their assumptions because some of us more mature (ie - OLD) women prefer to date men that have made their way in the world. Has the thought occurred to anyone that we go for OLDER MEN? If a man hasn't made his mark in the world by 50's when will his ship come in? LOL... meaning, WHAT THE HELL has he been doing with his life that he has attained such a great level of mediocrity?

We are not talking about 20 something year old young men who are still struggling alpha males. I love alpha males, just not the young ones as their antics do not amuse me. I like the calmness and confidence of a man that has proved all he needs to to HIMSELF. <---- that right there is VERY SEXY to me.

I didn't say anything negative about anyone personally, yet I have had more than a few cheap shots taken at me because I answered the questions HONESTLY.

Funny thing though, I married a man who was homeless and had ZERO assets.

He was also the only wealthy man (at the time) who didn't blow the *You can not get me a storebought birthday present - no cash or check in a card* test either.

So now if money is *supposedly* MY ONLY or even MAIN criteria for choosing a mate then either I am lying to everyone (including myself) or I am stupid and don't know the difference between broke and wealthy.

Too many of you put your own feelings into my mouth, then go and get pissed off at me for it. Again, that is on you.

 

[heatherrae]

yup,

thats me... so far it hasnt been working..

You just haven't gotten the right girl yet. =-)

PS -- picnics on the beach can be problematic because sand gets in the food. maybe try a park, instead.

 

[Faizakafez]

You just haven't gotten the right girl yet. =-)

PS -- picnics on the beach can be problematic because sand gets in the food. maybe try a park, instead.

ahh good stuff, but the key here is beach i can go topless..then she will be like holy bejesus... so even if i do fuck up somehow in the back of my mind .. she can think

"hmmm he is quite sexy, and the cougars are after him"

if she can cook she is a keeper (for now)

 

[heatherrae]

ahh good stuff, but the key here is beach i can go topless..then she will be like holy bejesus... so even if i do fuck up somehow in the back of my mind .. she can think

"hmmm he is quite sexy, and the cougars are after him"

if she can cook she is a keeper (for now)

Actually, that is a good idea. I approve of your plan, then. lol.

 

[cindylou]

ahh good stuff, but the key here is beach i can go topless..then she will be like holy bejesus... so even if i do fuck up somehow in the back of my mind .. she can think

"hmmm he is quite sexy, and the cougars are after him"

if she can cook she is a keeper (for now)

that is a great idea fez!! LOL. When is this date?

 

[Faizakafez]

Actually, that is a good idea. I approve of your plan, then. lol.

good stuff, dont worry i can keep you on the booty call?

i like this open realtionship

 

[velvett]

Re: Women, if a man did not pay the tab on the first date, would you go on a second d

Let me elaborate a bit more on my likes and dislikes and I'm not saying people who enjoy these thing are pretentious but there seem to be a disproportionate number among their ranks . There were those pretentious people that showed up at church every Sunday when I was growing up.

I'm not materialistic, I'm actually quite a minimalist, and everything I own has a function in my life...nothing decorative at all.I don't enjoy wine tastings, cigar bars, the symphony, or the other "finer things in life" pretentious people like to brag about doing. I prefer a mountain hike to a black tie event. As a matter of fact, I would do just about anything to get out of attending a black tie affair. I've been to restaurants where the cheapest a la carte entree was $50.00 and tasted worse than the $8.00 entree at Jed's. I can't even remember the name of the restaurant but I was told it was a big deal to dine there...

What if you enjoy drinking wine but not wine tasting and certainly not talking about tasting wine (I understand "it's all in the dirt" ... buy the wine skip the tasting )

It's a given that the value of a fantastic meal is not relative to the prices on the menus - you just have try different places to find the best food. (Or better yet - cook at home - ) I think a lot of people think that a larger # makes anything and everything better quality - and the thing is most people would not know what quality is if it smacked them up the backside.

