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Winstrol blows

LOL.. I was just reading both those posts and was wondering what you really thought of winny.
 
I know you have had bad experience with it due to horrible lipid levels. I used it and loved the results it gave me. I did not get bloodwork done until 2 months after the cycle. My lipid values came back extremely healthy. I just worry about winny with hair loss.
 
Nothing good about it that some other compound can not do. Nothing!!!

Ha! I feel that way about deca and I know you love it.

Everyone's got their likes and dislikes. When I used Winny, I liked it, but agree, there's better stuff.

Dave Draper used it exclusively.


Sergio Oliva said he liked it but it made him TOO vascular. Dontcha hate guys like this?
 
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For those of us that like the lean, cut as opposed to the bloated moon face look I BEG TO DIFFER! :D
 
im about to give it a shot. Maybe ill agree.... im hoping not though... ill let you know if i have any hair left afterwards, and if my liver is still in check
 
My ankles seem to swell on winni , the results are great but this side is a little worrying for me.

Brad.
 
loved winstrol but man i do not like what it did to my lipids :worried:
 
If it weren't for the hairloss, I'd chew them on every cycle. I think I'm just going to stick with Anavar...
 
i do agree winny is over rated but it is a good. But i ran some primo with test, one of the compounds i threw in my never ending cycle. and i liked it much more than winny, i was more vascular. i never saw the fat loss with winny like some people say. just nice clean gains. but again i like primo better, anavar did nothing for me.
 
masteron,proviron,var, and one and one bro.

Agreed with the var if you can get legit and decently priced, but masteron & proviron cant really yeild results when taken by itself like winny can :p

i think its all personal preference i myself am very gyno prone so i stay away from test at any cost... and winny is not sports most abused steroid for no reason ;)
 
i do agree winny is over rated but it is a good. But i ran some primo with test, one of the compounds i threw in my never ending cycle. and i liked it much more than winny, i was more vascular. i never saw the fat loss with winny like some people say. just nice clean gains. but again i like primo better, anavar did nothing for me.

Test/primo/mast is the bomb though
 
Isn't hairloss on masteron similiar to winny?

I'm on Test/Tren/Primo/Var (will add in soon). I am in love with myself right now.

Not as bad but yes. Any dht will give you problems with this. But if I recall you used beastdrol and had no problems with hair right? If so then you will not have much problems with mast ether.
 
Not as bad but yes. Any dht will give you problems with this. But if I recall you used beastdrol and had no problems with hair right? If so then you will not have much problems with mast ether.
No probs with beastdrol at all! The only thing that really gave me noticeable hairloss was Winny, even at just 40mg e/d.
 
No probs with beastdrol at all! The only thing that really gave me noticeable hairloss was Winny, even at just 40mg e/d.

See what I am saying bro. Beastdrol is way more powerful then winny. Hands down I'll put my money where my mouth is on that. More strength gains x100 about the same veins popping,much more lean muscle gains and less problems with hair loss.

The lipids will get crushed more by winny and about the only thing that makes winny better is its a little less harsh on the liver.

You can get beastdrol for fucking cheaper hello!!!

But fuck my products. If beast was ok for you then mast will be even less harsh on your hair IMO... More expensive though.
 
you need to be fairly lean to notice anything at all with winny.

Strength gains included? Im only on day 5 of 100 mgs a day and am alot fuller and my lifts have gone UP!
 
Never tried winstrol but how does it rank with anavar? I use the var to cut up but both have an argument to which is better according to a lot I know who have taken both.

Which one is better for athletic performance or strength?
 
Never tried winstrol but how does it rank with anavar? I use the var to cut up but both have an argument to which is better according to a lot I know who have taken both.

Which one is better for athletic performance or strength?

First off lets get you out of the red. NOw what ever you did to get in the red I am sure you will not do again.... I also gave you a free week plat.

Now pharm grad var puts winny to shame for what you are talking about bro.
 
Strength gains included? Im only on day 5 of 100 mgs a day and am alot fuller and my lifts have gone UP!

ive never used winny alone, so I can't say. but as for the look, it kinda just sucks the water out of you. you got to be pretty ripped in the first place to really benifet from that.

like needto, im not really a fan of winny either.
 
All orals suck.
 
ill jump on the winny hate band wagon lol
i drank some b4 :o
im old, joints
like mast and giving beast a run now
 
All orals suck.

I object to a huge degree. I personally prefer orals over injectables while others think different or the same.

But what makes you think such a thing? Some orals give you bigger gains than injectables...

Not because I have a phobia for syringes, in fact as gay as it sounds I like the feeling of putting it in a piece of meat on my body but the way it's so frustrating for me to get the last couple MLs out of the vials pisses me off bad.

Orals all you have to do is just swallow a couple of them daily, simple as that. You don't have to dose them with a syringe right on the right value or anything, just swallow it.

Orals have the best cutting up products like anavar and the best mass gaining products like anadrol and dianabol. Injectables for cutting up and bulking up can't compete with those.
 
Haha Needto, that is funny because everyone used to think winny was incredibly safe and a good choice. Its true that it is the most abused roid among athletes but then again they are athletes in in top cardio condition year round where winny makes a difference I guess. Get's alot of people to revise which is better Anavar or Winny as many will say winny due to the price etc but this will have them reconsider as good Anavar is hard to beat.
 
Haha Needto, that is funny because everyone used to think winny was incredibly safe and a good choice. Its true that it is the most abused roid among athletes but then again they are athletes in in top cardio condition year round where winny makes a difference I guess. Get's alot of people to revise which is better Anavar or Winny as many will say winny due to the price etc but this will have them reconsider as good Anavar is hard to beat.

