why cant we discuss EF "problems"?

[Zyglamail]

bandwidth for this site is not 3/4 of a million. Up until recently it crawled and now the posts are all mixed up in different orders.

Well, the speed of the boards is not the only indication of the amount of traffic nor the cost of the traffic. They slowness up until now was due to the system running the site couldnt handle the load, but the load was similar then as it is now except George had to kick out 10's of thousands of dollars to upgrade hardware to handle the traffic.

No offense to anyone, but these petty arguements are the exact reasons these threads get done away with. Someone who works/or worked for At&t states what they saw another site pay for bandwidth and he is called a liar by people who have no concept of what the data transmissions even cost. Is 750k a year more than what GS pays? I cant say for sure but I know its a hell of a lot more money than most of you think.

As for what you get by going platinum, you get an enhanced search feature as well as the monthly cost of plat membership off of suppliment purchased through the EF store, Platinum Chat etc. Now for some that may not be worth signing up, and thats fine, no one is holding a gun to your head and telling you to pay up, but at the same time stop whining about something you dont pay anything for. If some people would put as much effort into lifting as they do complaining about something thats free, they would get their pro card in 6 months.

 

[halfaclue]

$750,000 to run a bodybuilding board? You're joking right?

No...go to CDW and see how much a 100Mg server is...just 1 of them....then go to www.att.com and enter a business name and a bogus e-mial and you can see quotes for bandwidth. I'm not saying the bandwidth costs $750,000...I'm saying the bandwidth, the routers, load balancers, servers, mail servers, gig cabable cards. I'm not pulling numbers out of the air. Go look on technology sites. A 100Mg Sun server which is small, is 44K...that is what we recommend for a company with 100 users. You are talking about top technology that it costs to run these sites at the speed they are. You think it is slow at times...remember ever character you type is stored. Every space, period, coma...and that smiley faces that move and laugh and cry all take up a ton. Look at a post with 100 replies and all those icons. Copy and past that into a word document and tell me what your computer says it is for memory. that is one post still going with 100 replies. I don't want this to look like my guess as to what it could cost...my guess is how big the site is...but from what I KNOW, if it is this big 3/4 of a milliion a year is not as much as you think compared to sites like GM who spend 20 Million a year for theirs and that is just bandwidth...NO EQUIPMENT AT ALL.

 

[Machiavellian Muscle]

I give up...

 

[Zyglamail]

Hey Zyg I didn't start the thread just responding to what I think is bs. I can voice my opinion, no? By the way, I also work in the industry so I am well versed in the cost running a site like this and I doubt the bandwidth is anything close to 3/4 million a year. How many active users to we have a t time, not entirely that many right? We are not pushing out incredible amounts of data in the forms of mpeg, jpegs etc. You seem like an intellegent guy and you too know this. Who cares anyway, just funny how someone says they work for AT&T and they know the price we have to agree. By the way did I mention I am not complaining...

He posted a little clarification likely while you were responding. I never said you couldnt disagree but as I also said, none of us really know how much data or the cost to move the data is and likely we never will. With that in mind argueing about it is silly and simply causes more contention and gets us nowhere.

Now, what I would like to suggest is that if anyone has constructive critisim then please add it. Let me start by asking this simple question.

What would it take for you to go platinum? Would you go platinum if the fee was cut in half? What additional features or benefits would make you more likely to go platinum?

Since this thread is here, Lets turn it into something constructive that can be presented to GS.

 

[juiceddreadlocks]

its pretty ignorant to say that you dont get anything for your money by going platinum.

 

[Zyglamail]

its pretty ignorant to say that you dont get anything for your money by going platinum.

Lets not go down that road please, comments like this dont do anyone any good. I wouldnt say its ignorant, but please remember we all place a different value on things and what I value may have none to you and vice versa. Please lets keep this constructive, what can EF do to increase or give VALUE to the platinum membership?

 

[drrman]

oh well, hell with it, i still think people should be allowed to voice their oppinions about things, and if we are irrational and out of line we should be called out on it. If every mod handled situations like zyg has done this one i personally would be much happier, but some are too apt to just lock and or delete and be done with it. Props to zyg for at least opening up our eyes a bit and letting us think about both ends of the argument

 

[Dougly]

How about a 3 day 'sneak peek' at Plat? I've heard how tough it is to cancel Plat., I'm not about to sign up only to find the same info as every other board on the net.

 

[Machiavellian Muscle]

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What would it take for you to go platinum

Most people pay for these types of services on credit cards etc. I personally don't like have my real name address etc associated w/my user name. Not that I am being shady, just cautious. Also for me to cut a money order each month is obsurd, nonetheless pay a full year upfront. I enjoy what I get for free and I am content for now.

I support EF indirectly by shopping through their sponsors who directly pay EF for advertising space. So I am not platnum, but I help out in other ways I guess...

 

[drrman]

well DTOX in their defense no other board is nearly this big, but a small program from www.downloads.com called pop up blocker works nicely to stop all the bullshit