I guess what I'm trying to say is that activities should not define who people are and how they might behave.

As for the "finer things in life" - it's a sham don't you know - the finer things in life are things that people enjoy, unfortunately insecure people that need to make themselves feel better than everyone else have convinced themselves that being "it" means doing anything that costs a lot of money and makes for good Monday morning conversation.

It's a good day when I can make it to the swimming hole by 4PM on a weekday to sit under the evergreens by their shade so can read a book and look out to the harbor. Even better when I can go home, make and share dinner with the man I love with a great bottle wine that I took a chance on buying because I thought the label was cool. (bonus if he puts the dishes in the washer...)

I get what your saying but some people might surprise you.

 

[velvett]

okay serious question, hopefully i didnt wnat to create a thread hopefully it will get burried in some posts..

say you have been talking to a girl for a while she is real nice girl and wanted to do kinda like a picnic thingy on the beach

is bringing a flower (key word letter A)

is it

a) ghey b) stupid c) douche d) any other words you can think of ?

If it's a first date - no - but yes on the picnic thingy.
If you want to get a mini vase (like at a restaurant) with a flower in it - yes but save the bunch/bouquet of flowers for when you know the feelings are mutual.

 

[cindylou]

that dinner with a bottle of wine sounds so good I might just do it tonight.

 

[Faizakafez]

that dinner with a bottle of wine sounds so good I might just do it tonight.

if the weather is good, saturday..the eating part maybe a problem so i might have to do movie then walk on the beach/shore line.

 

[Sub-Zero]

How am I a *money-grubbing idiot*?

you and heatherrae are both VERY money driven. to a disgusting extent.

but you found someone and both seem to be extremely happy together so i cant hate on you too much

 

[cindylou]

if the weather is good, saturday..the eating part maybe a problem so i might have to do movie then walk on the beach/shore line.

what do you mean the eating thing might be a problem?

do you have something special coming up?

 

[Faizakafez]

what do you mean the eating thing might be a problem?

do you have something special coming up?

yup... so im trying to work around it!

 

[heatherrae]

you and heatherrae are both VERY money driven. to a disgusting extent.

but you found someone and both seem to be extremely happy together so i cant hate on you too much

If it makes you happy to believe that then believe it.

I married a man who made less money than me.

 

[LiquidPhire]

Guys should always pay the first date and make it ethier 50/50 once established or 100% the guy *dependant on fianicial status*. If SHES worth it , stop being a bitch and cough up the dough. If shes just some dumb slut make her pay , all day

 

[Sub-Zero]

If it makes you happy to believe that then believe it.

I married a man who made less money than me.

must be a misconception on my part then.

i just get the impression that your a spoiled brat when it comes to that sort of stuff. but thats obviously just from what you post on EF, which gives a very one sided judgement of peoples character.

doesnt mean i wouldnt be your friend or even wanna marry you IRL, just the impression i get from some of your posts, not meant to be an insult

 

[Scotsman]

lol @ you two. don't put words in my mouth. Of course I deserve to be treated well. But, to me, it implied a level of seriousness that didn't really feel natural at that point.

ps - if a guy is going to do nice things for me, it should be because he cares about me and wants to make me happy, not because he's trying to show me how much dollah he's willing to drop to impress me. There are better ways to spend your money.

I like the way you think. First date with an unknown is not the time to show out how much you can spend on dinner. I think a "fun" first place like a good sushi restaurant is the way to go. If all goes well use the second or third date to go all out and impress with. That way the ice is already broken and you don't have the super formal environment to content with on the first date.

Oh and back off sublime I'm already taking her to All American!!

Cheers,
Scotsman

 

[BigRupe]

If you've not found a woman that will cook for you on a date, you're finding the wrong women! I love to cook for a date
Also, women will tend to use you if they know you got some cha-ching.
How do they know you have money? Don't say nice car. b/c even poor dudes can drive nice cars

Women are good at finding that out.

