Why do bros still use Oral illegal AAS when there is legal ones that are stronger.

[needtogetaas]

Re: Why do bros still use Oral illegal AAS when there is legal ones that are stronger

i have tried superdrol,,,did nothing for me, even went up to 70mg a day,,absolutely nothing.

where did you get it? may not have been pure. I would rather not have a no no I know it was good but a it came from (insert name of place here) I do know the monsterdrol at jam has been tested by a outside lab and it came back 99% pure... Not saying this is the only reason but just asking so I can know.

 

[needtogetaas]

Re: Why do bros still use Oral illegal AAS when there is legal ones that are stronger

a couple of things here. 1 - the human body can easily fluctuate 8 pounds a day in water weight alone. 2 - how do you know you are holding less water? did you actually test this or is it your opinion by the look in the mirror. either way, you didnt test your water weight as a control to say you are or are not holding more water. its your opinion.

onto the actual "science" of it. your claim of more than half a pound of new muscle a day is just not plausible - the body doesnt breakdown, heal, and rebuild muscle at this pace regardless of caloric intake or chemical enhancement. its not that im a doubter. its just not humanly possible, thats all. call it not believing complete bullshit. people can cycle for 12 weeks and maybe walk away with 12 pounds (and that is a ton of lean muscle in 10 or 12 weeks, a ton) but this miracle compound matches or better yet, greatly exceeds that. this is actually pretty funny. please continue.

well its not uncommon for first time aas users to gain 30-40lbs on a aas cycle. thats a lb a day or more.

Now putting a number on how much you will gain in wait i do feel is silly. Its like the threads you see new people making ( how much can I expect to gain on this cycle)... SO yes I get your point and its a very good one. Lets stop the you will gain this amount and that amount and just say that it works. It builds muscle really well and you get a lot of strength gains..

Now other then this is there any other gripes?

 

[Just Add Muscle]

Re: Why do bros still use Oral illegal AAS when there is legal ones that are stronger

where did you get it? may not have been pure. I would rather not have a no no I know it was good but a it came from (insert name of place here) I do know the monsterdrol at jam has been tested by a outside lab and it came back 99% pure... Not saying this is the only reason but just asking so I can know.

I would be willing to bet he took superdrol NG witch is not superdrol or the same ingredient. kinda like Gasparis new Halodrol witch is not the same ingredient as the original or work even close to the same way.

 

[needtogetaas]

Re: Why do bros still use Oral illegal AAS when there is legal ones that are stronger

i think the issue here is that everyone is different--some bros can add tons of lean muscle w/o gear--some can barely add and keep gains on lots-o-gear.

there are so many variables that the one thing we know is there is no "one size fits all" for anyone---it remains trial and error for years until you are able to get all your ducks in a row.

most of all, new stuff comes out all the time--most crap, but some stuff just proves itself as a valuable addition in a short amount of time (e.g unleashed, sustain, amp02)

thus, to me, a site like this is just invaluable in being on the cutting edge (e.g. Nelson's thoughts on Nolva---of which I agree)

sorry, just needed to rant a bit

I don't disagree--there are just some bros (like me) that like the predictability of compounds that have been around for a long time and where there is more than anecdotal evidence to support the claims BUT it is not that I doubt evidence such as bro-ology as it is often all we have to go on--and in my experience many times ahead of the pointy-heads .

But but But bro!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

[needtogetaas]

Re: Why do bros still use Oral illegal AAS when there is legal ones that are stronger

What's wrong with questioning a claim though? To me it seems like healthy skepticism is an absolute necessity to keep the entire suppliment industry in check.

If I posted that I'm two weeks into a new GNC supplement and my bench jumped from 375 to 595, is no one here supposed to question it?

Very true good bro. Nothing wrong with it at all and its what this board is all about.

 

[needtogetaas]

Re: Why do bros still use Oral illegal AAS when there is legal ones that are stronger

so your products are best used by newbies to training and people still fresh to body transformation? what could someone like myself, into his 20th year of training, expect from such products?

youre a salesman trying to make a sceptic with a valid point seem comical. its alot funnier to listen to someone say 15 pounds of muscle in a month is possible and then try and bring ron coleman into the picture. are you serious? your taking a man in the top 1% in bbing genetics and trying to make a correlation to an average person.

Ya but it should not matter. Or did you make a exaggerated claim yourself. Your clam was its not possible at all. Not physically possible at all was the claim to be exact.

But really who the hell cares. This really is a dumb subject that is doing no one any good. Results you will get results in muscle mass and strength and a lot of them for most people.

Lets move on from this tid bit argument.

 

[2evil]

Re: Why do bros still use Oral illegal AAS when there is legal ones that are stronger

Damn NeedTo! I love when you just let it flow!

 

[1999TL]

Re: Why do bros still use Oral illegal AAS when there is legal ones that are stronger

When did Monsterdrol come out? How does it compare to the cyclotren and pheravol that I have? Thanks.

 

[Q'wai Ch'ang]

Re: Why do bros still use Oral illegal AAS when there is legal ones that are stronger

Your not talking to a noob bro. i get blood work done every 6 months. I have been doing anabolics safely longer than some of the bros on this board have been living. Yes there was slight liver enzyme elevation but not enough to be treated, I also was using only milk thistle for liver protection. If I would have used Livercare I would have had perfect enzymes. Cholesterol and other lipids where perfectly fine so they are no worse than any other anabolic. Especially considering that their structure is very similar to many other's that have been used for many years and are FDA approved.

You can't be that old?! IF so, you would be about 80 or 90 right now! LOL

 

[OneBreath]

Re: Why do bros still use Oral illegal AAS when there is legal ones that are stronger

Oral tren gains are 4-6 lbs per month lean with a lot of strength. Non Methylated so it is a lot easier on the liver and the over all health than Monsterdrol. It also has a thermogenic affect witch causes you to sweat a lot more than other compounds. Headaches are comon in the beginning along with restless sleep.

Now i'm really curious. Non-methylated? How does it survive liver first pass? How close is it in structure to Tren A?

Also does it hurt lipids dramatically? Is shutdown dramatic like with tren?

I'd like to hear some testimonials. I haven't thought about otc orals in a while but i could see myself trying this one.

Thanks.