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spatterson said:



On a similar note, I've only seen a tushy shot of NYM...and while some may argue that this is no different than his face shot, I can only vouch for the quality of the bottom half. :)


yeah yeah keep it up and i may show you more...

:p
 
missyd143 said:
actually my diet has been goin good and im happy with my body bu i kno i can get more ripped...i think i should just eat 4 meals instead of 5 or 6 cause
1) i have no time
2) i been eating 6 mini meals for 1 year--doesn't make a difference

well i dont kno how beneficial it will be to continue eatiing 6 meals but i dont think that eating 4 meals will hinder my progress will it?

You dont neccessarily have to eat 6 meals, and also a simple one gulp protein shake about 60gms of whey in skim milk or water you can count as a meal...it doesnt have to be some huge meal to be a meal.
I eat a solid meal then a shake then solid then shake, soild then shake..its easy that way.
 
missyd143 said:
I have nothing productive to say, and have nothing to ask that I haven't asked before. It is inconsiderate of me to waste the time and talents of others who are so knowledgeable and willing to rush to my aid. I use people because I think it's fun. I should just stick to doing searches, as all my questions have been answered. If I have a new question I should start a thread about it rather than turning every thread in to a personal quest to find my 6-pack.

I REST MY CASE!! (PS - I know what her MORONIC comments were before you so prudently edited them.)

Thank you Spat! THANK YOU!! I am not worthy! I bow to you!

Hehehehwoehwoehowhehhahahahhehaeoaheoahahhaaa
 
missyd143 said:
I have nothing productive to say, and have nothing to ask that I haven't asked before. It is inconsiderate of me to waste the time and talents of others who are so knowledgeable and willing to rush to my aid. I use people because I think it's fun. I should just stick to doing searches, as all my questions have been answered. If I have a new question I should start a thread about it rather than turning every thread in to a personal quest to find my 6-pack.

ok spatts and bmom this shit is uncalled for..picking on a what..19 yr old?

bravo


i refuse to give up on this girl.
 
"Temple - yes i do think with my penis way to often, just like you do buddy :p "

and mine is bigger than yours



"Missdy - yes you are right, most guys would prefer britney spears over these ladies you see posted on here, thats a fact, Britney is one of the top sex symbols on the WORLD, thats not opinion...but many women on here get bitter when they see people saying shes so pretty because #1 shes so damn young and #2 shes so skinny..so they start talking nonsense about *how she must starve herself*.....so in their OPINION just like MINE with these other girls...they think shes not hot or ugly etc...but its ok for them to talk shit but not me...RIGHT....communists.."

I have no problem with MissyD wanting to look like Brittany - she is a beautiful girl. The issue that I have is when someone comes here and in one breath is saying that she doesn't want to look like us because we all use AAS and look manly and in the next is asking us for advice.
 
bikinimom said:


You FUCKING MORON - you couldn't look like that IF YOUR LIFE DEPENDED ON IT. Do you know why? Because you are too LAZY and STUPID.

Hey, sweetie you're scaring me :bawling: you feeling ok bmom, you are usual not this blunt. We all know the deal with her, but some newbies might be lurking and get a bit put off.

In school did you ever have a really nice teacher get mad and yell at the class for the first time and it scared the sh*t outta you. That's what I'm feeling now.:D
 
Temple01 said:


I have no problem with MissyD wanting to look like Brittany - she is a beautiful girl. The issue that I have is when someone comes here and in one breath is saying that she doesn't want to look like us because we all use AAS and look manly and in the next is asking us for advice.

Hey ive gotten advice from pros in the past but no way in hell would i want to look like them, not if you paid me...just becuase she doesnt like the way you ladies look doesnt mean she wouldnt take advice from you ladies on DIETING not drug use to get bigger. The last pro who gave me advice was Dennis James, reallllll nice guy, whould i EVER want to look like that? oh hellll no.:D
 
BronzedGoddess said:


Hey, sweetie you're scaring me :bawling: you feeling ok bmom, you are usual not this blunt. We all know the deal with her, but some newbies might be lurking and get a bit put off.

What a good point. just like the post that new@ made about talking down to muscle girls that BMOM herself threw in my face...well wasnt it new@ or someone else who also made a post that we need to stop scaring these newbies away from posting? :confused:

I have gotten 4 pms in the last 2 hours from people who need soem diet advuce but are PETRIFIED to ask here on the board, becuase of shit liek this....they told me this.
 
bikinimom said:


You FUCKING MORON - you couldn't look like that IF YOUR LIFE DEPENDED ON IT. Do you know why? Because you are too LAZY and STUPID.

Ok Missy may not take this like a challenge BUT I DO...missy i dont give a shit how long it will take....you will look like some of these girls or better......minus the ugly face :D

you are my new prospect for the next few years.

oh hell yeah..
 
spatterson said:
Lobo, could you refresh my memory, again, as to why we can't delete her even though we've already confirmed her as a duplicate ID?

:)

Really, ya don't say, a DUPLICATE id....hmmmmmm
you mean everyone has been busting their ass helping someone who doesn't really exist......
 
Temple01 said:


Really, ya don't say, a DUPLICATE id....hmmmmmm
you mean everyone has been busting their ass helping someone who doesn't really exist......

She exists alright..lives not too far from me and im gonna get her ass in the gym and see exactly what shes doing right or wrong.

Ms Fitness Olympia 2010, here we come!!

:D :D
 
NY Muscle said:


She exists alright..lives not too far from me and im gonna get her ass in the gym and see exactly what shes doing right or wrong.

Ms Fitness Olympia 2010, here we come!!

:D :D

That's cool of you NY Muscle, I admire you for that. A man that likes a challenge......gotta love that!
 
BronzedGoddess said:


That's cool of you NY Muscle, I admire you for that. A man that likes a challenge......gotta love that!

I used to train this one girl at this gym about 5+ years ago, she was CLUELESS, wanted help and asked me...i said "look i wont even waste my time training you and giving you a diet plan if you wont listen to EVERY SINGLE WORD I say and not even blink when I say it, do it and do not question it" I told her if shes not ready for 110% commitment and trust in my knowledge then to not waste my time and to go pay one of the 145lb anorexic male *trainers* to train her who have clients that look no different than they did 2-3 yrs ago.

I refuse to train a person and if they dont follow what i tell them and look like shit, thats a reflection on me and my training ability and knowledge, and i turn down people all the time, maybe not the best business decision, but I just refuse to take on people like that. I refer people all the time to my friends who are also trainers and will waste their time with these people.

Anyway back to her.she gave me her word shed do as i said and not even change it one bit........she lost 30lbs then starting getting real hard an lean, full 6 pack, this girl was like a new person, she'd jump at every opportunity to show me her abs, this is the same girl who'd wear baggy sweat pants and sweat shirt to cover up just one year before. Now she herself is a trainer and does shows....she looks great!

I just hope missy listens to me, she has too many people telling her shit...her Mom actually told her walking on the treadmill is a waste... I mean how many young girls take what their mothers say as gospel? a lot!
 
WOW, this tread too a turn now didn't it :)

Ok, here is some observations from someone who loves muscle and loves looking and being a woman... When I was younger (the late 80's) I loved watching female bodybuilding when it was on television. However, that was the time when it did get out of controll - and don't think many out there would dispute that. I would have never said at that time that I wanted to look like a majority of the Female BB that were competing then, of course, that it A Lot different now.

That being said, There is a huge "fettish" market on the Internet and else were for those that like the masive female bodybuilders. We are just begining seeing the mainstream media start to seek out the Athletes for their athleticism (i hope a spelled that right) instead of th freak show status that was so heavy promoted in the past. There will always be those who are really into the Nicole Bass look at her largest, but that look is being replaced a more realistic athlete - I hope that makes sense. Hopefully more photographers will seek ALL sizes and shapes for BB and Fitness competitors in stead of Massive and Harsh looking women who are not the norm - Yaz B. - Profession Bodybuilder, very semetrical, pretty face - just look at here out of season pics to get a good perspective of how competion diet changes the look and how temporary it is.

