why cant we discuss EF "problems"?

[juiceddreadlocks]

Lets not go down that road please, comments like this dont do anyone any good. I wouldnt say its ignorant, but please remember we all place a different value on things and what I value may have none to you and vice versa. Please lets keep this constructive, what can EF do to increase or give VALUE to the platinum membership?

my apologies....
i bought a three month platinum membership last week, and i think its worth it. The chat feature is convenient, and its nice to get to look at all the pictures that are posted full size.

people that buy gear, supplements, or fitness magazines in general spend a chunk of change on them. It seems the wealth of information on this site would be worth the money.

 

[Juice Authority]

I think that LOT of people, paid or not, are actually quite supportive of the site, and its efforts to generate revenue.

And lets face it - there are a LOT of non-platinum people that contribute a LOT by sharing their knowledge and experience.

I think thats for the most part, most of the "complaints" tend to fall into 2 catagories:

The Search Feature - The handicapped search is ridiculous. It wil be the long-term nail in the coffin for this board, and will drive its quality down. Way way down.

The "Bait and Switch" - This bit of someone becoming platinum, and then they MUST stay platinum FOREVER or else they sacrifice their name, is just wrong. Very wrong. If someone becomes Platinum for like 6 months, and then for some reason they choose to give that up, fine. Sure - go ahead and take away the Platinum priavledges and all - but don't lock their account! Thats just wrong. We have lost a LOT of very good knowledgeable people because of this issue.

Frankly if those 2 issues wree solved, 90% of the gripes would go away. Most of the rest of the bitching is due to unreasonable stuff, like people wanting to ask for prices and sources, and everyone who is responsible would pretty much agree on those issues.

But the 2 items above are what is causing most of the problems, and frankly, preventing many people from recommending this site, and causing many people to leave.

And as for the ads, and the pop-ups, get over it. Anyone dumb enough to believe they can buy DBol from their online Phamacy is clueless, or anyone who bitches about pop-ups when surfing and informative site for free, needs to wake up.

You must work in the finance arena. I'm in finance and bait and switch is a term near and dear to my heart. I agree with you on your first point. The search function should be available to anyone plat or not. The other issue with respect to locking up their account has been resolved I believe. It happened to Drrman, needsize, mvmaxx and some others that decided to cancel their plat membership but I believe EF Sam fixed the problem. I don't think it was malicious. It was just a technical oversight that has been rectified.

 

[chanmanfoo]

there needs to be a way to sign up without a credit card. i just dont feel comfortable with the site having all my personal info on file. lawyer or no lawyer. also regarding non plats complaining, that is not a valid argument, take away all the non plats and this board would be history.
foo

 

[DeepZenPill]

I agree with Riker, I think the main two complaints are the Search restriction and that problem with ex-platinum accounts getting locked.

My only gripe was with the search limit because I don't like to feel like I'm being forced to join as platinum. I mean the best posts are already moved to the Best of Elite in the platinum section, so there's already a limit on what people would search for. Why even further restrictions?

Maybe for plat members expand on current features offered to the board. Like the free web sites for example. Normal users get 3mb of space, what about increasing that size for platinum members? This really shouldn't be too big of a hit on disk space since not nearly all members will actually make a web site, but for those that do it could be beneficial.

Ok maybe that last suggestion is a little weak, but I'm sure someone else more creative than me will think of something good.

 

[Zyglamail]

I can understand that due to the nature of the board people would like to keep their identity on the down low and using a CC may not be ideal. On the other hand making one lump sum payment doesnt always work for many either and I know for me sending in the payment monthly would be a big pain in the butt. Not to mention the manpower it takes to babysit the flow of payments from administration point of view. Can you guys think of any other payment methods that would be aceptable to you?

 

[halfaclue]

IS paypal discrete? I've never used it???

 

[IronLion]

god these threads are getting old

 

[Wrongun]

there needs to be a way to sign up without a credit card. i just dont feel comfortable with the site having all my personal info on file. lawyer or no lawyer. also regarding non plats complaining, that is not a valid argument, take away all the non plats and this board would be history.
foo

I sent my payment for premium elitefitness mail in cash.

Obviously for a monthly subscription this may be time consuming for both sender and reciever unless you pay annually. I have to say when i contacted GS he was fione and issued the addy for me to send funds

Wrongun!

 

[DepressiveJuice]

IS paypal discrete? I've never used it???

no. i've gotten my CC account stolen three times. one of those time was when i used paypal. there is NO such thing as "secure" on the net.

 

[Fukkenshredded]

I have more bandwidth than I know what to do with. Zyg...if GS needs bandwitdh cheap, or anyone else for that matter, email me and lets discuss it.

I have access to 5 T1s as well (they are not mine personally, they are all co-owned).

You guys are way overestimating the price of this site, believe me.

If GS is paying that much, we can negotiate a deal for me to support this entire site right now for much, much less than the kind of money people are talking.