I get both for exactly the same price...should I side with anavar? I've always wanted to try all types of gear and winstrol sounds sweet but anavar has always been my cutter.
 
long time, no chat needto...how are things, brother? finished up school and have been hoping from job to job and my workout routine has taken a friggin blow. just so that i don't hi-jack this thread into a old school re-union, i 100% agree that winny blows lol

~Alc

PS I could use some serious karma here, taking over a year off will lose those crowns, :supercool
 
Winny kills my shoulders. It also kills my HDL lipids. But I have taken the hell out of it, because it is always available.
 
long time, no chat needto...how are things, brother? finished up school and have been hoping from job to job and my workout routine has taken a friggin blow. just so that i don't hi-jack this thread into a old school re-union, i 100% agree that winny blows lol

~Alc

PS I could use some serious karma here, taking over a year off will lose those crowns, :supercool

Good to see you bro. I hit you up with 100k. That should be plenty to get you started again.

Good to see you man and glad you got school over with, congrats that. I hope you settle into a good job you like some time soon. One that pays you some good money..


Looks like its that season again. Everyone going back to school,moving,getting set up and shit. This means ef is going to be a little slow for the next month or so till everyone gets settles into there new schools/life and shit. Happens every year. This month is always the slowest month for posting ever. No ones got the time.
 
Fuck all you guys! :D Go ahead and send it my way if you dont want it... :heart:
 
Good to see you bro. I hit you up with 100k. That should be plenty to get you started again.

Good to see you man and glad you got school over with, congrats that. I hope you settle into a good job you like some time soon. One that pays you some good money..


Looks like its that season again. Everyone going back to school,moving,getting set up and shit. This means ef is going to be a little slow for the next month or so till everyone gets settles into there new schools/life and shit. Happens every year. This month is always the slowest month for posting ever. No ones got the time.
Thanks for the K, man....yeah i just settled into this job about 2-3 months ago and i think might be moving again soon, lol.

yeah school is starting up again, i just got back from my alum's football scrim this past weekend....my boys are looking good.

I'm starting to get back into the gym just now....got 3 days in this week....actually got nauseous the first 2 times because i decided to squat till i puke and bench till i almost passed out after taking a 2 month hiatus from the weight room. i need a kick in my ass...some good pre-workout supps (non-aas) since i've got down the straight path...what's the big place to go to now for some good pre-workout supps? Take care big guy,

~Alc
 
Thanks for the K, man....yeah i just settled into this job about 2-3 months ago and i think might be moving again soon, lol.

yeah school is starting up again, i just got back from my alum's football scrim this past weekend....my boys are looking good.

I'm starting to get back into the gym just now....got 3 days in this week....actually got nauseous the first 2 times because i decided to squat till i puke and bench till i almost passed out after taking a 2 month hiatus from the weight room. i need a kick in my ass...some good pre-workout supps (non-aas) since i've got down the straight path...what's the big place to go to now for some good pre-workout supps? Take care big guy,

~Alc

Why my site of course lol
needtobuildmuscle.com

I will have amp02 in my store in a few days. Also all the other agx products too and some new ones of my own for this. Agx is the best though imo..
 
Why my site of course lol
needtobuildmuscle.com

I will have amp02 in my store in a few days. Also all the other agx products too and some new ones of my own for this. Agx is the best though imo..
i've been dying to try amp02 along w/ some pure mcc, i'll definitely keep peaking every once and a while to grab some when u do get it :Chef:
 
pointless..what are your goals?
I'm trying to gain strength without putting on ANY weight.

The winny i was on when this posted was bunk. I've bought some desma since then and getting good power from it.

My bench is up about 20 lb with an 8wk cycle. That's including 4 weeks of bunk product.

Finally experiencing the sore joints I read about.

Would mast, or Beastdrol give the same gains.

Power, without any size or weight gain?

It would be even better, for me, if I there were a supplement that could shrink muscle and give power.

Is that even possible?
 
I'm trying to gain strength without putting on ANY weight.

The winny i was on when this posted was bunk. I've bought some desma since then and getting good power from it.

My bench is up about 20 lb with an 8wk cycle. That's including 4 weeks of bunk product.

Finally experiencing the sore joints I read about.

Would mast, or Beastdrol give the same gains.

Power, without any size or weight gain?

It would be even better, for me, if I there were a supplement that could shrink muscle and give power.

Is that even possible?

t-bol :heart:
 
Im with needtoo, never used depot winny but Iv used oral winny at 100mg Ed and it just slammed my blood pressure up and gave me crazy nose bleeds! I think it does have its place if your BF is low enough, you will see an improvement in your physique and yes its great for track athletes. Have not yet tried anavar, but always see good things posted on here about it. Who ever said all orals suck - i have to disagree there. Any bulker should include a dbol or anadrol kickstart first 4 or so weeks. If your gonna loose around 50% of your gains (which tends to happen on bulking cycles), why not gain from day one instead of around week 3/4???!!! There is an extra 10lbs (ish) from the orals in any bulker.

Test p, Tren ace and masteron is the king of cutting cycles.....enjoy the fact that i can get all that in one blend. Sweet!
 
Yeah i hate winni, it didnt do shit for me, for the kind of gains someone would look for with winni their are better alternatives.
 
I stacked winny with test propionate and slin, all 3 are very short acting in steroid tems.

Very pleased with the results. I walked around all day with a shaker filled with whey and carbs

and sipped on it.. Never had a problem with slin, not evn close.
 
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