Please Scroll Down to See Forums Below I never really listened to people when I was younger and wanting to try steroids. At 16 I took a cycle of dbol only @ 30mg/day for 6 weeks, put on about 25lbs, lost 15 if it after pct. Next year I tried a test + dbol cycle, 500mg test/week for 10weeks and 40mg dbol for first 6 weeks. I gained a ton of muscle, felt like I was invincible. After that cycle, even with a proper pct nolvadex and clomid, I started to feel different. A few months after that cycle I went into a bad depression, felt like shit, still went to the gym but maybe once,twice a week. Its been 3 years since then, I've been working out natural for past year, depression is gone, but I just don't feel right. Turns out my even 3 years later my natural test level is at about 300ng/dl at only 20 years old, so when Im 30 it might drop to 200 or less (between 800-1200ng/dl is normal for an active male my age) The doctor says at that age of 14-18 is when all your hormonal changes occur and taking steroids during those times caused alot of hormonal imbalances and things never really went back to normal. Now at only 20 years old I might have to consider TRT (testosterone replacement therapy) which means because my own body can't make the required amount, I might have to go get a shot of synthetic testosterone once a week for the rest of my life. This is my own personal experience, it might be different for each person, but I jsut wanted to share this experience. I've tried alot of test supplements claiming they increase natural test but nothing seems to work. Still though if anyone has gone through a similar thing and have found a solution besides HRT please share. thanks
Why teens shouldn't take steroids
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lookinfit75
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First off I am very sorry you are going through this and this post should be a sticky for the youngsters that come on here asking for advice to read about just how dangerous AAS can be to those who are not old enough to use.
Just a thought to try and help you out: Now that you are older, have you considered trying to go through a proper PCT with some HCG and other drugs and maybe some Sustain Alpha to try and jump start your HPTA? I mean at this point, with the possibility of HRT for the rest of your life (and you're only 20 for Pete's sake), maybe you should look into it.
Anyway, I hope you are able to fully recover. Good luck.
Just a thought to try and help you out: Now that you are older, have you considered trying to go through a proper PCT with some HCG and other drugs and maybe some Sustain Alpha to try and jump start your HPTA? I mean at this point, with the possibility of HRT for the rest of your life (and you're only 20 for Pete's sake), maybe you should look into it.
Anyway, I hope you are able to fully recover. Good luck.
HugeMenges
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happened to me too. Fuked up thing was doctors were telling me 270 and 320 test levels were within normal limits. Doctors are fuking retards in this country! Gonna try and jumpstart myself. Let me know if you find some good information. Someone should sticky something like this.
sorry ta hear that bro..everyone makes mistakes.. lets just hope we can help prevent some of them.
I went to the local supplement store, last week and told them about my problem, the guy sounded really knowlegable and told me to try Novedex XT, but it is $89.99 in store so i looked it up on ebay and found it for just $45 with shipping. So im waiting on that, also I've been thinking about sustain alpha, I've read/heard good things. I just dont want somehting that will raise my test, and once im off it my natural test be even lower than it was before I took it.
trt sounds like the way to go to me. i serously doubt cycling anything is going to be a help to you. even if some natty stuff is going to help its only until you stop then you have to re adjust. every time you start and stop you will have to do the same thing.
trt is healthier and safer. you could keep a healthy test level year round. it can be easier then you think. maybe the jel will work for you. if you do get the injects they will only make you come in for them in the beginning after a while you can do it yourself.
go to a clinic and talk to the doc about it.
trt is healthier and safer. you could keep a healthy test level year round. it can be easier then you think. maybe the jel will work for you. if you do get the injects they will only make you come in for them in the beginning after a while you can do it yourself.
go to a clinic and talk to the doc about it.
I only hope a few youngsters will read your post, and decide it's better to hold off.
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Big_BK
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16 is crazy young. You haven't even hit puberty yet really. Anyone THAT young is asking for trouble, sorry to see you hurt yourself bro. Hopefully others will read this and make a better choice. Have you seen an endocrinologist yet?
yah i agree with 2evil
theres a good chance he may never be able to have children if he follows this advice. make sure to mention that when you think prescribing lifelong trt as a recommendation, especially to a 20 year old.
I really hope you can get your HPTA jump started. I would definatley try a few things before resorting to TRT.
perryscoon
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You are a very intelligent 20 year old. Sorry to hear the bad news though.
Well welcome to the club! haha
My first cycle was at 26 and after about 5 years of cycling on and off I went off for a couple years and the same thing happened to me. I felt tired all the time, most of my gains were gone, I was flabby and looked like shit, I even felt a little dizzy at times and couldn't sleep well. Life was horrible. One day it dawned on me that this was the culprit and I took a shot of test-p to see what would happen. In less than 30 minutes I felt better. That was 2 years ago and I've been on TRT ever since and I feel fine now.
Word to the wise, no matter how much PCT you do after your cycles, eventually your natty test is going to take a permanent dive if you do steroids a lot.