And, dare I say that lets not forget that these women are NOT Revlon models, they are ATHLETES!!!! And, god love'em, not all of people are blessed with the natural beauty and the natural genetics to be the best BB in the country. But, those are the REAL freaks of nature LOL. Some are, and I wish I was one of them.

But lets not forget why we do this. We are athletes, we love and respect our bodies, and we do if for ourselves. Not everyone understands it, respects, or wants to marry it. But who cares, Life is a one shot deal and you better live it the way YOU want to.

Have a great day.
Kat

BTW: NY Muscle was a bit harsh, but hell, sometimes I just think he is funny, and he has a lot of great advice and info that has helped me so much, and Bikini Mom is still my HOTTIE MOMMA :)
 
kat1 thanks and was that you who left me karma? i appreciate the good karma people but pelase sign it so i know who to thank..i got like 3 good karma from 3 diff people from this thread and have no idea who gave it to me lol, and id like to give karma back to ya.

:)
 
NY Muscle: We need more guys like you down here in NC. (someone who really wants ta help a chick meet her goals and not just look'en for a piece of ass.)
Ever consider moving a little south?:confused:

Oh well........I tried.
 
OK, OK Bronzed Goddess and NYM (about the people being afraid to ask questions because of some of the harshness thing) I do acquiese... point taken.

I did forget for a split second in time that while we have regular posters there are thousands who lurk here and they may NOT know MissyD and those that are like her and why Spats and I (to name just a few) would get so out and out RUDE AND PISSY with her...

I haven't been myself lately, 'tis true. I've been having some health issues (no biggie - not gonna die here LOL) that have not only been preventing me from competing and making the MOST out of my time spent in the gym, but have made me feel generally lousy MOST of the time. So perhaps I am a bit jealous of an individual that has ALL the knowledge at her fingertips and REFUSES to listen.

I KNOW THAT I DON'T EAT ENOUGH! But, it isn't because I don't want to, my health prevents it these days...

In the process of finding a doc that will fix me up right quick and I will be back to bitching and moaning about HAVING to diet again REAL SOON!.... I PROMISE! :D

Not making excuses, only offering an explanation.
 
CAROLINACHICK said:
NY Muscle: We need more guys like you down here in NC. (someone who really wants ta help a chick meet her goals and not just look'en for a piece of ass.)
Ever consider moving a little south?:confused:

Oh well........I tried.


My best friend keeps asking me to move to NC, Wilmington actually, but damn its so dead down there...not sure if i could do it lol
 
Hey sweetie, I hope you feel better soon. I just knew that something was wrong becuase you are one of the coolest people here on Elite. I hope you feel better soon ma! Take care of yourself darling.
 
how about Anja Langer? as an example

of a bigger gurl who still is beautiful in the face??? she's gorgeous and always has been....
 
Re: how about Anja Langer? as an example

sheez_ripped said:
of a bigger gurl who still is beautiful in the face??? she's gorgeous and always has been....

Now thats what Im talking about!!

mmmmmm :horny: :horny:
 
NY Muscle said:



My best friend keeps asking me to move to NC, Wilmington actually, but damn its so dead down there...not sure if i could do it lol

We've gotta house in Wilmington. It is quiet during the winter months but it's really what'cha make of it!:beer:
 
Yes, I hear the south is QUITE nice! :D

As for Anja Langer a man once described how he felt about the way she looked like this, "I'd eat a mile of shit just to get to her (fill in the blank)" hehehehhehe I can't say that I disagree!
 
bikinimom said:
Yes, I hear the south is QUITE nice! :D

As for Anja Langer a man once described how he felt about the way she looked like this, "I'd eat a mile of shit just to get to her (fill in the blank)" hehehehhehe I can't say that I disagree!

Id drink her bath water..
 
99% of the time everyone on this board "plays nice" - it is rare for someone to get their ass ripped unless they have done something to warrant it. Anyone who has spent much time reading this board should be able to figure that out. I have NEVER seen anyone who was TRULY seeking help get anything other than a board that bends over backwards to give them what they seek. If you throw down the gauntlet on here I can promise you that somebody will pick it up and beat you with it. I believe that it was me that was bitching about not ripping men a new one for asking cycle advice for their women - my main concern was that they would leave without proper dosage and just wing it and some poor girl would pay the price.
 
This thread really bothers me. So here I am posting again. :(

If I could go back to my 19 year old hard body would I? Hell yes. BUT that is not possible so I’m working towards a 30 something hard body. ;) The 30 something has more curves (darn child bearing hips) and I’m finally understanding food is not the enemy I was brainwashed for too many years! Thanks mom! :rolleyes:
So I don’t think it is wrong to admire any physique- it’s the obtaining that should be realistic.
I think some of the BB girls don’t look very feminine because most have these “cheesy” grins- like they’re holding in a BAD case of gas :worried: (sorry) they don’t look natural. The girl sheez_ripped posted looks relaxed and happy (I would too if I looked like her). Reminds me a little of Bo Derrick.

Bottom line setting goals is where we all start and as time goes by those goals evolve. Let’s not knock each others goals. :)


NYM- I hope you stay on missyd's ass and help her get what she wants!
 
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This thread really bothers me. So here I am posting again. :(

If I could go back to my 19 year old hard body would I? Hell yes. BUT that is not possible so I’m working towards a 30 something hard body. ;) The 30 something has more curves (darn child bearing hips).
and I’m finally understanding food is not the enemy I was brainwashed for too many years! Thanks mom! :rolleyes:
So I don’t think it is wrong to admire any physique- it’s the obtaining that should be realistic.
I think some of the BB girls don’t look very feminine because most have these “cheesy” grins- like they’re holding in a BAD case of gas :worried: (sorry) they don’t look natural. The girl sheez_ripped posted looks relaxed and happy (I would too if I looked like her). Reminds me a little of Bo Derrick.

Bottom line setting goals is where we all start and as time goes by those goals evolve. Let’s not knock each others goals. :)


NYM- I hope you stay on missyd's ass and help her get what she wants!
 
Okay, I am about to explode if I don't get this out of my system!!!!

NY Muscle yes I notice you also cover your face for obvious reasons and also on your avatar did some editing on your delts since this must be an area that you are lacking. I see that Heather is not afraid to share and bare all even though some of her pics may be less face flattering she still gives us the privilege of letting us take a peak at her awesome physique.

I just love to see how everyone is so anxious to cut down and critique the female body when this is suppose to be a women's forum where a girl can come and ask for advise and share her progress without the fear of being ridiculed and cut to the core about how ugly you perceive her to be. Face, ass, toes...who gives a shit!!!

Has it ever crossed anyone's simple mind that Heather may frequent this board for advice or just to check it out and may actually from time to time be available to lend us (the women who would love to look like that and work our asses off in the quest to) some of her expertise and advice. Now assuming she may visit this thread and sees how she has become everyone's dartboard for the day, I would not blame her if she never came back again and then we, the women of this board would be at a great loss.

So, in the famous words of our eloquently spoken Bikinimom.....keep your F'ing pie hole shut!!! If you want to remain in the forum for women, continue to build them up and help. If you find in necessary to continue tearing down, the chat board will welcome you with open arms for any discussion you might like to have. Otherwise steer clear of her.

NY Muscle.....thank you for all you helpfull advice you continue to give to the ladies here....lets just leave it at that.....kay?

Whew....I feel better now.

Mrs. TG
 
Texas Guns said:
Okay, I am about to explode if I don't get this out of my system!!!!

