Why do bros still use Oral illegal AAS when there is legal ones that are stronger.

[needtogetaas]

Re: Why do bros still use Oral illegal AAS when there is legal ones that are stronger

What is the reason for the hangover feeling? I am finishing up my tren/prop, doing my pct and then was going to jump on the monster/cyclo/dermacrine I have had in my cabinet for two months. Is there a way to combat the sleepy/lethargic feeling?

Yes AI's cycle support and lipid stable would be a good start. Shit they would be a good add to any cycle.

 

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Re: Why do bros still use Oral illegal AAS when there is legal ones that are stronger

What is the reason for the hangover feeling? I am finishing up my tren/prop, doing my pct and then was going to jump on the monster/cyclo/dermacrine I have had in my cabinet for two months. Is there a way to combat the sleepy/lethargic feeling?

Lets not kidd ourselfs or forget though. Many many many people get this same feeling from dbol,abombs and others.

Yet I find it funny you never see people jump in a thread and scream. Your killing yourself bro!!!!!!!!!! omg the sides!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Nope they just give them advice on how to deal with them and a reason why it happens. HMMMMMMMMMMM thats funny

 

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Re: Why do bros still use Oral illegal AAS when there is legal ones that are stronger

Can u stack this with TEST? If so, what dosage for Monsterdrol and Trenxxl? I am concerned about diminished liver function though....

If you are going to add them to a reg cycle I would advice to keeping to just one.. Run a reg test cycle say 10 weeks 500mg ew and use monsterdrol as a kick start 20mg ed for 4 weeks. Keep ai's on hand and run a good pct just like with any cycle.

 

[needtogetaas]

Re: Why do bros still use Oral illegal AAS when there is legal ones that are stronger

Its because the "legal" ones are not clinically tested. Besides tren most of the other steroids have been clinically tested on humans. I have tried pro hormones in the past (they really did nothing for me) I have yet to try steroids but have seen them work (I'm waiting for HRT). I have friends that have tried both and they say the legal ones are a waste of money. This is from my experience though, others may have different. But I can only speak from what I know.

Well there is a difference between pro hormones and legal steroids.. The medical world has had there heads up there ass for a pretty long time when it comes to steroids though. This is a pretty well known fact. I mean they first said they don't even work to build muscle. Now they grossly exaggerate long turn side effects when not even a single study has ever really been don on them...

 

[needtogetaas]

Re: Why do bros still use Oral illegal AAS when there is legal ones that are stronger

being a noob has nothing to do with it. im not trying to attack gymrat personally, im just stating that there is no research or studies to prove that these products are harmless. when i use aas, i know exactly what im putting in my body, how much im using, and what effect it will have on me. most of these products are fda approved and regulated. i have absolutly no clue what is in monsterdrol ect.. these products are not approved.

Are you sure about that?

This is true you don't

 

[needtogetaas]

Re: Why do bros still use Oral illegal AAS when there is legal ones that are stronger

I personally would stick to gear that's been proven at least 20 years, even if it was illegal.

Think about how often the prevailing wisdom changes. Just a few years ago HCG was for post-cycle only. Now it's all about maintainance during cycle so the boys don't get as wrecked in the first place. Just 5 years ago (when I started), someone would have been flamed for "wasting perfectly good HCG" by using it on-cycle.

I like time to test my drugs, but maybe I'm just conservative that way.

ANd just a few years back so called experts (dan d) were claming steroids like eq were almost the same as deca. Not long ago the medical world was saying steroids could not be used to build muscle for body builders. Not to long ago people were doing pyramid cycle and no pct. Not to long ago no one new what the hell clen was let alone how to use it for body building. Not to long ago no one was using t-3 gh, and so one..

It almost sounds like you are saying " hay every one come join me in the stone age"...

 

[needtogetaas]

Re: Why do bros still use Oral illegal AAS when there is legal ones that are stronger

If you're an old geezer like me, you just visit an endocrinologist and get a script. My stuff comes compounded straight from the pharmacy. They'll even give you a doctor's note so you can take it on airplanes and stuff!

legal test > all

Well no ones going to argue with that. Not even me.
Not an option for most though.

 

[needtogetaas]

Re: Why do bros still use Oral illegal AAS when there is legal ones that are stronger

b/c the oral illegal ones have many many years worth of valid scientific studies that identify the strengths/weaknesses/risks of these drugs.

these same drugs are still (in general) used medically--i will take a known risk for certain gains vs. largely unknown risks for anecdotal gains

steroid "use" is informed and carefully calculated use steroid abuse is a combination of uninformed use and unknown risks.

Your kidding right? I agree with the last part though. Always have.

 

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Re: Why do bros still use Oral illegal AAS when there is legal ones that are stronger

I don't disagree--there are just some bros (like me) that like the predictability of compounds that have been around for a long time and where there is more than anecdotal evidence to support the claims BUT it is not that I doubt evidence such as bro-ology as it is often all we have to go on--and in my experience many times ahead of the pointy-heads .

This is a very broad statement. If there is anything I have learned its that every one is different and though there is a lot of predictability there is still much unpredictability with each individual user when it comes to almost all compounds.

 

[timtim]

Re: Why do bros still use Oral illegal AAS when there is legal ones that are stronger

LMAO,sorry bro all i could do is laugh at that post. Ronnie Coleman gained 40 lbs of lean muscle in one year. thats 40lbs over his previous Olympia weight on stage. It all depends on the person their ability to gain weight and the drugs being used. For an average joe recreational bodybuilder that knows how to train and eat right 15 lbs of muscle is no big deal in a month. That's some one who has not done a crap load of cycles in the past and is burner out on anabolics. My point is that monsterdrol is quite possibly the most powerful oral anabolic to hit the bodybuilding market period and that 15 lbs of muscle can be gained by an average bodybuilder training and dieting right.

so your products are best used by newbies to training and people still fresh to body transformation? what could someone like myself, into his 20th year of training, expect from such products?

youre a salesman trying to make a sceptic with a valid point seem comical. its alot funnier to listen to someone say 15 pounds of muscle in a month is possible and then try and bring ron coleman into the picture. are you serious? your taking a man in the top 1% in bbing genetics and trying to make a correlation to an average person.