Well welcome to the club! haha
My first cycle was at 26 and after about 5 years of cycling on and off I went off for a couple years and the same thing happened to me. I felt tired all the time, most of my gains were gone, I was flabby and looked like shit, I even felt a little dizzy at times and couldn't sleep well. Life was horrible. One day it dawned on me that this was the culprit and I took a shot of test-p to see what would happen. In less than 30 minutes I felt better. That was 2 years ago and I've been on TRT ever since and I feel fine now.
Word to the wise, no matter how much PCT you do after your cycles, eventually your natty test is going to take a permanent dive if you do steroids a lot.
I was doing a little research on the primordial performance trs, it just got me thinking, maybe the other two aren't as important as the sustain alpha, so I might just try out the sustain alpha alone, or will taking all 3 products as a stack REALLY make a bigger difference? Since sustain alpha is the main thing. And the whole stack is kind of out of my budget.
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RADAR
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This is the sad thing,and i am sorry to say it, but youngsters will spend alot of money on a cycle and neglect proper PCT ,that doesn't make any sense to me, You can try unleashed i would also try some HCG also.
You may have to cycle a few PCT's hopefully that will get you jump started.
RADAR
you have a valid point and i should have mentioned that. thanks for calling me on it. its easy to only state the positives.
i think this situation differs from the common i waited to long for pct and now im screwed what do i do thread. i think this is more of a i stopped my development during my childhood and now im really screwed thread. i could be wrong i guess but i really dont see it possible to reverse this problem.
definately talk to a doctor and weigh it all out before you start doing anything that could further prolong the condition or make it worst.
lookinfit75
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Another thing to look into is Proviron. It clearly states on the isert that the legit stuff comes with (my stuff is Shering that I personally bought in Ecuador in a legit pharmacy) that it can be precribed for infertility and hypogonadism if I am not mistaken. I'll have to dig up the insert but I am almost positive that's what was written.
artificialaspirations
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ask the dooc about hcg/hmg and clomid. You can recover bro.
Long story short: I'm 28 and was on hrt for 8 months becuase I had two tests come back low (were months apart). After 8 months my sperm count went to zero and stopped the TRT in a panic. Nuts are producing again and test is 562. Up over 300 points from previous. So even after eight months of exogenious testosterone I recovered.
Don't be so quick to take the easy way out. TRT can be a pain in the ass, especially at your age.
Long story short: I'm 28 and was on hrt for 8 months becuase I had two tests come back low (were months apart). After 8 months my sperm count went to zero and stopped the TRT in a panic. Nuts are producing again and test is 562. Up over 300 points from previous. So even after eight months of exogenious testosterone I recovered.
Don't be so quick to take the easy way out. TRT can be a pain in the ass, especially at your age.
good advice/motivation bro!! ^^
eClenbuterol
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Man I hope a few young bucks read into this thread.
airsmith2k
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yeah doin it that young is dumb but alotta pros started when they were like freakin 13yrs old crazy i know guys from jersey that know former pros outta jersey who told me that
airsmith2k
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u never tried takin hcg?
No, can I get that without a prescription? Is it oral,shots...?
One of my "stupid" friends who took roids with me when we were younger. Just got his levels checked. His is : bioavailable test 12.2 nm but I'm not sure how to convert to ng/dl. I'm still a little confused as to the diffrence between bioavailable and total and free test. If someone can clear that up for me and convert the numbers to ng/dl I'd really appreciate it. Thanks
I went to see an endocrinologist today, suprise suprise, he too says its a normal level don't worry about it it's all in your head. I think doctors feel threatened when someone who isnt completely stupid and doesn't know whats going on with their body and just does whatever they say tries to tell them they're wrong. After I explain all my symptoms and show him some test levels by age group charts, he says they're all bullshit and says dont trust the internet, so I said, ok well do you have a trusted chart that shows what test levels should be, and he says no, well then how do you know my tests levels arent low? he says because the lab says its in the middle of their range which is between 73 ng/dl to 520 ng/dl. He basically says well just don't worry about it, it'll go away, and tells me i might had ACD because I know too much about this and Im too persistent in trying to find out whats going on. Looks like I'm all on my own, Im thinking of trying sustain alpha and hcg, but is it possible to get hcg without a prescription?
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Is there anyone on here in ottawa, canada that can reccomend a knowlegable endocrinologist? What would youguys reccomend for trying to atleast double natural test? Im trying to find a hgc supplier, do you think clomid would do it, are any of those supplements claiming to increase LH production true? Or arimidex to decrease estrogen, therefore making more test?
Therealdeal06555
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rxhealthdrugs.com has hcg for you to buy
humza8b
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i am newbie in here,was about to going for Dbol & testo; i have a teen fashion show coming up in feb & had planned for the ramp.I am 20 atm and will be 21 in march.but this thread scared me.I better not juice but still a question,> can i bulk on dbol for a month and will i be fine? i'd never go for steroids at least for next 3 4 years.
gorillahung
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Four weeks is long enough to shut down natural test levels. I've found that the crash after a dbol cycle is worse than any other gear even with proper post cycle therapy.
RADAR
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it's not polite ot hijack others threads , but you need to do as i did bust your butt in the gym and build a solid foundation ,you can't build rome on tooth picks