NY Muscle yes I notice you also cover your face for obvious reasons and also on your avatar did some editing on your delts since this must be an area that you are lacking. I

lol thanks for the compliment, but FYI my delts are FREAKY and i only train them every OTHER week because of that...no editing there......but thanks for noticing.... thanks for the boost :)


and again, this isnt a beauty contest, you ladies are building your bodies, and OVER and OVER again i will compliment a woman on her physique if it looks good as i did 5 TIMES on Heathers physique...people in the limelight so to say, open themselves up to criticism, its comes with the territory, you think im the only one who has ever said this about her? im sure she gets comments all the time...she aint losing no sleep over it. im sure MANY of you ladies would LOVE to trade bodies with her...BUT how many of you ladies would be able to say you would like HER face instead of YOURS..id say NONE... I wonder why?

*Careful.....you are treading on dangerous ground * -TG
 
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And Heather, if that really IS you, then I apologize, Id never want to hurt someones feelings that was unprovoked, its not like I would come up to you in person and say you are ugly, thats just mean and Id feel bad....has nothing to do with "having the balls" to say it to you....just like i wouldnt go up to a 12 yr old girl who weighs 300lbs and tell her shes fat, thats mean and i dont do shit like that.
 
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ok more communism, texas guns edited my post isnt that great..i had said that heather lee is on this site for a fact.

the fact is HEATHER LEE posted on this THREAD...you think we are stupid???

go ahead edit that too... pathetic
 
NY you are fixing to be edited off this board....keep it up my good man. I will not hide the fact that I will edit again and again....Again I say you are treading on dangerous ground.
 
There is so much cattiness on this board....some of you are jumping on NYM's jock for saying that chick looks like a man...I'll agree with him and say she does have a manly looking face...I don't understand why that's so offensive, she's obviously done a few cycles that have caused that "hardening" of the face, and I don't have to be an expert on steroids to know that... some male bodybuilders have jacked up faces too of course...I respect female and male bodybuilders for the time and discipline they put into their bodies....do I want that look?? No. But for some of you to put down people like Britney Spears saying it's a look of "starvation" you are guilty of the same disrespect you accused NYM of...
 
PinK233 said:
There is so much cattiness on this board....some of you are jumping on NYM's jock for saying that chick looks like a man...I'll agree with him and say she does have a manly looking face...I don't understand why that's so offensive, she's obviously done a few cycles that have caused that "hardening" of the face, and I don't have to be an expert on steroids to know that... some male bodybuilders have jacked up faces too of course...I respect female and male bodybuilders for the time and discipline they put into their bodies....do I want that look?? No. But for some of you to put down people like Britney Spears saying it's a look of "starvation" you are guilty of the same disrespect you accused NYM of...

PinK233 hun, the anadrol is clogging thier minds, thanks for the help, but they dont seem to comprhend what Im saying. :D
 
KEL said:
I think some of the BB girls don’t look very feminine because most have these “cheesy” grins- like they’re holding in a BAD case of gas :worried: (sorry) they don’t look natural. The girl sheez_ripped posted looks relaxed and happy (I would too if I looked like her). Reminds me a little of Bo Derrick.

These women are NOT professional models and MOST of the photogs SUCK ASS. Most of the women are lit in such a fashion as to bring out every cut and ripple, all the vascularity of the body. Unfortunately, this lighting is harsh and unforgiving to even the most beautful women. As for the cheesy grins... do any of you have ANY idea how hard it is to be carb deprived, dehydrated NOW FLEX REAL HARD and look pretty for the camera... give us a natural smile when there is NOTHING NATURAL going on about your body?!

Think about it you guys.....

I just met w/a photog who hasn't seen or shot me in nearly two years. He didn't recognize me at first because of how comparatively developed my body has become since the last time he shot me. But I am currently at about 14/15% bodyfat. Facially, very full and pretty. But my body needs to be at like 10/12% to show muscularity, etc.... yes, my face will then be HARD. I am in my mid thirties and THE FIRST place that fat leaves my body is my face.

Come on people, listen to what is being said here.
 
Texas Guns said:
NY you are fixing to be edited off this board....keep it up my good man. I will not hide the fact that I will edit again and again....Again I say you are treading on dangerous ground.

FYI its just a HUNCH as far as you people are concerned, but im not stupid, il bet $$ on who it is, i guarantee im right.....and its not like id even entertain the idea of telling ANYONE on here who i think it is....do you realize their are a good amount of TOP female pros that are on this site that i know, do you think i would even REMOTELY HINT to who they are...not a chance.
im not like that.
 
Texas, bmom please lock it up... I have had NYM on ignore for soooo long, I haven't had the privilegde you guys have had of reading his posts.:rolleyes: I unblocked him to read his comments, and I must say I am not surprised.:( KBgirl and a few others that have actually met him say he's a good guy and I don't doubt that one bit but I must say his "online persona" is quite brute and disrespectful to women, especially the female BB.
 
PinK233 said:
There is so much cattiness on this board....some of you are jumping on NYM's jock for saying that chick looks like a man...I'll agree with him and say she does have a manly looking face...I don't understand why that's so offensive, she's obviously done a few cycles that have caused that "hardening" of the face, and I don't have to be an expert on steroids to know that... some male bodybuilders have jacked up faces too of course...I respect female and male bodybuilders for the time and discipline they put into their bodies....do I want that look?? No. But for some of you to put down people like Britney Spears saying it's a look of "starvation" you are guilty of the same disrespect you accused NYM of...

Pink I must humbly disagree w/your assessment. I have had the pleasure of meeting MANY of these women and I can tell you for A FACT that they DO NOT have "obvious hardening" of their faces due to use. JESUS! You are looking at a photo of a woman SUB 10% bf! If she had NEVER touched a single drug her face would STILL LOOK HARD AT THAT LOW BODYFAT PERCENTAGE!

And I am NOT putting down Britney Spears by saying that you can look like her by starving. This is a discussion board geared towards fitness issues and how they relate to women - bbing, fitness, comp, A/S etc. I KNOW how to look like Britney Spears. Do lots of cardio and live on lettuce.... ok? What is so catty about that? It is a fact! I am not making a judgement call based on a picture - I am speaking THE TRUTH.
 
Yeah ok Nubian "Beauty" i use that term LIGHTLY, i go out of my way every day to help these ladies on the booard and TONS of pms every DAY...and i date fitness and bb chics, yet you say im "disrespectuful" to the very girls i like....you are whacked...I dont like ugly girls...who does? that isnt disrespectful.
 
Ok now, since some of you can't seem to understand what bmom is saying what low bf% does to your face, here is a pic of her in the Gym w/o makeup!!... As I said before SHE IS BEAUTIFUL!!
 
NB - I have argued with him and stood up for him on numerous occasions but I must say that the behavior he displays on this board would never have been tolerated out of another man. IMO he knew full well that there was a good chance that Heather Lee was reading this thread and chose to say the things that he said anyway - that is inexcusable. When you take the sum total of his posts it is apparent that he is incapable of viewing women as anything other than sex objects and regularly refers to us as "bitchs". I would really like for someone to point me in the direction of all this helpful advice that he give as I have only seen it on rare occasions, seems he spends most of his time telling us don't do this and don't do that and the rest of it using the board as his personal dating service. I am sure that he probably isn't a bad guy but he needs to start conducting himself like a man on here instead of a horny adolescent boy.
 
