why cant we discuss EF "problems"?

[drrman]

everyone who posted on this thread is BANNED....LOL

 

[Riker29]

By the way, one more thing,

The "Resources" at the bottom of the page .... something should be done.

I know that the board wants to sell ad space, and have affiliations. That makes sense. But to tell guys that they cannot discuss sources, and to ban people that do, and to be SO concerned with security, and then to blatantly have ads that say "Buy Dianabol" is confusing (to say the least) for new guys, and just wrong.

And hey, lets gets real here - we know that most of those places selling stuff in the "resources" area are rip-offs. To say "well, see ... uh .... those ads are fed from Google so we take no responsibility for them .." is sticking your head in the sand. We KNOW they are BS, we KNOW that they are misleading, we KNOW that they confuse people, we KNOW that they violate the very policies of the board with respect to advertising gear ... its wrong.

This is about customer service. The people that run this board probably laugh at those ads themselves, but continue to let them stay up, knowing that they are deceiving and confusing to customers.

For the board to allow such ads brings into question ALL of the info presented here. I mean, if the board will allow a BS ad, where we know that the product is BS or that people will be ripped off - then to what degree are customers to believe the "Reports" that they can buy from George? How about the "Steroid Truth" ebook?

I mean - there is a BS ad that we KNOW is BS, on a page, where you can also buy a book which is telling you "The Truth"? How is the new customer to believe that “The Truth" is not as “Truthful” as the ad to "Buy Dianabol"?

Having those ads up will increase short-term revenue, but at the expense of customer loyalty, and the level of “respect” that people have for the board and its owners (and the info they provide, like in The Reports). As the customer loyalty drops, as the Brand Name of “Elite” erodes, and as more and more people leave (especially the experienced guys) then slowly but surely, the revenue, long-term, will drop.

 

[Riker29]

everyone who posted on this thread is BANNED....LOL

You bastard, I had a mouthful of coffee when I read that, and its now all over my desk from laughing.

LOL, Thanks. That was great.

 

[manny78]

What would lead me to be a paying member?
Exclusive features.
I´d like to be able to acess full texts scientific studies like the ones in "Steroids" journal, but others as well, as jama, nejm, jap, ijsn, etc...Medline, mdconsult and so many others have institutional access , and each platinum member would have a password.
I´d like to read exclusive interviews with famous bbuilding related authors and pros, as well as chat with them on specific dates ..You can allow 20 or 30 members on each chat, and others could watch...
I´d like to have special discounts on supplements.
And why is it platinum or nothing? Why not silver, gold and platinum, and rank the prices according to the benefits?
Simply it is not clear, now, that you´ll be able to get REALLY EXCLUSIVE BENEFITS by becoming platinum.

Kudos to Zyglamail for being democratic and listen to people.

good ideas but Plat members already have a discount on orders of 100$ and + at www.elitefitnessnutrition.com

 

[manny78]

For those who have no access to a credit card or just wish to remain anonymous, you can pay through Money Order.

 

[George Spellwin]

well zyg, since i have given over 200 bucks to this site, i feel as if i should be able to voice my oppinion anywhere i want.

second, if these threads are moved to the mod forums, no ONE has ever explained this to me, most i have seen one mod in particular(manny) just locks it and puts the link to become platinum. sort of shitty in my book

Third, i feel as if i have a leg to stand on due to my donations this board in general. I know its not all the mods, and you know i have always had the greatest respect for you and was always a supporter of your previous site you had running. I just feel as if this board is getting too commercialized. You can't tell me george is not getting banked off of this fucking site, all the advertising, all the platinum memberships, its just getting all to bullshit.

Ask people even as big andy, they can't take much more of this shit either. People like him who are smarter than % of the people on here aren't platinum, and you think he will pay? no, we'll just lose him and many others. Some problems need to be brought out, and they have to be.

You mention publishing a magazine, well even in those they have call in numbers and letters to the editor, suggestion pages etc? what do we have, just the ability to make a quick post to watch manny and some other power tripping mods lock it down? I have seen magazines publish complaints about their mags numerous times, and i've seen them criticize the complaints and i've seen them fix the problems.

You know yourself their are some problems on here that need to be fixed, and just moving it all to the mod forums isnt' the answer, the largest population hangs out here so why can't we all read it? thats like saying all complaints for men's fitness will published only in a corporate journal that no reader can read? every published magazine, bulletin board or whatever is open to criticism and this board is no different. The problem here is the owners are too goddamn busy trying to get rich and don't care about the problems!

DDR,

You make some good points and I appreciate them -- I also appreciate your support of the site as a Platinum Member.

Would you and everyone do the following -- send me the URL of posts that were locked wrongly in your opinion, and I will look at them personally. But, I need the URL, not the topic of the thread.

I mostly read and participate on the Platinum Hardcore board -- I like the slower pace. So that's a good place to post your comments and concerns. One last thing to remember, I cannot read every post on the boards -- no one can -- there are just too many. Some people think that I am able to read everything, but I cannot. So send me an email, tell a mod, or best, post on Platinum Hardcore.

 

[George Spellwin]

mrpg13, I'm wondering the same thing as depressive juice. I considered going platinum but why? You don't get anything for your money. Just because people don't throw their money away doesn't make them cheap bro.

That's not exactly correct. You get

Platinum Search! The largest archive in the world!
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Access the Private Platinum Discussion Boards!
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And more. We hope you will join.

 

[George Spellwin]

bandwidth for this site is not 3/4 of a million. Up until recently it crawled and now the posts are all mixed up in different orders.

Quite right. And the former problem cost us lots of money to fix and the later will too. Bottom line -- this site costs money to run -- lots of it.

 

[George Spellwin]

What would lead me to be a paying member?
Exclusive features.
1. I´d like to be able to acess full texts scientific studies like the ones in "Steroids" journal, but others as well, as jama, nejm, jap, ijsn, etc...Medline, mdconsult and so many others have institutional access , and each platinum member would have a password.
2. I´d like to read exclusive interviews with famous bbuilding related authors and pros, as well as chat with them on specific dates ..You can allow 20 or 30 members on each chat, and others could watch...
3. I´d like to have special discounts on supplements.
4. And why is it platinum or nothing? Why not silver, gold and platinum, and rank the prices according to the benefits?
Simply it is not clear, now, that you´ll be able to get REALLY EXCLUSIVE BENEFITS by becoming platinum.

Kudos to Zyglamail for being democratic and listen to people.

Great post Rio 2001,

This is what we need -- ways we can make the site better. Comments.

1. Great idea -- any ideas on how we could do this?

2. We have a great chat room and we could schedule chats here -- I have wanted to do this for a long time. Who would you like to chat with in particular?

3. We do this now -- Each month you get an $11.97 Platinum Discount Coupon for EliteFitnessNutrition.com discount brand-name supplements! Order once a month and your membership's free -- if you order more than that, it's like were paying you to be Platinum.

4. I'm not sure we could have cheaper memberships. It's only $8.98 a month when you join for 3 months and get one month free. That's the cost of a movie and most folks spend much more than 2 hours here each month.

 

[George Spellwin]

That right there is the EXACT reason I've never become platinum.

Send in a Money Order with just your boards name.

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P.O. Box 1264
New York, NY 10113-1264

For example, Platinum Membership 6 months + 3 months Free!