why cant we discuss EF "problems"?

[Riker29]

Encouraging our most active members to become assets instead of liabilities is the only way we will be able to grow and stay around for years to come.

Assets instead of liabilities? Excuse me?

Wow - thats quite a mindset to have regarding persons who may contribute their time and knowledge, patronize your vendors, recommend other people join the site, but yet have not turned platinum.

Liabilities? Wow.

I think many of the suggestions you are seeing are people making honest attempts to help. Its quite a shame that these persons, unless they are Platinum, are considered to be "liabilities".

I am among the first to realize and state to people that this board has every right to generate revenue. I tend to think that long-term revenue is being lessened for the sake of short-term gain, but thats your decision.

But to make that statement above is probably not the best thing for customer relations. After all, most people dont join up as Platinum on Day 1 anyway, and to hear they are "liabilities" until they do is probably not the best thing for Customer Relations. LOL

 

[The Terminator]

Assets instead of liabilities? Excuse me?

Wow - thats quite a mindset to have regarding persons who may contribute their time and knowledge, patronize your vendors, recommend other people join the site, but yet have not turned platinum.

Liabilities? Wow.

I think many of the suggestions you are seeing are people making honest attempts to help. Its quite a shame that these persons, unless they are Platinum, are considered to be "liabilities".

That was exactly what I was thinking. Nothing but liabilities....

 

[benevolent anarchist]

I agree; Liability is pretty harsh choice of words. In business we prefer term burden. Every employee creates a certain burden on the company—usually it’s our half of social security payments or the company’s part of the employees’ health insurance plan. Sure an employee contributes as well by showing up to work.

So I think what George is trying to convey is that everyone who frequents this site creates a financial burden to the owners. Weather or not such people invest more than they receive is another story altogether.

 

[George Spellwin]

Assets instead of liabilities? Excuse me?

Wow - thats quite a mindset to have regarding persons who may contribute their time and knowledge, patronize your vendors, recommend other people join the site, but yet have not turned platinum.

Liabilities? Wow.

I think many of the suggestions you are seeing are people making honest attempts to help. Its quite a shame that these persons, unless they are Platinum, are considered to be "liabilities".

I am among the first to realize and state to people that this board has every right to generate revenue. I tend to think that long-term revenue is being lessened for the sake of short-term gain, but thats your decision.

But to make that statement above is probably not the best thing for customer relations. After all, most people dont join up as Platinum on Day 1 anyway, and to hear they are "liabilities" until they do is probably not the best thing for Customer Relations. LOL

Dave,

I understand how you feel.

The unfortunate fact of the matter is that while we are all appreciative of the "time and knowledge" that our members spend here, it is that very time spent here and all the sharing that makes the site expensive to run.

I think some bros cannot see the difference between being a "good member" of our community and being a "supporter" of the community. A good member is one who helps others, contributes thoughtful posts, abides by the terms of service, and adds to the wealth of information here. Elite wants as many good members as we can get -- because they make the boards the vibrant community that they are. However, the fact of the matter is that the more good members we have the more expensive the site is to run. Merely being a good member does nothing to ensure that the Elite community will have a viable future.

Please accept my apologies. It was certainly not my intention to hurt your feelings. Of course good members are assets to our community, but only those members that actively support this community are assets on our balance sheet.

 

[Dougly]

Would a Platinum member please re-post my idea about a free trial while I show myself to the door?

 

[George Spellwin]

I think the free trial is a good idea -- and we may have our programmers look at it. They are working on other issues at the moment like the posting issue.

But let's remember, we are only talking about $8.98 a month -- it's not a big risk if you do not like it.

 

[Johnny Cut]

well if u dont like it and get rid of it can your account be restored to normal status or do u have to create a new handle?

 

[variation]

It's true, $8.98 a month is very little, I have considered going platnium a few times, I'm interested in some of the benefits and would like to support this site, since it's good... and I've learned alot here. I must admit when I first joined I got the impression that this site was very money-oriented and noticed that almost any piece of information George Spellwin gives out also contains some way for him to make money

but what kept me here is the great members this site has (both platnium and non-platnium) there is alot of good here...

Anyway someday I may go platnium the reason I have not, is well I don't have alot of money right now, I could afford it but I have priorities, and I would still keep those priorities over almost anything at the time being... until I get a new job and am settled I will just have to go on like I am now.

Great site George Spellwin.