who to look like?

[NY Muscle]

Anyone remember Michelle Rallabate? she was BEAUTIFUl, they did a huge article in MuscleMag a long time ago, b4 she ever took any drugs she was out right HOT..and then she became well known as having one of the hardest faces in the industry, then she stopped the BB and i THINK does fitness, her face looks a little better to be honest..but still has the reminents of her past drug use.


Here is a perfect example...im sure most of you have seen SCARY MOVIE..the gym teacher..MS MAN? yes thats a FEMALE..and in that movie she was no where near sub 10%, she lives in NJ im pretty sure as i see her at all the local shows in the audience....so now that we know its not the low body fat that made her face...how do i say this and still be PC...umm, not so "flattering"... so what is it? thats obvious people. I mean the people who made that movie found her face..um..well suited for the part..as well did many people who saw the movie...so i dont want to hear im the only one with this OPINION..and im "degrading her and her accomplishments"

 

[sheez_ripped]

the answer is easy....

Growth hormone....and harder steroids such as anadrol....and at higher dosages....


maybe it is gradual so they don't realize what they look like....
or maybe they like the look....not all look like that...look at Valentina....very feminine....

but it DON'T HAVE NOTHIN TO DO WITH BODYFAT!! it's the same as the distended bellies of the men....it's da growth....too many drugs at too high dosages....

 

[NY Muscle]

Re: the answer is easy....

Growth hormone....and harder steroids such as anadrol....and at higher dosages....


maybe it is gradual so they don't realize what they look like....
or maybe they like the look....not all look like that...look at Valentina....very feminine....

but it DON'T HAVE NOTHIN TO DO WITH BODYFAT!! it's the same as the distended bellies of the men....it's da growth....too many drugs at too high dosages....

Amen sista...wow someone who has a friggen CLUE.

I also love your point about the gradual changes...what did i say on this topic a few months back..the changes are so gradual, that they dont see it and even when they do they say, "oh its ok i can live wiht that" or "oh its just some facial hair, ill shave 3 times a week", by now they shave every day...i think they have come to realize they fucked themselves up and dont care....just like the pro guys, who in the hell would want a gut like they do? thats NASTY and outright DISGUSTING..and i KNOW im not the only one who feels that way..... ok lets see how many women will feel that im "degrading the guys and their accomplishments" with that comment.

Yes you are right again hun, its NOT the body fat.

Ok without more of these attacks from these bitter ladies....ill ask again...where do you draw the line ladies? When you go to a club at night and the bouncer says...can i see your ID BRO? is that enough to realize what is happening?

 

[sheez_ripped]

there's also a pic of Andrulla competing as an amateur....

can't find it now...but you wouldn't know it was the same person...facially....


this is not bashing anyone's accomplishments...it's what can happen if you go too far with the drug use....it's a decision u have to make....what am i willing to give up for a certain physique....


for me...it's been having a slightly deeper voice...and bigger clit...but i'm not willing to go further than that...and am very happy with my body at this level of development....5'-9", 165 lbs 15% bodyfat....i can go lower in fat without upping drug use...and can compete at local shows...and look fine in a bikini....

and this isn't limited to females only....in my opinion the men have gone too far as well....i like the smaller physiques on the guys...

the drug use is out of control in my opinion....for what it's worth!

 

[MS]

Hmmmm what I don't get about all this to-ing and fro-ing is what the real issue is. If you like women with superphysiological levels of muscularity and leaness, then you should learn to like or at least tolerate the face that goes with getting to that level of development. I can't see how anyone can deny that women's faces change (become more masculine to put it bluntly) when they ramp up the ergogenics to fool mother nature. So what. Personally I can't understand why any women would want more muscle than Anja Langer (my new hero yum), and you don't have to compromise feminine facial beauty to acheive that kind of look. But like everyone else, that's just an opinion. Maybe it's the BB judges we should be blaming if we don't like the look of current female BBs? They're the ones that are selecting and propagating the look...........

