Why do bros still use Oral illegal AAS when there is legal ones that are stronger.

[Just Add Muscle]

Re: Why do bros still use Oral illegal AAS when there is legal ones that are stronger

is the tren xxl for vascularity ?

TrenXXL will give big strength and moderate descent muscle gains. It will help with vascularity if you are lean.

 

[gixxerman]

Re: Why do bros still use Oral illegal AAS when there is legal ones that are stronger

what is pplex designed to do??

 

[Ross]

Re: Why do bros still use Oral illegal AAS when there is legal ones that are stronger

There are several reasons why many people still use ILLEGAL oral anabolic steroids, despite the availability of certain LEGAL oral anabolic steroids.

First and foremost, in my experience many of the LEGAL oral anabolic steroids are actually more detrimental to your health than the ILLEGAL oral anabolics. For example, Superdrol(monsterdrol) is HORRIBLE for both your cholesterol and your liver, while also being very hard on your kidneys. It is also extremely harsh on the HPTA, resulting in severe testicular shutdown. The same is also the case for both Phera-Plex and Trenadrol.

Secondly, many of the legal oral anabolic steroids are now being counterfeited. Just because you are buying a LEGAL product from a LEGAL company, still doesn't mean that you are getting what you are supposed to get. Lots of legal supplement companies are simply NOT putting the actual compounds in the advertised products. You can do a simple search on BB.com and see for yourself that MANY of the legal oral anabolic supplements do NOT actually contain the steroid compounds that they are advertised to contain. The nutritional supplement industry is NOT tightly regulated at all, and only as of 09 are companies required to test both the raw materials and the finished product. As the latest steroid legal bill has been passed, the raw steroid materials are becoming increasingly difficult to source, and as a result, there are many FAKE "clones" circulating the supplement marketplace. So just because you are buying a LEGAL product from a LEGAL company, still doesn't mean that you are getting what you are supposed to get. I know that I have personally used several FAKE BATCHES of Epistane(Havoc), Superdrol(S-Drol/M-Drol), and Halodrol(H-drol).

One must not forget that the precription-grade anabolic steroids that have been used for decades have TONS of clinical research to prove their relative safety and effectiveness. These NEW legal oral anabolic steroid compounds LACK that fundamental research, and for that reason alone users should be very weary of taking these very powerful steroid hormones.

 

[skaman007]

Re: Why do bros still use Oral illegal AAS when there is legal ones that are stronger

There are several reasons why many people still use ILLEGAL oral anabolic steroids, despite the availability of certain LEGAL oral anabolic steroids.

First and foremost, in my experience many of the LEGAL oral anabolic steroids are actually more detrimental to your health than the ILLEGAL oral anabolics. For example, Superdrol(monsterdrol) is HORRIBLE for both your cholesterol and your liver, while also being very hard on your kidneys. It is also extremely harsh on the HPTA, resulting in severe testicular shutdown. The same is also the case for both Phera-Plex and Trenadrol.

Secondly, many of the legal oral anabolic steroids are now being counterfeited. Just because you are buying a LEGAL product from a LEGAL company, still doesn't mean that you are getting what you are supposed to get. Lots of legal supplement companies are simply NOT putting the actual compounds in the advertised products. You can do a simple search on BB.com and see for yourself that MANY of the legal oral anabolic supplements do NOT actually contain the steroid compounds that they are advertised to contain. The nutritional supplement industry is NOT tightly regulated at all, and only as of 09 are companies required to test both the raw materials and the finished product. As the latest steroid legal bill has been passed, the raw steroid materials are becoming increasingly difficult to source, and as a result, there are many FAKE "clones" circulating the supplement marketplace. So just because you are buying a LEGAL product from a LEGAL company, still doesn't mean that you are getting what you are supposed to get. I know that I have personally used several FAKE BATCHES of Epistane(Havoc), Superdrol, and Halodrol(H-drol).

One must not forget that the precription-grade anabolic steroids that have been used for decades have TONS of clinical research to prove their relative safety and effectiveness. These NEW legal oral anabolic steroid compounds LACK that fundamental research, and for that reason alone users should be very weary of taking these very powerful steroid hormones.

hmmmm thats putting my off my monsterdrol cycle !!!

 

[needtogetaas]

Re: Why do bros still use Oral illegal AAS when there is legal ones that are stronger

There are several reasons why many people still use ILLEGAL oral anabolic steroids, despite the availability of certain LEGAL oral anabolic steroids.
First off its good to have some one worth debating with in this thread. Welcome ross




First and foremost, in my experience many of the LEGAL oral anabolic steroids are actually more detrimental to your health than the ILLEGAL oral anabolics. For example, Superdrol(monsterdrol) is HORRIBLE for both your cholesterol and your liver, while also being very hard on your kidneys. It is also extremely harsh on the HPTA, resulting in severe testicular shutdown. The same is also the case for both Phera-Plex and Trenadrol.

