Why I don't believe in God. Those who believe, please help me understand...

[Big Brother Val]

The plan that I am talking about is not like a preset plan. He directs us to certain things and places at certain times in our life. This is one reason that you see some missionaries going over to Afghanistan right now. They feel that God wants them to go over there and share their faith. Could they be wrong? Sure, but they are going by what they think His will is. As far as a child being abused or killed. I think that is a deeper question. I believe that sometimes if the parents sin then the child will suffer from it. For instance, if two people decide to have a child out of wedlock then I think it is possible for the child to be punished in some way for their actions. Like if the parents split up and then the child is stuck with only one parent or maybe it gets abandoned. Also, from what I understand, if you want God to work in your life then you have to accept Him as your Lord and Savior and take Him into your life. I don't believe He can work in people's lives if they do not allow Him to. God may let people suffer for certain reasons but I don't think that he will let them suffer throughout their whole life. It may be a time when they disobeyed God or when He is trying to make a point. All in all, He is just and will do what is right. I totally understand that you are not trying to lash out. You have questions as does everyone. I believe in God but I have many questions about Him that may never get answered in my lifetime, but how would I be human if I didn't ask them. I don't claim to know all these answers, rather these are my interpretations on the matter at hand.

I appreciate you taking the time to respond... this stuff is very confusing to me.

It's not that I want to find God in my life... it's that I can't understand why he allows children to be hurt. Even if I have God in my life, I'll still not understand why he allows children to be hurt.

A 6 month old baby can't ask God for mercy, because his parents won't have any. He can't pray... he can't accept God... he simply suffers until his death.

Now... there's no point in any bible that can be made to the kid, as he can't read. There's no praying he can do, because he can't speak... there's no mercy for the child, because God doesn't have any.

I just can't accept a God who's supposed to be our father... yet is the most neglectful parent of all time.

 

[Big Brother Val]

Why did God create beings who's main purpose in life is supposed to be to worship and "serve" him? Does he need our validation that badly?

Even though God is supposedly beyond our full comprehension, we still have to try to grasp him and his ways in some way that is slightly human, since that's the only existence we know. If he truly wanted us to worship and love him, why didn't he give us more capacity to understand him? Oh, wait, I'm trying to understand God based on human logic- what a fruitless endeavor (sarcasm intended).

You know, most of us can't truly understand the motive behind Jeffrey Dahmer's heinous acts of rape, torture, murder, and cannibalism, yet we don't excuse his actions based on this. Why act differently towards God? He isn't truly a God unless you make him that, anymore than some freak with a gun to your head in complete control of your future is a god. If "might doesn't make right", than why is God always right? It seems completely arbitrary to me.

You're on the same mental track as me on this. Thanks for your input.

 

[Big Brother Val]

Its true. God Himself outlines moral laws for humans to prescribe to. However, sometimes he doesnt follow those laws. He tells us to be kind and loving and good to others, and lets some individuals, like Val has pointed out, be born to parents who beat and abuse them, or gives them debilihiting psychatric disorders that ostrasize them from society and undermines their emotional wellbeing.

Its difficult. But God seems to work in the longterm. We can be pissed at God for 20 years, and later in our lives, we can find him. It is a journey.

I will find him... if he comes down here and explains to me his reasons behind letting children suffer...

Or if he doesn't do that... he can simply eliminate the suffering of children anywhere.

Hell.. if he needs another son to sacrifice for the sake of the children... then take me.

I would be honored to die for the children. And I sure as shit wouldn't need to be the Lord to do it. I'd do it to protect them... not because I'm their father... not because I'm God... but because if someone has to die for them, I would be proud to be that person.

I'm willing to suffer for children I've never met. God isn't willing to help children that are his own.

Where is his love? Where is his mercy?

 

[Big Brother Val]

God first created man as a companion. I serve Him because I am thankful for the many talents He has given me, lessons He has taught me, my life, and for the blessings He has given to me. Just because you don't understand Him does not mean that you should not believe in Him. If someone told me what a gun was and described it to me yet I had never seen one before, I would not automatically just say that there is no such thing as a gun. That is why believing in God is based on faith. You have to put some sort of trust in Him.

Why would you thank God for the talents he's given you? Did you learn anything spontaneously? Did you wake up one morning, and realize you could play the guitar?

Did you pray, and then suddenly meet your fitness goals the next half hour?

No. What you know, and what you do, you have chosen for yourself.

I totally respect your belief in God, please don't get me wrong.

But when someone earns something for themselves, and thank God for what they earned... makes me wonder if the guy who beats his kid thanks God that he not only gave him the ability to beat his kid, but to not get caught in doing so, and not serving jail time.

 

[casavant]

God first created man as a companion. I serve Him because I am thankful for the many talents He has given me, lessons He has taught me, my life, and for the blessings He has given to me. Just because you don't understand Him does not mean that you should not believe in Him. If someone told me what a gun was and described it to me yet I had never seen one before, I would not automatically just say that there is no such thing as a gun. That is why believing in God is based on faith. You have to put some sort of trust in Him.

God may or may not "exist" ("existence" is not a term to be taken lightly, but that's a whole other argument. For the sake of this one, I won't pursue the issue any further), but even if he does exist, why would you believe in him with unquestioning faith? Think really hard about this question and give me a well articulated answer. Why give God your loyalty? Because he can send you to heaven or hell? Because of his awesome power? Because he is supposedly ultimately responsible for your creation? Who says you have to be loyal to your creator, no matter what? If you worship God, that's fine. Just admit that it's as arbitrary a decision as any.

 

[dude]

I will do some reading and try to find a better answer to the questions you have.

 

[casavant]

I will do some reading and try to find a better answer to the questions you have.

I will be genuinely interested in you answer.

 

[casavant]

BUMP before I go.

 

[mattcanning99]

funny, my friend says that i will go to hell, because, despite being a nice person, and all the rest, i dont live my life for god because im agnostic, at least for the moment. therefore, i am doomed to hell.

whereas, if hitler, in the time before he died, asked for forgiveness, will be in heaven.

any comments?

 

[DcupSheepNipples]

God is really Santa! How else would he get laid! Mrs. Clause is a hot piece of Ass!