Winstrol - Dianabol is it a good cycle or should it be stack with something else?

[snakeryu]

Winstrol stack with Dianabol is it a a good cycle? 40mg each

Would I have to take an anti-estrogen pill or would winny take care of that?

I also wonder what is the actual age limit when the body stops growing is it 21 or 25?

 

[goku_kakarot77]

Winstrol stack with Dianabol is it a a good cycle? 40mg each

Would I have to take an anti-estrogen pill or would winny take care of that?

I also wonder what is the actual age limit when the body stops growing is it 21 or 25?

looks like you need to do some more research, taking two orals together is not the best idea

 

[nuclear_zebra]

The 2 orals would not be a good combo. First it would be hard on your liver . Secondly you would have to take a sh.. t high dosage to see results . It sounds to me like you want to do a first cycle and are lookin at doin the orals because injectin is kinda scary at first . Winnie is a cutting agent and dianabol is a mass builder . But hey believe you me when i say that what works for one herc wanna be don't work for another . this is my 2 cents run dianabol for about 2 weeks then introduce an injectable . if you re young and don't see the point of takin test . Anyways I am right a freakin book and i will stop now .

 

[partagus]

What are your stats? How old are you? Etc.........

 

[GUARDIAN]

i dont mind them being in the same cycle together provided there is some breathing room between them. but at the same time? they are both 17-aa and not so great on your liver.

 

[snakeryu]

165 lbs 5'8 medium built age 22 .
Well i figured if i needed to take a good high dosage i should stack them, I've been hearing alot of people complaining about how a winny cycle only doesn't do a damn thing. Now is that because there over 200lbs and that there body needs more to feel the effects like alcohol? The goal is to gain 40lbs and gain good amount of strength. I'm only planning to run it 4 weeks then off 4 weeks etc. The most thing I'm afraid of is the effects of dian thats why i wanted to understand if there was no need to take an anti estrogen if I'm mixing it with winny. And whats that drug that increase's red blood cells, I've been hearing?

 

[jnef]

165 lbs 5'8 medium built age 22 .
Well i figured if i needed to take a good high dosage i should stack them, I've been hearing alot of people complaining about how a winny cycle only doesn't do a damn thing. Now is that because there over 200lbs and that there body needs more to feel the effects like alcohol? The goal is to gain 40lbs and gain good amount of strength. I'm only planning to run it 4 weeks then off 4 weeks etc. The most thing I'm afraid of is the effects of dian thats why i wanted to understand if there was no need to take an anti estrogen if I'm mixing it with winny. And whats that drug that increase's red blood cells, I've been hearing?

whats ur bf% anyways - you wont truely appreciate the sculpting effects of winny unless, ur 10-%

btw dont run dbol and winny at the same time, baddddd idea

no way you'll see 40 lbs of muscle

bro do some research, it'll help you out immensly

 

[HAYEZ]

you need to scrap this idea and start doing some reading....first of all your not gonna gain 40 lbs of muscle in a cycle no matter what your taking...you can gain 40 but its gonna come from fat

 

[Big A]

40, haha

 

[DannoMight]

i dont mind them being in the same cycle together provided there is some breathing room between them. but at the same time? they are both 17-aa and not so great on your liver.

yes and also the tend to have opposite effects i.e. bloat vs hardness. I wouldn't do 2 orals together unless for a bb comp the it would only be for 4-6 weeks and stuff like var and proviron.

 

[snakeryu]

LOL its a goal im going for I did not say I would get it from this cycle. I would only gain 5lbs, 10lbs if im lucky with this cycle. I could careless if wanting to look hard just want to gain strength. I don't know how to caculate my bf%.

 

[jnef]

LOL its a goal im going for I did not say I would get it from this cycle. I would only gain 5lbs, 10lbs if im lucky with this cycle. I could careless if wanting to look hard just want to gain strength. I don't know how to caculate my bf%. changed the quote for you

edit your post, no source talk

 

[jnef]

edit your post, no source talk

on another note, what are your stats?

age/weight/height/bf%(but you dont know that, can you see abs?)

how long have you been lifting?

do you use the squat rack?, just a hunch

 

[JLowe02]

i see alright gains on a winny only cycle. nothing spectacular, but every ounce of muscle you will gain you'll probably keep, assuming everything else is in check. winny is a good first time drug due to its lack of sides, but in my opinion i would try some test first. maybe throw the winny in for the last six week up to the day you start your pct, to maximize gains. just my .02.

p.s. d-bol and winny is a bad stack, and thats more fact than opinion.

 

[snakeryu]

I can see my abs but not as well like it seems 1lb fat is covering. How do you know if you pleatu or been overtraining.Its been 3 years no improvements again I have tried everything so don't say like how many reps,sets,heavy, low weights, static, partial,machine,free weights, circuit training, super set, to failure or not, essentric portion lifting,calorie intake and even took 4 days off from training. I had 3 years to try new things and combine but no strength improvements. All I want to know is that can you still be overtraining even if your not sore? Have I completely destroyed my CNS?