Temple01 said:
NB - I have argued with him and stood up for him on numerous occasions but I must say that the behavior he displays on this board would never have been tolerated out of another man. IMO he knew full well that there was a good chance that Heather Lee was reading this thread and chose to say the things that he said anyway - that is inexcusable. When you take the sum total of his posts it is apparent that he is incapable of viewing women as anything other than sex objects and regularly refers to us as "bitchs". I would really like for someone to point me in the direction of all this helpful advice that he give as I have only seen it on rare occasions, seems he spends most of his time telling us don't do this and don't do that and the rest of it using the board as his personal dating service. I am sure that he probably isn't a bad guy but he needs to start conducting himself like a man on here instead of a horny adolescent boy.

1st off you resemble a horny adolescent BOY more than me..and i didnt figure out who HEATHER LEE was until i made that post..by that time i STOPPED saying "bad" <-- lol things and actually apologized....theres a nice IGNORE feature...if you dont like what i have to say USE IT.

ciao :)
 
NY Muscle - Yes, I know some of these competitors personally as well....Thank you, I am glad we understand each other on this issue

TG
 
Yea, that's a REAL UGLY FACE HARDENED BY YEARS OF OBVIOUS USE! :rolleyes:

NO MAKEUP PEOPLE - NONE! How many of you would pose for a pic like that?

I know that I SURE THE FUCK WOULD NOT! Geeze - I would scare MYSELF!
 
NB- BRAVO! That is a much better picture. Funny how no lights and make-up make her look better. Natural beauty will always win in my book.

On another note-
Let me understand something- If my goals are not to be less than 10% body fat and I cannot make a choice who I think is attractive I shouldn’t be here?

Sorry if I don’t find the person in the picture to be most beautiful- but I happen to prefer dark hair, eyes and an olive complexion. The blue-eyed blonds of the world will NEVER turn my head. I’m sorry if someone is offended but when you publish pictures you should be able to accept the criticism/ complements that come with them.
 
No KEL, my comments were fused by the thought of men frequenting our board and criticizing the women on it. This is our only haven at times or that was how it was in the beginning. Sorry if it was perceived in the wrong light.
 
On another note-
Let me understand something- If my goals are not to be less than 10% body fat and I cannot make a choice who I think is attractive I shouldn’t be here?

Kel, absolutely that is not what anyone is saying. Personally I will never go below 12% and I will never have the kind of mass that some of these women carry. The problem here is the disrespect that is being shown to some of the top level competitors. To say that she has a great body but her face is ugly is no compliment. It is no different than saying to someone "your face is gorgeous, too bad your ass is so fat". Even though we do not have the same goals as the competitors if we are going to play on a BB board then we had better show respect for their accomplishments.
 
Kel - I am with you. I have always found more exotic looking women much more appealing, but that doesn't mean that I would say that a woman is UGLY because I don't find her to be DROP DEAD GORGEOUS.

And I also echo Mrs Guns' sentiments. This has VERY LITTLE to do with what I personally find visually appealing and EVERYTHING to do with people (especially MEN) cutting women down.

Everyone is welcome here... If I personally go off there is A GOOD REASON. I know that I should use a bit more restraint at times, but I am human too. Just because I am a mod that does not automatically mean that I will not slam some ass if I feel it needs slammin. If I am wrong, I am THE FIRST to bow my head and admit to it.

A wise person once said, "Do you want to be right, or do you want to be happy?"

I don't care about being right... :)
 
Temple01 said:
The problem here is the disrespect that is being shown to some of the top level competitors. To say that she has a great body but her face is ugly is no compliment. It is no different than saying to someone "your face is gorgeous, too bad your ass is so fat". Even though we do not have the same goals as the competitors if we are going to play on a BB board then we had better show respect for their accomplishments.

You did it again T - You put my EXACT thoughts into words. :D
 
Ok after it took me 2 fuckin hours to read this damn thread......this thing has gone way off topic...opinions are just like assholes and everyones got one...to each their own...we are different...like different things etc...YOU CAN NOT PLEASE EVERYONE....I will say pictures do not do a lot of women justice...Ive taken several bad ones in my days...and when you are dieted down to below 10% your face is going to be thin and look hard..you are depleted and contest shape...no one looks like a beauty queen then...that is just how it is...I agree w/ Lobo...add a few lbs and some bf and its a whole different story...i know i look different.

I personally think Heather Lee is amazing....not only her body but I think she has a pretty face...make up and photographers do not bring out the best in everyone all the time...but I truly do not think her pics look bad in the first place...but to those that are more critical...take into consideration their body fat etc...what would britaney spears look like at 8% bf??? Ok rest my case...

We are all on her striving for our own personal goals...heading somewhere..not all going the same distance but we all have fitness in mind...we are here to support each other...we dont support starving women and the quick fix methods...and we welcome all newbies...yes we get tired of questions but if you are trying and putting honest effort..i am willing to help anyone i can...i dont like bull shit posts and laziness...if you are afraid to post..im sorry to hear that..but please this is on the internet...get some balls and voice your opinion and ask your freakin question...it scares me how you deal in the real world outside of here.....you gotta put some emotions aside and not get so worked up over things...you cant please everyone and someone will always find something wrong with you or dislike you...wherever you go..so get used to it.

I do not like anyone putting muscular chics down...we dont put down the male bodybuilders and this is a womans board...so no women bashing......this is not the forum to do it in...k:)
 
Guys...look...i understand what NYM is trying to say....

and I agree....yes...one can admire the pro heavyweight women in their dedication and what they have achieved with their physiques....but few women want to look like them....not in any disrespect....just not the way most women want to look...

and as for the faces....they change....and it IS FROM AAS or growth hormone....


i offer this example....


here is andrulla blanchette when she was first starting out....
 
SO in Andrulla case she is OK looking facially nothing has changed. But since we have so many willing experts on this board. Why doesn't one of you explain to me the science behind this facially altering sport we call body building.

So what causes these girls to go from High school beauty queens to Male queens?
 
Iron God said:
SO in Andrulla case she is OK looking facially nothing has changed. But since we have so many willing experts on this board. Why doesn't one of you explain to me the science behind this facially altering sport we call body building.

So what causes these girls to go from High school beauty queens to Male queens?

Like we dont know the answer to that?

And its NOT sub 10% bodyfat, trust me on that one...i know plenty of natural chics who compete and are sub 10%, and YES their faces are "harder" when that lean, no arguing there....but NOT manly like the girls on drugs. and back to MY original question...at what point do these ladies draw the line (if they even do) as to when they decide that achieving a phenominal body at the expense of their face, is worth it?
 
Anyone remember Michelle Rallabate? she was BEAUTIFUl, they did a huge article in MuscleMag a long time ago, b4 she ever took any drugs she was out right HOT..and then she became well known as having one of the hardest faces in the industry, then she stopped the BB and i THINK does fitness, her face looks a little better to be honest..but still has the reminents of her past drug use.


Here is a perfect example...im sure most of you have seen SCARY MOVIE..the gym teacher..MS MAN? yes thats a FEMALE..and in that movie she was no where near sub 10%, she lives in NJ im pretty sure as i see her at all the local shows in the audience....so now that we know its not the low body fat that made her face...how do i say this and still be PC...umm, not so "flattering"... so what is it? thats obvious people. I mean the people who made that movie found her face..um..well suited for the part..as well did many people who saw the movie...so i dont want to hear im the only one with this OPINION..and im "degrading her and her accomplishments"
 
the answer is easy....

Growth hormone....and harder steroids such as anadrol....and at higher dosages....


maybe it is gradual so they don't realize what they look like....
or maybe they like the look....not all look like that...look at Valentina....very feminine....

but it DON'T HAVE NOTHIN TO DO WITH BODYFAT!! it's the same as the distended bellies of the men....it's da growth....too many drugs at too high dosages....
 
Re: the answer is easy....

sheez_ripped said:
Growth hormone....and harder steroids such as anadrol....and at higher dosages....


maybe it is gradual so they don't realize what they look like....
or maybe they like the look....not all look like that...look at Valentina....very feminine....

but it DON'T HAVE NOTHIN TO DO WITH BODYFAT!! it's the same as the distended bellies of the men....it's da growth....too many drugs at too high dosages....