Sense the start of this thread I have heard people say they has been no testing on short or long term effects of these compounds. One says no test have been don yet another says how harsh they are and how they shut you down more then others.... Now what i am wondering is how come everyone knows so damn much about how they shut you down more and have more sides then other steroids with out having test to prove it. But when it comes to if they add muscle mass or work or not we just have to have them tests lololololol....

HMMM you know a few things. Please tell us how lets say monsterdrol a mythel masteron can be any worse on cholesterol then lets say (winny) which is by far the worst on cholesterol. I got test that after just 4 weeks of winny my cholesterol was all fucked up. Yet every ones still talking up winny about how great it is because its a e-legal aas.

Or lets ask how is monsterdrol worse on your HPTA then tren???? Or deca??? We all know these e-legal compounds have been known to shut some fuckers down for life. They require a damn good pct. OOO but yet every one loves them and talks them up like crazy because again they are of course e-legal so they must be good.


Ok lets move on to the liver. Please tell me you are not saying that 20mg ed monsterdrol is fucking up the liver more then the dam 50mg ed dbols 100mg aboms people are blasting out these days.

Secondly, many of the legal oral anabolic steroids are now being counterfeited. Just because you are buying a LEGAL product from a LEGAL company, still doesn't mean that you are getting what you are supposed to get. Lots of legal supplement companies are simply NOT putting the actual compounds in the advertised products. You can do a simple search on BB.com and see for yourself that MANY of the legal oral anabolic supplements do NOT actually contain the steroid compounds that they are advertised to contain. As the latest steroid legal bill has been passed, the raw sterod materials are becoming increasingly difficult to source, and as a result, there are many FAKE "clones" circulating the supplement marketplace. So just because you are buying a LEGAL product from a LEGAL company, still doesn't mean that you are getting what you are supposed to get.

This is so true ross. Being in the business You me and justaddmuscle know this fact more then most people... We are lucky that we have a guys like myself and JAM. I know where the monsterdrol powders come from. Jam had them (tested) for purity by a out side lab and yes that info has been posted for every one to see. Jam knows this is a aspect of the industry and he takes steps do address it and insure that it is not a problem when it comes to the products he sells. Very good point though and I thank you for bringing it up..


Now back to the sides.. Its the same with almost any steroid legal or non legal. They all have sides and some more then others. Its up to the user to know these sides. Take steps to protect them self, asses the risk to gains factor for them self and there goals. Always use in moderation. Always know you body and how to read it, always get blood test don and so on...


Good to have you ross its always a pleasure...

 

[2evil]

Re: Why do bros still use Oral illegal AAS when there is legal ones that are stronger

There are several reasons why many people still use ILLEGAL oral anabolic steroids, despite the availability of certain LEGAL oral anabolic steroids.

First and foremost, in my experience many of the LEGAL oral anabolic steroids are actually more detrimental to your health than the ILLEGAL oral anabolics. For example, Superdrol(monsterdrol) is HORRIBLE for both your cholesterol and your liver, while also being very hard on your kidneys. It is also extremely harsh on the HPTA, resulting in severe testicular shutdown. The same is also the case for both Phera-Plex and Trenadrol.

Secondly, many of the legal oral anabolic steroids are now being counterfeited. Just because you are buying a LEGAL product from a LEGAL company, still doesn't mean that you are getting what you are supposed to get. Lots of legal supplement companies are simply NOT putting the actual compounds in the advertised products. You can do a simple search on BB.com and see for yourself that MANY of the legal oral anabolic supplements do NOT actually contain the steroid compounds that they are advertised to contain. The nutritional supplement industry is NOT tightly regulated at all, and only as of 09 are companies required to test both the raw materials and the finished product. As the latest steroid legal bill has been passed, the raw steroid materials are becoming increasingly difficult to source, and as a result, there are many FAKE "clones" circulating the supplement marketplace. So just because you are buying a LEGAL product from a LEGAL company, still doesn't mean that you are getting what you are supposed to get. I know that I have personally used several FAKE BATCHES of Epistane(Havoc), Superdrol(S-Drol/M-Drol), and Halodrol(H-drol).

One must not forget that the precription-grade anabolic steroids that have been used for decades have TONS of clinical research to prove their relative safety and effectiveness. These NEW legal oral anabolic steroid compounds LACK that fundamental research, and for that reason alone users should be very weary of taking these very powerful steroid hormones.

I've seen these reports of faked OTC steroids. This is very real. I would only buy from trusted companies - not the cheapest - and make sure your stuff has been tested by a third party lab.

Superdrol has been around OTC for what, four years? No doubt it's harsh but I believe it can be run safely (or I wouldn't take it) but it is hard to believe that a 14 year old can walk in to your local "health food store" and buy it.

 

[dabuffguy]

Re: Why do bros still use Oral illegal AAS when there is legal ones that are stronger

There are several reasons why many people still use ILLEGAL oral anabolic steroids, despite the availability of certain LEGAL oral anabolic steroids.