 

[splperformance]

holy crap...i'm not even gonna read the other responses after what this guy said...you want to take a 4 week cycle of dbol and winny and expect to gain 40lbs because you are tiny...try this...EAT EAT EAT CORRECTLY and TRAIN CORRECTLY for a few more years and you'll hit 185-200lbs. no problem naturally...then after doing this, all the while RESEARCHING STEROIDS, come back to us with some knowledge and stats and then we'll help you out...but seriously, you need to do a lot more research before sticking anything in your body...

here's a good one to scare you...winny causes your HDL levels to drop through the floor all the while raising your LDL levels...this in turn can cause you to have a heart attack out of the blue depending on what kind of stresses are put on your body...so again, go read ALOT more and research and don't ever take 2 17-aa orals at the same exact time

 

[splperformance]

I can see my abs but not as well like it seems 1lb fat is covering. How do you know if you pleatu or been overtraining.Its been 3 years no improvements again I have tried everything so don't say like how many reps,sets,heavy, low weights, static, partial,machine,free weights, circuit training, super set, to failure or not, essentric portion lifting,calorie intake and even took 4 days off from training. I had 3 years to try new things and combine but no strength improvements. All I want to know is that can you still be overtraining even if your not sore? Have I completely destroyed my CNS?

how many years have you been lifting before you hit this supposed 3 year plateau...i mean, you're only 22 so how can you honestly think you've plateaud??? i guess it goes back to my last post, EAT MORE AND EAT RIGHT AND YOU'LL GROW!!!!!!!!!!!! and if you think you're eating enough, EAT MORE!!! it's amazing to know but it's food that makes you grow

 

[nuclear_zebra]

Winnie is the one that increases the red blood cell count which in turn increases nitrogen retention that produces the great anabolic environment provided you supply the proper amount of nutrition . 17-18 cals per pound of your weight . So if you weigh 160 lbs . That would be 2880 calories. Your age suggests to me that you should pound out all your gains the natural way . Exhaust them you have a long way to go. Doin the roids is a lazy way out and there are some consequences . You have lots of natural test I hope . So proper diet good workout plan lots of good solid sleep will do wonders for you . If you just have to do a cycle do a short blast 4-6 week cycle small gains will come but you will keep them . 200-300 mgs. deca-durabolin /week with 15-25 mgs. of dianabol every day. 4 weeks 6 max and you will not need to do pct like nolvas and clomid crap . Then get out and stay away for 3 to 6 months then plan another cycle and in the meantime read dude read research . Its all here man . Spend the 60-120 bucks first on some expert advice by buyin some e-books right here on elitefitness. Chemical muscle enhacment by Mesieur Rae is great . George Spellwin has a great book just look em up heeeeyyyyyyyy I think I am writing a book right now !!!

 

[JLowe02]

try take a two week break, then come back and completely re-adjust your workouts, and include ones you don't do often, and delete ones you are use to(to some extent). and load up on cals, and take CREATINE, which imo, is the closest thing to a legal steroid i've ever seen.

 

[ALIN]

Winstrol stack with Dianabol is it a a good cycle? 40mg each

Would I have to take an anti-estrogen pill or would winny take care of that?

I also wonder what is the actual age limit when the body stops growing is it 21 or 25?

IN GENERAL,,,no ,,NOT the best choice in AAS combinations

 

[halfcenturian]

As mentioned... lift natty for now. Lift with INTENSITY. Eat everything in sight. When you hit 180lbs then run a test only cycle for 12 weeks. Forget about orals.

 

[snakeryu]

holy crap...i'm not even gonna read the other responses after what this guy said...you want to take a 4 week cycle of dbol and winny and expect to gain 40lbs because you are tiny...try this...EAT EAT EAT CORRECTLY and TRAIN CORRECTLY for a few more years and you'll hit 185-200lbs. no problem naturally...then after doing this, all the while RESEARCHING STEROIDS, come back to us with some knowledge and stats and then we'll help you out...but seriously, you need to do a lot more research before sticking anything in your body...

here's a good one to scare you...winny causes your HDL levels to drop through the floor all the while raising your LDL levels...this in turn can cause you to have a heart attack out of the blue depending on what kind of stresses are put on your body...so again, go read ALOT more and research and don't ever take 2 17-aa orals at the same exact time

lol I have done my research and yes I know that HDL levels do drop through the floor so its best to use the injection but thats not what I want. I know the risk, 3 years will drive you mad to do stubborn things . ur reply insults me but I know your only trying to help ,I've been training at the age of 12, 10 years of lifting.Consuming more calories and no not junk food like pizza etc. I filled my body with food when i could not eat no more but which made me obtain fat and no strength. I didn't care to phrase my question or sentence carefully. I know its not the best idea but thats all i can obtain.I use creatine before talk about garbage it doesn't help me in anyway. Really why i wanted to use dbnol with winny is because of the joint and problems that I 've been hearing and reading. Steroids are performance enhancing drug !!!!!

 

[the_alcatraz]

6 weeks dbols. 1 week off. 6 weeks winstrol. That's if you're doing orals. I'd recommend test throughout. What do you think?

i dont mind them being in the same cycle together provided there is some breathing room between them. but at the same time? they are both 17-aa and not so great on your liver.