Amen sista...wow someone who has a friggen CLUE.

I also love your point about the gradual changes...what did i say on this topic a few months back..the changes are so gradual, that they dont see it and even when they do they say, "oh its ok i can live wiht that" or "oh its just some facial hair, ill shave 3 times a week", by now they shave every day...i think they have come to realize they fucked themselves up and dont care....just like the pro guys, who in the hell would want a gut like they do? thats NASTY and outright DISGUSTING..and i KNOW im not the only one who feels that way..... ok lets see how many women will feel that im "degrading the guys and their accomplishments" with that comment.

Yes you are right again hun, its NOT the body fat.

Ok without more of these attacks from these bitter ladies....ill ask again...where do you draw the line ladies? When you go to a club at night and the bouncer says...can i see your ID BRO? is that enough to realize what is happening?
 
there's also a pic of Andrulla competing as an amateur....

can't find it now...but you wouldn't know it was the same person...facially....


this is not bashing anyone's accomplishments...it's what can happen if you go too far with the drug use....it's a decision u have to make....what am i willing to give up for a certain physique....


for me...it's been having a slightly deeper voice...and bigger clit...but i'm not willing to go further than that...and am very happy with my body at this level of development....5'-9", 165 lbs 15% bodyfat....i can go lower in fat without upping drug use...and can compete at local shows...and look fine in a bikini....

and this isn't limited to females only....in my opinion the men have gone too far as well....i like the smaller physiques on the guys...

the drug use is out of control in my opinion....for what it's worth! :)
 
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Hmmmm what I don't get about all this to-ing and fro-ing is what the real issue is. If you like women with superphysiological levels of muscularity and leaness, then you should learn to like or at least tolerate the face that goes with getting to that level of development. I can't see how anyone can deny that women's faces change (become more masculine to put it bluntly) when they ramp up the ergogenics to fool mother nature. So what. Personally I can't understand why any women would want more muscle than Anja Langer (my new hero yum), and you don't have to compromise feminine facial beauty to acheive that kind of look. But like everyone else, that's just an opinion. Maybe it's the BB judges we should be blaming if we don't like the look of current female BBs? They're the ones that are selecting and propagating the look...........
 
Re: there's also a pic of Andrulla competing as an amateur....

sheez_ripped said:
can't find it now...but you wouldn't know it was the same person...facially....


this is not bashing anyone's accomplishments...it's what can happen if you go too far with the drug use....it's a decision u have to make....what am i willing to give up for a certain physique....


for me...it's been having a slightly deeper voice...and bigger clit...but i'm not willing to go further than that...and am very happy with my body at this level of development....5'-9", 165 lbs 15% bodyfat....i can go lower in fat without upping drug use...and can compete at local shows...and look fine in a bikini....

and this isn't limited to females only....in my opinion the men have gone too far as well....i like the smaller physiques on the guys...

the drug use is out of control in my opinion....for what it's worth! :)

Im going to frame this post baby!

:D
 
I disagree....I think a lot of it has to do with the body fat...some of these females were not the best lookin girls to begin w/....yes harder drugs will produce male characteristics....I am not saying that does not happen...you do see this in many of the top female bodybuilders...when a woman is gettin ready for a show and down low in bf...her face will not be at its best....but the point is who cares and who are we to judge?? if you dont like it...dont look at it...dont read about it and dont annouce it time and time again...we could discuss this until we are blue in the face...u have your view...i have mine etc...doesnt matter...ive seen some pretty ugly chics that are skinny and have never touched steroids so.....whatever these women choose to do is their choice...their body...and if it makes THEM happy....great!!!!! That is all that matters...beauty is not just something you see from the outside either...there is inner beauty too...and beauty does NOT MAKE THE PERSON!
 
MS said:
Hmmmm what I don't get about all this to-ing and fro-ing is what the real issue is. If you like women with superphysiological levels of muscularity and leaness, then you should learn to like or at least tolerate the face that goes with getting to that level of development. I can't see how anyone can deny that women's faces change (become more masculine to put it bluntly) when they ramp up the ergogenics to fool mother nature. So what. Personally I can't understand why any women would want more muscle than Anja Langer (my new hero yum), and you don't have to compromise feminine facial beauty to acheive that kind of look. But like everyone else, that's just an opinion. Maybe it's the BB judges we should be blaming if we don't like the look of current female BBs? They're the ones that are selecting and propagating the look...........

MS I am glad you brought that up, its NOT the judges for the most part, ive actually sat with a few judges here and there and most recently was last august at the Womens Extrvaganza in NJ, now i wont name names but these judges are WELLLLL KNOWN....all these guys did was whisper to each other including myself and say things like "I wonder how big her clit is" or "do you think she was once a man" or " look at that jaw, she looks like Jay Leno" these are word for word what the judges said...personally im not interested in the face when it comes to judging their bodies...ive said it before, these girls for the most part have BEAUTIFUL bodies, but the face...eh.... but this is bodybuilding and you are not judged on a quater cheek bone turn to the left or a from double smile... its the body, even though lately they have been wearing TONS of makeup and doign their hair like a prom queen....even cathy lee preist looked amazing this year in terms of her face, maybe its her new color.

so the face is irrelevant for the most part, at least that what i think, becuase the girls winning the BB shows arent supermodels in the face..every year they get bigger and to do that they take more drugs at the expense of their faces..its NOT going to change..eventualy there will be no more female bodybuilding, shit the 2000 Ms O was 10 minutes away from being CANCELLED, its just not that appeasing anymore.
 
NYM - you fail to understand that this is a WOMANS board. You attack one of us, you attack all of us. Have you heard any comments back about what you said about the men and their gross GH guts? NO, probably because this is a WOMANS board. I dare you to make the same HARSH comments on the anabolic board where most MEN are and see what they have to say about it. When you don't know who's on the other end of the keyboard, you should watch what you say. You attack people with certain characteristics and there will be someone who looks similiar. So in a way your comments are hitting some directly. Do you think men on the anabolic board with huge GH guts are going to sit back and listen to you pretty boy talk to them like that?

As for your pic, yes I've seen it because you asked to see one with me and someone else(ONLY with their permission). I hide my face because I don't want to be personally attacked. I know I should not let a person I don't know hurt my feelings, but I know it would. I thought you were a good looking guy until you opened your mouth and I saw you as you are. I am more attracted to the late and great Chris Farley with all his bouncing blubber than I am to you. True beauty is not how muscular or lean you are. You are an ugly person with no heart. You may be helping some woman here, the ones who you think are cute. Would you help me? I don't think so.

There might be newbies here afraid to ask questions because they might get slammed but there also might be women afraid to post pictures because folks like you. All you have to do is be a little more considerate to others and show some respect and manners.
 
OK... just to illustrate my point about lighting...

SAME GIRL - DIFFERENT LIGHTING... and about 5% more bodyfat. Pic taken last summer. No carb depletion, no dehydration, no FLEX REAL HARD AND SMILE PRETTY BULLSHIT... also VOID THE SLEAZY COME DOINK ME NOW BIG BOY MAKEUP...

And VIOLA -
 
Debu said:
NYM - you fail to understand that this is a WOMANS board. You attack one of us, you attack all of us. Have you heard any comments back about what you said about the men and their gross GH guts? NO, probably because this is a WOMANS board. I dare you to make the same HARSH comments on the anabolic board where most MEN are and see what they have to say about it. When you don't know who's on the other end of the keyboard, you should watch what you say. You attack people with certain characteristics and there will be someone who looks similiar. So in a way your comments are hitting some directly. Do you think men on the anabolic board with huge GH guts are going to sit back and listen to you pretty boy talk to them like that?