First and foremost, in my experience many of the LEGAL oral anabolic steroids are actually more detrimental to your health than the ILLEGAL oral anabolics. For example, Superdrol(monsterdrol) is HORRIBLE for both your cholesterol and your liver, while also being very hard on your kidneys. It is also extremely harsh on the HPTA, resulting in severe testicular shutdown. The same is also the case for both Phera-Plex and Trenadrol.



Secondly, many of the legal oral anabolic steroids are now being counterfeited. Just because you are buying a LEGAL product from a LEGAL company, still doesn't mean that you are getting what you are supposed to get. Lots of legal supplement companies are simply NOT putting the actual compounds in the advertised products. You can do a simple search on BB.com and see for yourself that MANY of the legal oral anabolic supplements do NOT actually contain the steroid compounds that they are advertised to contain. The nutritional supplement industry is NOT tightly regulated at all, and only as of 09 are companies required to test both the raw materials and the finished product. As the latest steroid legal bill has been passed, the raw steroid materials are becoming increasingly difficult to source, and as a result, there are many FAKE "clones" circulating the supplement marketplace. So just because you are buying a LEGAL product from a LEGAL company, still doesn't mean that you are getting what you are supposed to get. I know that I have personally used several FAKE BATCHES of Epistane(Havoc), Superdrol(S-Drol/M-Drol), and Halodrol(H-drol).

One must not forget that the precription-grade anabolic steroids that have been used for decades have TONS of clinical research to prove their relative safety and effectiveness. These NEW legal oral anabolic steroid compounds LACK that fundamental research, and for that reason alone users should be very weary of taking these very powerful steroid hormones.

Ross,

I'd love for someone to post a study that proves Superdrol and other legal aas is more harsh on the cholesterol, liver, HPTA, etc than the illegal aas. I see so many people say this, but I have not seen 1 study that proves this to be true. "My own personal experience" doesn't count. Unless you ran blod work weekly while using the compound 3 different times in comparison to another illegal aas, then I'd be willing to consider someone's claim of extra harshness. Until then, I don't buy it. It really doesn't make sense.


As far as counterfeiting, I can buy into that argument. I've heard of people using some otc stuff that was either underdosed or just fake. That's why I stick with JAM's monsterdrol. He had it tested by an FDA approved lab to ensure quality. His products are what they say they are and he makes sure of that.

 

[timtim]

Re: Why do bros still use Oral illegal AAS when there is legal ones that are stronger

You where bringing your dad thats bigger than my dad and is a very advanced bodybuilder story into it so I brought Ron Coleman to compare that every one is different. Did you even read my post? No where did I say newbies. I said people that where not maxed out on anabolics and training. Newbies should not use Monsterdrol as it is like barely knowing how to play golf and buying a 5000 set of clubs. You can make gains with much milder compounds and move your way up as you progress.

hes not my dad but he is older, 47. my point was, here is a man on a plethora of everything and was only able to add 3 pounds of actual muscle in 6 weeks. maxed out on drugs, maybe. at his max weight, maybe. but you did say ron coleman gained 40 pounds of muscle in a year, so i could see him putting on more weight than he did. but by what you have said, you could gain 5 times that on 1 compound in 14 fewer days. i just cant see that but like i have said multiple times, i wont bash the product because it seems to work. if it wasnt an oral i would probably try it too. orals just cause too much damage in my opinion. one of the many reasons i would never use winstrol again.

im not here to argue. just discuss claims. lets try and keep things in check. some people may have taken offense to the dad quirk.

 

[2evil]

Re: Why do bros still use Oral illegal AAS when there is legal ones that are stronger

hes not my dad but he is older, 47. my point was, here is a man on a plethora of everything and was only able to add 3 pounds of actual muscle in 6 weeks. maxed out on drugs, maybe. at his max weight, maybe. but you did say ron coleman gained 40 pounds of muscle in a year, so i could see him putting on more weight than he did. but by what you have said, you could gain 5 times that on 1 compound in 14 fewer days. i just cant see that but like i have said multiple times, i wont bash the product because it seems to work. if it wasnt an oral i would probably try it too. orals just cause too much damage in my opinion. one of the many reasons i would never use winstrol again.

im not here to argue. just discuss claims. lets try and keep things in check. some people may have taken offense to the dad quirk.

I think the answer is in your post. He's maxed out on everything. Maybe has been for a while. I don't know.

Anyone gaining appreciable muscle @ 47 y/o is doing damn good. No question.

I think what's been established in this thread is that it's not impossible to gain a pound per day or there abouts in lean tissue. That tissue, like nearly all tissue in the human body, derives most of it's weight in water.

I think if you're a natural trainer and decide on a Monsterdrol cycle you'll experience great results. I also think if you have run cycles consisting of Test and another compound or two here and there and you throw in Monsterdrol on your next cycle then you'll notice it - even if you usually run Dbol.

Just MHO.

 

[Just Add Muscle]

Re: Why do bros still use Oral illegal AAS when there is legal ones that are stronger

hmmmm thats putting my off my monsterdrol cycle !!!

Monsterdrol has been tested by a DEA Approved lab to contain 99.9% pure ingredient and 9.7mg per 10mg cap. The certificate is on the listing.