why cant we discuss EF "problems"?

[DeepZenPill]

IS paypal discrete? I've never used it???

There are ways to fund your paypal account without providing real personal information, but you have to send money to third parties which ends up costing you much more.

Then there's all the shit that PayPal has been accused of: stealing money from peoples' accounts, closing accounts while money is still in them, etc.

 

[Zyglamail]

no. i've gotten my CC account stolen three times. one of those time was when i used paypal. there is NO such thing as "secure" on the net.

This is going a bit off topic, but no CC details are are sent to the receiver of your funds via paypal. Paypal itself processes the card and moves funds into your paypal account and from there they get sent to recipeint. Did you ever log into paypal when directed to by an e-mail? There are many scams going on where e-mails direct you to log into paypal but the link in the e-mail doesnt actually take you to paypal but a different, identicle looking site, and once you log in, they have your password and can log into your real paypal account and rob you blind.

 

[halfaclue]

I have more bandwidth than I know what to do with. Zyg...if GS needs bandwitdh cheap, or anyone else for that matter, email me and lets discuss it.

I have access to 5 T1s as well (they are not mine personally, they are all co-owned).

You guys are way overestimating the price of this site, believe me.

If GS is paying that much, we can negotiate a deal for me to support this entire site right now for much, much less than the kind of money people are talking.

I agree...if the site was small enough to use 5 T1.5's it would be much cheaper....that is only 7.5MGs of bandwidth...I get 1.1MGs to my house through road runner.....7.5 is nothing.

 

[Riker29]

I sent my payment for premium elitefitness mail in cash.

Obviously for a monthly subscription this may be time consuming for both sender and reciever unless you pay annually. I have to say when i contacted GS he was fione and issued the addy for me to send funds

Wrongun!

You know what?

I think if THAT option was advertised (but maybe required a 6 month minimum payment or something, so that EF staff does not have to deal with too many administrative headaches),

and if the Search was fixed (let non-Plat peopl serach for god's sake ...),

and if the issue of people losing their accounts when downgrading from Platinum was fixed,


I think you would see a LOT of revenue generated AND the quality of the board stay up.

You would ALSO fix 80-90% of the "problems" and bitching, and actually have people PROMOTING this board everywhere (instead of putting it down and trash talking it all over the place).

 

[kronk]

$750,000 to run a bodybuilding board? You're joking right?

Actually, it costs us over $4,000 a month to our ISP for everything we operate. x 12, thats $48,000 a year. Now thats just operation to RUN the website at the ISP. That doesnt include hardware costs and such. Elite just upgraded hardware by over $17,000.

 

[kronk]

It happened to Drrman, needsize, mvmaxx and some others that decided to cancel their plat membership but I believe EF Sam fixed the problem.

Yep

 

[Lestat]

At least those are reasonable figures.. that 750,000 was just insame.. i don't care how much bogus triple threat you sell.. you're not going to make enough to cover that.

 

[Zyglamail]

Bump for more CONSTRUCTIVE input. I see more threads popping up with complaints. If you dislike the way things are currently setup, now is your chance to offer us an alternative. Please no rants, we know some people dont like things as they sit so no sense stating as much, however if you have ideas, suggestions etc on what can be done to imporve EF or what kind of services could be added to make going platinum "worthwhile" for you, please chime in.

 

[drrman]

I tell you what would help zyg, is more mods like you who will actually listen instead of just locking the thread and putting the link for platinum!

 

[Riker29]

Bump for more CONSTRUCTIVE input.

I very much understand that this board is a business, or at least part of one – and its purpose is to generate revenue, NOT provide a charitable service. I sincerely believe that the suggestions below will INCREASE revenue by providing a better user experience, and encourage directly or indirectly, more persons to convert to paid membership.

• Stop the bait and switch - allow someone who was platinum to downgrade back to a regular account (and keep their EF screen name). Maybe EF Sam fixed this with several guys’ accounts, but it still seems that the "standard" method is to not allow people to downgrade. That’s just wrong.
  
• Search - Limiting the search for non-Platinum is very very very short-sighted and will be the end of the board's quality.
  
• Payment - Make it easy for anyone concerned with privacy to pay through alternative means, allow for cash payments, Paypal, etc. If the administrative issues (too much paperwork and manual bookkeeping tasks) are prohibitive, then maybe require a minimum of 3 or 6 months membership with these payment options. And again, allow people to downgrade if they wish to stop being Platinum.
  
• Board Policing - Tell, and authorize the Mods, to be more strict in terms of watching the boards. Anyone who shows themselves to be under 18 - kick and BAN them. Any thread on the AS board which is NOT about AS or training - move it immediately.
  
• Avatars and Signatures – The size of some of these are outright ridiculous. (I may be wrong, because admittedly I turned off viewing of all of this crap long ago, so I don’t know if size restrictions have been placed on these files.) One female Mod use to have this garish, awful, animated GIF that was like 200—300k in size. That was in her signature! That's ridiculous! The file size of avatars and signatures should be limited. They should be VERY limited for non-Plat members (if allowed at all) and even for Platinum members, they should be lowered to a smaller, more reasonable size. This will lessen the burden on the servers and increase the perceived “speed” as experienced by the user.
  
• Blatant Advertising of Other Boards – How many times have you seen this “Hey bros, check out my new board?” This is insane and I cant believe that bros do this, and that it is allowed. And frankly the number of people who advertise other boards in their signatures is out of hand. I am sure this opinion of mine will be unpopular, but I see far too many people that are simply using Elite as a way to advertise for their own boards. Every once in a while, if an alternative board is mentioned in the body of a post, fine. But these dudes who have “hey check out these other 2 boards” in their sig is a bit blatant. (Again – sorry guys, nothing personal, these recommendations are about business.)
  
• Board Rules Sticky Permanently Anchored to the top of the page – Create it, review it, keep it updated, highlight it, make it obvious. Make full disclosure of what is allowed and not allowed and make it VERY VERY obvious, so that when someone breaks the rules, their will be little argument and drama.