As for your pic, yes I've seen it because you asked to see one with me and someone else(ONLY with their permission). I hide my face because I don't want to be personally attacked. I know I should not let a person I don't know hurt my feelings, but I know it would. I thought you were a good looking guy until you opened your mouth and I saw you as you are. I am more attracted to the late and great Chris Farley with all his bouncing blubber than I am to you. True beauty is not how muscular or lean you are. You are an ugly person with no heart. You may be helping some woman here, the ones who you think are cute. Would you help me? I don't think so.

There might be newbies here afraid to ask questions because they might get slammed but there also might be women afraid to post pictures because folks like you. All you have to do is be a little more considerate to others and show some respect and manners.

umm hello you didnt block your face out, i saw your face and body and i made no comments....and as far as me helping cute girls only? thats ludicrous....i have no idea what 1/2 these girls look like that I help, thats a stupid comment.

and why are you so afraid of being attacked? what are you hiding?


And i dont "attack" anyone...i said someones face was ugly and her body was BEAUTIFUL...shit 1/2 the stuff some of you ladies say to people (cough BMOM cough) i would NEVER say, thats just outright MEAN...but yet im the one who gets yelled at by the bitter ladies on here. and then i get 9, yes 9 karma comments about how this or that person agreed with what im saying 100%..and these were ladies on the WOMENS board who made the nice karma comments to me..so i guess im not that BAD after all EH?



and bmom that pic yuou just posted..she looks better than the other pics but thats ONE pic..vs like 4-5 other "bad pics", and you yourself said the photographer can make a girl look ugly..hey guess what, he can also make the girl look pretty...so is she pretty or is it the photographer? id have to see her in person and i KNOW where she will be next, ill be sure to attend and tell you what my OPINION is.....



:D
 
bikinimom said:
Sorry if I don’t find the person in the picture to be most beautiful- but I happen to prefer dark hair, eyes and an olive complexion. The blue-eyed blonds of the world will NEVER turn my head. I’m sorry if someone is offended but when you publish pictures you should be able to accept the criticism/ complements that come with them.


bikinimom said:
Kel - I am with you. I have always found more exotic looking women much more appealing, but that doesn't mean that I would say that a woman is UGLY because I don't find her to be DROP DEAD GORGEOUS.

I agree with both of you. There's a great quote that I really like, from Francis Bacon:

"There is no excellent beauty that hath not some strangeness in the proportion."

It's all about the exoticism. We all want to look at least a little different than the rest of the fat, dumpy masses out there. Some of us want to look a little different than the others, and some of us want to look a lot different. Who's to say that we can or can't do this or that to look how we want to look?

And, no offense, but why are all of us spending so much time arguing with a guy on a thread on what WE want to look like, and who we look up to? No offense, NYM, but you're stirring shit up. A discussion on the women's board about what women aspire to shouldn't turn into a 181 post thread on us justifying ourselves to you.

You don't agree, fine. We got that the first several dozen posts you made on the subject.

I for one come here for support in searchign for my new shape. The last thing I want to read is 180 posts arguing with what the idiots in my office who tell me I'm too big think. I know you like to help people here, and that you're a great resource, but really, you can't win this arguement, and I think it's really wrong of you to piss on people's aspirations the way you have in this thread. If I'm making the leap to getting really big, I think I should be able to come to the women's board on Elite fucking Fitness, the anabolic authority, and not find that the women's board has been tied up with this bullshit for the past two days. Even the people who agree with your point of view (and there are many) know enough not to tie up the women's board with this crap.

How does it make you feel when people treat you like a freak? And don't tell us to toughen up and all that crap. This is a place where *women* go to talk, and men who behave are welcome guests. If you come in as a man and a guest, don't stir shit up and then say, "Who, me? I'm not as mean as you guys are." I can't remember the last time BMom or Debu started any nastiness like this, NYM. Do you think that as a guy guest on the women's board that's really behavior that is appropriate, mature, or welcome?

Wyst
 
NY Muscle said:
id have to see her in person and i KNOW where she will be next, ill be sure to attend and tell you what my OPINION is.....

C'mon now.. don't try and hook up with her now that you know she looks good. The proverbial bridge has been burned. Ain't no goin back now.

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wyst said:




How does it make you feel when people treat you like a freak? And don't tell us to toughen up and all that crap. This is a place where *women* go to talk, and men who behave are welcome guests. If you come in as a man and a guest, don't stir shit up and then say, "Who, me? I'm not as mean as you guys are." I can't remember the last time BMom or Debu started any nastiness like this, NYM. Do you think that as a guy guest on the women's board that's really behavior that is appropriate, mature, or welcome?

Wyst


1st off these hormone abusers attacked ME..i told them my OPINION and i do NOT find that person attractive..end of fucking disussion!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!..but all these yentas have to get there 2 cents in and THEY are the ones dragging this crap on and on and on...matter of fact if these “mods” did their damn job in the 1st place this thread would have been moved to the CHAT BOARD where it should have been in the 1st place.yet these “mods” use their “power” (man that’s funny) and edit posts and completely disrespect people cause they are a “mod”..what kind of pathettc shit is that…...this thread is the equivalent of asking what kind of car do you like...its IRRELEVANT to this board and belongs on the chat board...so no im NOT a guest...im replying to a thread that has no purpose being on the womens board in the 1st place. so once this thread gets moved i guess that no one should be mad at me right? Lol yeah right… i mean its not a womens board thread no more...how quick the key stroke on a keyboard can move a thread and SHOULD change everyones opinion about my ONE COMMENT!! But of coruse it wont so stop using that lame ass excuse about me beign a guest on this board.

So I challenge a mod with ½ a brain to move this thread to the board that it belongs on the CHAT BOARD!!
But they wont cuase like lots of people on this site they need a damn audience they can't do shit on their own without a crowd and wanna be like the rest…so move the damn thread already…enough is enough…then we can get some more comments from the people who don’t come on this board cause, as a few LADIES put it, they are PETRFIED of some of you mean people ;) (ladies specifically)
 
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J-DAM said:


C'mon now.. don't try and hook up with her now that you know she looks good. The proverbial bridge has been burned. Ain't no goin back now.


haa cute...but um no thanks.
 
Oh and for all you "less fortunate" people (i hope you see the sarcasm) who aren’t "privileged" enough to see what goes on at the MODERTORS BOARD...it was suggested they ban missyd because she is …get this…….lazy and stupid.!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! that’s what your mods are doing with your hard earned money for all you platinum paying members. Can you believe that shit?

It’s the OVER ABUNDANCE of mods who also have to much free time that are bringing this board down, not people like me who aren’t zombies like many of you who are afraid to voice your opinion.

So bravo “mods”.

Power corrupts and absolute power corrupts absolutely…..

Damn communists
 
NY Muscle said:
this thread is the equivalent of asking what kind of car do you like...its IRRELEVANT to this board and belongs on the chat board...so no im NOT a guest...im replying to a thread that has no purpose being on the womens board in the 1st place. so once this thread gets moved i guess that no one should be mad at me right? Lol yeah right… i mean its not a womens board thread no more...how quick the key stroke on a keyboard can move a thread and SHOULD change everyones opinion about my ONE COMMENT!! But of coruse it wont so stop using that lame ass excuse about me beign a guest on this board.

Dude, it is, or was, a thread where women who work out a lot were talking about what their eventual goal is. How is that not a women's board thread. If it was a "guys, what women do you find hot" thread, then it would make sense here. But it wasn't, though you basically single handedly turned it into one.

Yes you stated your opinion once. Fine. And the women on the women's board many of them didn't agree. Fine. But you're right back in there eagruing, arguing, arguing, trying to prove to these women that their heroines (and by extension themselves, or at least their goals) are ugly.

