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Who Would You Die For ?
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There is nothing wrong with standing up for people or beliefs, but death is not glamorous. It doesn't matter what you're doing when you are killed, it is brutal and devastating. It's not your death that has meaning, it's the life you lived that has meaning. In the end, the people that knew you will celebrate your life, not death.
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BrothaBill
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perkele said:
Its not a question of wanting to die, its a question of what would you die for. We say Freedom, Im just defending my position and saying your position cannot be defended. Its the difference between a European attitude and an American attitude. Europeans like the French and Germans and others criticize the US and Bush but they lack the backbone to stand for Freedom like Bush has against the axis of evil. Like Iraq, Iran and North Korea. Its what I was trying to explain what being a neocon is all about. Its about standing up for a moral foreign policy throughout the world. Thats why we went to war with Iraq, b/c its about freedom. Not to pick on you, just a good way to illustrate my point.
'The coward dies a thousand deaths, the brave but one,'" but they cannot remember who said it; regardless, Catherine thinks the brave "'dies perhaps two thousand deaths if he's intelligent. He simply doesn't mention them.'"
Analysis:
The quote Henry refers to is from Shakespeare's play "Julius Caesar," and reads correctly as "Cowards die many times before their deaths; / The valiant never taste of death but once" (II.ii.32-33). The quote exemplifies Henry's quiet bravery in the face of danger; unlike the blustery Ettore, Henry handles complications in his life with calmness and assurance, like Caesar. However, Henry does not know that Caesar spoke the quote, and thus he does not realize the implicit irony - Caesar is murdered soon after he makes this profound statement. For the reader who catches this allusion, disaster looms on the horizon for Henry and Catherine.
Still, they are a close-knit team, and her pregnancy only temporarily rattles Henry when he admits he feels somewhat trapped. In the developing theme of loyalty, Henry and Catherine pledge to remain loyal to each other, for, as Catherine points, it is the two of them versus the world.
We fight and die so that you may remain free. USA for USA. We'll find the dickless slobs hang them by the scrotum, lets end the terrorism. 9-11 was a wake up call. A call to arms. We were attacked, a bigger attack than Pearl Harbor. Thats why we went to war, why the war on terror. Does anyone not get it yet??
Tinytank was referring to William Wallace's memorable quote by Mel Gibson in the movie Braveheart. You belittled him by saying he watches too many movies. I say he watched just enough and perhaps you havent watched enough yet
I AM William Wallace! And I see a whole army of my country men, here, in defiance of tyranny. You've come to fight as free men, and free men you are. What will you do with that freedom? Will you fight?
Soldier: Against that? No, we'll run, and we'll live.
William Wallace: Aye, fight and you may die, run, and you'll live... at least a while. And dying in your beds, many years from now, would you be willin' to trade ALL the days, from this day to that, for one chance, just one chance, to come back here and tell our enemies that they may take away our lives, but they'll never take... OUR FREEDOM!
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BrothaBill
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perkele said:
As long as their our people out there that want to destroy us, our country, everything America stands for then there will always be people that are evil and the war will continue. IS there any other way?? I dont know if you know this yet but these people. They arent going to go away no matter how much you want to stick your head in the sand. People like Osama Bin Laden are out there, they are real. Real as you or I, flesh and blood and they want to destroy the US, the western way of life, everything we hold near and dear. They want to kill you, they want to kill your mother, your father, your family, everything you hold near and dear b/c they think you and us are infidels. If you wouldnt be willing to die for that, the well, I guess youre just missing my fucking point altogether now arent you??? Its about FREEDOM, some of us are willing to die for that. Its better to live life on your feet than to die on your knees like the Europeans advocate. Thats what we are talking about. We have no choice but to fight, its a matter of understanding reality. A neocon is a liberal mugged by reality, thats what Im saying. Never mind, I doubt you'll ever get it.
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