I do have a nice car, I own nice house outside of Washington and another home at the beach and another home in Virginia. I dress nice and my job is known to be lucrative. My office is very spacious with a beautiful view and in a nice area in DC.

It doesn't take a rocket scientist to add it all up.

Plus some of the women I have dated are friends of friends that have known somethings about me before we dated and we travel in similar circles of accomplishment and wealth.

I haven't had a date cook for me in a LONG time and I'd rather do that then have some woman take me to dinner.

To me that gesture is worth 100 restuarant dinners.

 

[BigRupe]

You have been with some RUDE women!

If I asked you out for your birthday, I would absolutely pay the tab and bring you a birthday present to boot. It doesn't matter how much money you have and she has, it's your birthday!

If you haven't had a woman cook for you in years, you need to date me! lol. I spoil my man, when I have one.

I can sincerely say I'd do just about anything for a woman to invite me to her home and cook something. Even mac and cheese versus constant restaurants.

To know someone made it just for me would be super.

You are right I've dated some rude women and I'm sure we've all made mistakes in whom we've dated.

I just seem to meet all the wrong ones. LOL

 

[BigRupe]

okay serious question, hopefully i didnt wnat to create a thread hopefully it will get burried in some posts..

say you have been talking to a girl for a while she is real nice girl and wanted to do kinda like a picnic thingy on the beach

is bringing a flower (key word letter A)

is it

a) ghey b) stupid c) douche d) any other words you can think of ?

I could care less if some dude thought I was gay. I have done all of the above including a card and maybe a bottle of wine.

I can assure you most women are touched by the thougtfulness.

Small gestures DO matter.

They show you care and took the time to say thanks.

 

[heatherrae]

I can sincerely say I'd do just about anything for a woman to invite me to her home and cook something. Even mac and cheese versus constant restaurants.

To know someone made it just for me would be super.

You are right I've dated some rude women and I'm sure we've all made mistakes in whom we've dated.

I just seem to meet all the wrong ones. LOL

If you are ever in my neck of the woods, I swear you have an open invitation for a home cooked meal, then.

 

[foreigngirl]

Re: Women, if a man did not pay the tab on the first date, would you go on a second d

I can sincerely say I'd do just about anything for a woman to invite me to her home and cook something. Even mac and cheese versus constant restaurants.

To know someone made it just for me would be super.

You are right I've dated some rude women and I'm sure we've all made mistakes in whom we've dated.

I just seem to meet all the wrong ones. LOL

You've never been taken care of by a woman, huh? You poor thing

Some men take that cooking for them thing for granted

 

[heatherrae]

I like the way you think. First date with an unknown is not the time to show out how much you can spend on dinner. I think a "fun" first place like a good sushi restaurant is the way to go. If all goes well use the second or third date to go all out and impress with. That way the ice is already broken and you don't have the super formal environment to content with on the first date.

Oh and back off sublime I'm already taking her to All American!!

Cheers,
Scotsman

sushi IS expensive.

 

[BigRupe]

If you are ever in my neck of the woods, I swear you have an open invitation for a home cooked meal, then.

Sounds like a very kind and sweet offer. I'd even bring a flower.

Now the real question; what's your favorite dish to cook or rather what do you cook the best (taste wise)? LOL

 

[Scotsman]

sushi IS expensive.

Not compared to a nice steakhouse. And it also depends on what you get.

Cheers,
Scotsman

 

[CrazyRussian]

I can sincerely say I'd do just about anything for a woman to invite me to her home and cook something. Even mac and cheese versus constant restaurants.

To know someone made it just for me would be super.

You are right I've dated some rude women and I'm sure we've all made mistakes in whom we've dated.

I just seem to meet all the wrong ones. LOL

Amen. I remember when my girl and I went to the beach and she busted out a few tupperware containers of this very simple salad, and some lukewarm drumsticks. And for desert, one Snickers bar. It was by far the most enjoyable meal I've had in my life.