Fucking THINK, man.

OF COURSE people are going to be pissed off. And what are you trying to prove anyhow? Are you going to argue us out of our opinions? If I went onto the anabolic board and said big guys look dumb, don't you think it would be an instant flame war? You seem like a smart guy, but, as I've said before, you don't seem to be very good at understanding how the things you say are going to be taken. That's the charitable interpretation. If you knew this was going to happen (which should have been painfully obvious, as it ALWAYS happens when people say the things you have been saying on this board), then you're being an asshole. I prefer to think you just weren't thinking.

Wyst
 
Wsyt proving you and the other ladies wrong is begining to get TOO easy.

the orginal post had said

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if you had to pick one person besides yourself to look like. who would that be and why? please try to make these examples people we would know.
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how in the world is that related to womens bodybuilding and fitness?????????????

hey LADIES...guess what.....rainbow22 .........IS A FUCKING GUY!!!!! .............(the crowd gets silent, crickets chirp)

thank you yet once again...now move the damn thread to the chat board! do something constructive for a change "mods"
 
I don't know the full "inside story" of missyd from the mods perspective, but I DO know that from my perspective some of them are unjustifiable hard on her. I would prefer thay deleted her threads altogether rather than resort to such unprofessional flames or editing of her posts. I can't see any justification for the level of mud-slinging that's going on in this thread no matter what board you're participating on. NYM, why don't you rise above all of this and just refuse to post anymore responses to this thread. You are not helping anyone with your persistence. If we're gonna slag off what we think is ugly, then you would be well up my list even without showing your face. To this female you look like steer that's been fattened on corn and finaplex. I personally do not like the steroid look on a man or woman, and I find your protests that "OH, I only used a little compared to the other guys", and "I needed it because of health or genetic lack" or whatever other justifications you may make for your own physique, you are truly ugly to me. Of course I would not normally say this to your face because I try to be polite and say as many positive things about folks as I can. You can see how this board would quickly deteriorate if we all spoke our minds 100% of the time like you and BMOM. It doesn't work, and I would suggest you both leave your negative opinions in your heads unless they are specifiaclly asked for. This common courtesy is what has separated this board form places like the chat board or anabolic board for so many years. Be polite or be quiet.
 
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MS said:
I don't know the full "inside story" of missyd from the mods perspective, but I DO know that from my perspective some of them are unjustifiable hard on her. I would prefer thay deleted her threads altogether rather than resort to such unprofessional flames or editing of her posts. I can't see any justification for the level of mud-slinging that's going on in this thread no matter what board you're participating on. NYM, why don't you rise above all of this and just refuse to post anymore responses to this thread. You are not helping anyone with your persistence. If we're gonna slag off what we think is ugly, then you would be well up my list even without showing your face. To this female you look like steer that's been fattened on corn and finaplex. I personally do not like the steroid look on a man or woman, and I find your protests that "OH, I only used a little compared to the other guys", and "I needed it because of health or genetic lack" or whatever other justifications you may make for your own physique, you are truly ugly to me. Of course I would not normally say this to your face because I try to be polite and say as many positive things about folks as I can. You can see how this board would quickly deteriorate if we all spoke our minds 100% of the time like you and BMOM. It doesn't work, and I would suggest you both leave your negative opinions in your heads unless they are specifiaclly asked for. This common courtesy is what has separated this board form places like the chat board or anabolic board for so many years. Be polite or be quiet.


hmm a steer on corn and fina ..i like that..thank you for the compliment :) but corn is carbs and carbs are BAAADD lol......and i lack nothing genetically, ive been off for a damn year lol...and ONLY "use" when i diet...sorry some of the lazy people on here find that hard to beleive and the fact that when i want to GROW i EAT. holy shit, rocket science.

notice im not getting all upset abuot your OPINION on me?(in fact i like it) yet tons of these ladies get mad about MY OPINION.

bottom line MS..this is a chat board topic, hell a MALE made the original post...so lets get this crap moved and let it marinate over on the chat board...see if they have the patience to read 10+ pages and make a reply.
you are a smart chic MS..you know this thread should never have stayed here more than 10 minutes...move it.
 
Re: there's also a pic of Andrulla competing as an amateur....

sheez_ripped said:
can't find it now...but you wouldn't know it was the same person...facially....


this is not bashing anyone's accomplishments...it's what can happen if you go too far with the drug use....it's a decision u have to make....what am i willing to give up for a certain physique....


for me...it's been having a slightly deeper voice...and bigger clit...but i'm not willing to go further than that...and am very happy with my body at this level of development....5'-9", 165 lbs 15% bodyfat....i can go lower in fat without upping drug use...and can compete at local shows...and look fine in a bikini....

and this isn't limited to females only....in my opinion the men have gone too far as well....i like the smaller physiques on the guys...

the drug use is out of control in my opinion....for what it's worth! :)

Of all the posts on this thread the ones by sheez_ripped make the most sense. The overriding point is that bodybuidling professionally is a total JOKE! I'm sorry, but if you think it is cool and that the sizes that these people (men and women) are achieving is worth pursuing, then you are an idiot. Professional bodybuilding is not about how good your diet is, or how much and how effective you train, it's about how many drugs you pump into your system. In the next 5-10 years, how many of the top bodybuilders will be dead?
 
NY Muscle said:
Oh and for all you "less fortunate" people (i hope you see the sarcasm) who aren’t "privileged" enough to see what goes on at the MODERTORS BOARD...it was suggested they ban missyd because she is …get this…….lazy and stupid.!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! that’s what your mods are doing with your hard earned money for all you platinum paying members. Can you believe that shit?


How do YOU know what goes on on the Mods board???? How do you get to see it????
 
NY Muscle said:
bottom line MS..this is a chat board topic, hell a MALE made the original post...so lets get this crap moved and let it marinate over on the chat board...see if they have the patience to read 10+ pages and make a reply.
you are a smart chic MS..you know this thread should never have stayed here more than 10 minutes...move it.

If women are talking about who they want to look like, what their goal is, etc, it's certainly a good thread for the women's board. If it was on the chat thread, it would be full of guys asking if we'd show our tits, or posting playmates. And that's fine. On the chat board. Or the sheets board.

Bottom line: the guy (if rainbow is a guy) made a post that interested the women, and got them talking, and then the rest of the time, they've been fighting over your crap, you screwed up, not rainbow.

The fact is, this is a women's board, for women. You, and other guys, can post here as a guest and even hang out here, if you choose. However, unless your balls have shrivelled up even worse than I suspect, you're not a woman, and ipso facto, not qualified to decide what should be on the WOMEN's board.

Got that?

And furthermore:

You...are...not...a...mod.

You don't get to decide what gets posted or moved on here.

And if you disagree with the direction of the threads, it's damned rude to be screwing them up. Screwing up threads and then saying, "hey, why are they all so mad, I'm not mad" is childish. It's something I expect from someone like Warik. I expect more from someone like you, who's been around this board long enough to know that this kind of crap gets this kind of response.

Wyst
 
Temple01 said:
NY Muscle said:
Oh and for all you "less fortunate" people (i hope you see the sarcasm) who aren’t "privileged" enough to see what goes on at the MODERTORS BOARD...it was suggested they ban missyd because she is …get this…….lazy and stupid.!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! that’s what your mods are doing with your hard earned money for all you platinum paying members. Can you believe that shit?


How do YOU know what goes on on the Mods board???? How do you get to see it????

I for one would like to know the answer to this too.

I think it's good that there are mods. Without mods, anyone who gets a good head of steam on after shooting up whatever damned juice might come over here and set up shop and decide he was the king, or the dad or whatever, making declarations from as though on high, and telling people that their aesthetics are wrong and, what's more, setting out to prove it to them. And wouldn't that be lovely (I hope you see the sarcasm)? Mods to (eventually? please?) zap this kind of crap are *exactly* what make platinum memberships worth paying for.

Wyst
 
Well if it’s any consolation have learned the possible alter ego of missyd is... and let me add she’s come a long way. Questions and all. :)

here's my hint: =P~~
 
"and i lack nothing genetically, ive been off for a damn year lol...and ONLY "use" when i diet...sorry some of the lazy
people on here find that hard to beleive and the fact that when i want to GROW i EAT. holy shit, rocket science. "

That's the funniets s**t to come out of your mouth yet!

From January 2002 we have: (http://209.11.101.244/forum/showthread.php?threadid=105621&perpage=20&pagenumber=4)

NY Muscle "(I ) ......put on 60lbs of muscle?
40lbs of which was JUICE FREE"..................hmmm wonder where the other 20 lbs came from. No doubt gained as a result of your immaculate cutting diets??

"dont tell ME about MY genetics I was fat for most MY life, was even diagnosed with
real low thyroids levels, but wasnt helped until a yr or 2 ago, now im on 150mcg of synthroid a day. hmmm let seee
nothing wrong with MY genetics?"

"well i eat as much as some of these big bitches on here and if i ate more id get fat"

And best of all "oh shut up you whining bitches, if u want to look good stop bitching and do something
about it.....and also these women i am speaking to are on steroids (most of whom have no business doing that shit) this
is the board full of girls who juice or is this the basket weaving board?? "

AND
"ps... im the type of guy who yells at and puts down the people who are LAZY and take juice (like 75% of elite fitness) so
dont even TRY to play that bitch ass game with me."

Ya gotta love this guy.
 
NY Muscle said:



1st off these hormone abusers attacked ME..i told them my OPINION and i do NOT find that person attractive..end of fucking disussion!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!..but all these yentas have to get there 2 cents in and THEY are the ones dragging this crap on and on and on...matter of ing to a thread that has no purpose being on the womens


I'ts comments like that that cause the problems. You don't have to describe women as hormone abuseres. You could have politely stated "some of these women". You offered your initial opion using words that were mean. Try leaving out adjedtives and adverbs, anything in the English language that does not describe anything. I like what MS said, BE NICE OR BE QUIET.
 
MS sorry you havent mastered the art of dieting and adding a few lbs of LBM..ill repeat.. i do NOT take AAS when im bulking...what the hell for? just EAT...i take it when i diet...and thanks for pointing out my post about the bad thyroid i have yet i can still get shredded with no t3 and the t4 does nothing in terms of fat loss for me... once again you point out my dedication and hard work....for a second it looked as if you were bad mouthing me but i realize now you were just praising me.

why thank you hun :)

and debu..look at how some of these ladies attacked me and said nasty things all because i thought some chic was ugly...once again they attacked me....im just doing what they are in terms of name calling..except they started it.
 
WarLobo said:


NYM, as far as having to much time on my hands, LOL, that's funny - seeing the vast posting your doing on this thread alone.
Oh, and I only have to use half my brain, it's just not that complicated. So please don't go spouting off challenging me as a Mod - it's so sandbox.


You notice that too? lol shit i was thinking, holy fuck i posted more in one day today than i do in a week...blame it on the fat burners i starting this past monday.......i havent taken these things in one full year...you should hear me talk today at work... a mile a friggen minute...i didnt even understand what I said a few times.

and my hair itches too, wtf

lmfao oh man i cant stop.
 
"MS sorry you havent mastered the art of dieting and adding a few lbs of LBM..ill repeat.. i do NOT take AAS when im
bulking...what the hell for? just EAT.."

This is what most sensible BBs do. And no I haven't mastered the art of using steroids to GAIN LBM while dieting, while at the same time slagging off other folks for doing the same. I also have not mastered the art of kidding myself that using steroids "only when cutting" doesn't count and therefore I must be god's gift to natural musculature and leaness. Why should we believe a word you say anyway. It's obvious from your physique that you have used steroids. End of story. Why are you abusing other people for the same obvious physical signs of steroid abuse? To me it's not a gender issue. It's a fairness issue. You're "ugly" in the same way as the women you are verbally abusing.

But in spite of your very poor genetics and thyroid probs you think that you are just that much more dedicated and hard working than the rest of us, therefore you've "earned" your right to use steroids without question. Good to see your ego isn't suffering from hypothyroidism.
 
MS said:
It's obvious from your physique that you have used steroids. End of story.


THANK YOU :)


MS said:
Why are you abusing other people for the same obvious physical signs of steroid abuse? To me it's not a gender issue. It's a fairness issue. You're "ugly" in the same way as the women you are verbally abusing.

But in spite of your very poor genetics and thyroid probs you think that you are just that much more dedicated and hard working than the rest of us, therefore you've "earned" your right to use steroids without question. Good to see your ego isn't suffering from hypothyroidism.


What signs of steroid abuse do u see on me? in that pic i was maybe 8% not super shredded like I would be for a show like 2%......u have also seen my other pics in normal nice clothes...i hold my size well and look good in clothes and not like a circus clown...shit im not even that big in my opinion lol.......so where is the *obvious signs of steroid abuse*?

My face hasnt changed, and not sure why it would...im not taking any sort of female hormone...

And you know what maybe i have *earned the right to use* or moreover, earned the right to criticize....i had a 10+ years natural base..didnt even take a damn amino acid....then when i even touched a damn shot of AAS it was like night and day....i was dieting and got shredded....ended up losing 2-3 inches on my waist and added 12lbs of LBM..i looked like i put on 25 lbs...all off of 6, count them...6 simple shots of Sustanon followed by 13 measly amps of winstrol. many ladies on here have done that and some even twice that amount. one of the problems i have with most *users* is that they want it and they want it yesterday...well then dont complain when after 5 cycles you still arent happy with the way you look, thats the crappy natural base for ya...we had this same discussion a while back..im sure you recall. people can use, its their choice, but i wont hesitate to call them on it if its quite obvious they started too early.

and MS i know your a smart chic and you are thinking "see it was the drugs cause in ur own words u said it was like night and day"...no it wasnt the drugs because me and my best buddy started our 1st cycle the same day...he did 22 shots of sustanon, 20 shots of winny and some primo..the kid gained 15 lbs, 10 of which he pissed away at the end..thats because he was only training for less than 2 years..i actually gained 6lbs when i came off AAS..no joke..i was taking (not lying) i think something like 6 times the recommended amount of HMB (lol yes HMB) as well as the brand new (at that time) phosphagen HP and V2G...man the good ol days
 
And whoever was kind enough to leave me bad karma saying I'm a "stupid stupid child" should have the balls to sign it...yes I'm such a child but I'm not the one acting immature and petty on the internet... :)
 
PinK233 said:
And whoever was kind enough to leave me bad karma saying I'm a "stupid stupid child" should have the balls to sign it...yes I'm such a child but I'm not the one acting immature and petty on the internet... :)

They got to you too, huh babe? Well I gave you some good Karma to cancell the bad sh*t out. Don't let 'em get to you. You would think that being juiced would give them courage to sign the karma. Just a thought.
 
Girls - I can guarantee you that NONE of the women who were actively engaged in this thread are the ones who left you the bad karma. I have known all of them long enough to know that if they or I are going to jump in the middle of you we will do it to your face so that you have every opportunity to respond. I will also tell you that there was more going on in this thread than meets the eye. IMO the karma thing is just plain silly to begin with but if we must have it I strongly encourage George to change the format so the user name is automatically added when it is posted.
 
You know Temple I was thinking the same thing myself. Maybe someone was just trying to stir some shit up and silly me fell for it.--Shame on me! I appologize to the board and to all the nice ladies. KISSES
 
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