 

[NY Muscle]

Re: there's also a pic of Andrulla competing as an amateur....

can't find it now...but you wouldn't know it was the same person...facially....


this is not bashing anyone's accomplishments...it's what can happen if you go too far with the drug use....it's a decision u have to make....what am i willing to give up for a certain physique....


for me...it's been having a slightly deeper voice...and bigger clit...but i'm not willing to go further than that...and am very happy with my body at this level of development....5'-9", 165 lbs 15% bodyfat....i can go lower in fat without upping drug use...and can compete at local shows...and look fine in a bikini....

and this isn't limited to females only....in my opinion the men have gone too far as well....i like the smaller physiques on the guys...

the drug use is out of control in my opinion....for what it's worth!

Im going to frame this post baby!

 

[new@gettinbig]

I disagree....I think a lot of it has to do with the body fat...some of these females were not the best lookin girls to begin w/....yes harder drugs will produce male characteristics....I am not saying that does not happen...you do see this in many of the top female bodybuilders...when a woman is gettin ready for a show and down low in bf...her face will not be at its best....but the point is who cares and who are we to judge?? if you dont like it...dont look at it...dont read about it and dont annouce it time and time again...we could discuss this until we are blue in the face...u have your view...i have mine etc...doesnt matter...ive seen some pretty ugly chics that are skinny and have never touched steroids so.....whatever these women choose to do is their choice...their body...and if it makes THEM happy....great!!!!! That is all that matters...beauty is not just something you see from the outside either...there is inner beauty too...and beauty does NOT MAKE THE PERSON!

 

[NY Muscle]

Hmmmm what I don't get about all this to-ing and fro-ing is what the real issue is. If you like women with superphysiological levels of muscularity and leaness, then you should learn to like or at least tolerate the face that goes with getting to that level of development. I can't see how anyone can deny that women's faces change (become more masculine to put it bluntly) when they ramp up the ergogenics to fool mother nature. So what. Personally I can't understand why any women would want more muscle than Anja Langer (my new hero yum), and you don't have to compromise feminine facial beauty to acheive that kind of look. But like everyone else, that's just an opinion. Maybe it's the BB judges we should be blaming if we don't like the look of current female BBs? They're the ones that are selecting and propagating the look...........

MS I am glad you brought that up, its NOT the judges for the most part, ive actually sat with a few judges here and there and most recently was last august at the Womens Extrvaganza in NJ, now i wont name names but these judges are WELLLLL KNOWN....all these guys did was whisper to each other including myself and say things like "I wonder how big her clit is" or "do you think she was once a man" or " look at that jaw, she looks like Jay Leno" these are word for word what the judges said...personally im not interested in the face when it comes to judging their bodies...ive said it before, these girls for the most part have BEAUTIFUL bodies, but the face...eh.... but this is bodybuilding and you are not judged on a quater cheek bone turn to the left or a from double smile... its the body, even though lately they have been wearing TONS of makeup and doign their hair like a prom queen....even cathy lee preist looked amazing this year in terms of her face, maybe its her new color.

so the face is irrelevant for the most part, at least that what i think, becuase the girls winning the BB shows arent supermodels in the face..every year they get bigger and to do that they take more drugs at the expense of their faces..its NOT going to change..eventualy there will be no more female bodybuilding, shit the 2000 Ms O was 10 minutes away from being CANCELLED, its just not that appeasing anymore.

 

[Debu]

NYM - you fail to understand that this is a WOMANS board. You attack one of us, you attack all of us. Have you heard any comments back about what you said about the men and their gross GH guts? NO, probably because this is a WOMANS board. I dare you to make the same HARSH comments on the anabolic board where most MEN are and see what they have to say about it. When you don't know who's on the other end of the keyboard, you should watch what you say. You attack people with certain characteristics and there will be someone who looks similiar. So in a way your comments are hitting some directly. Do you think men on the anabolic board with huge GH guts are going to sit back and listen to you pretty boy talk to them like that?

As for your pic, yes I've seen it because you asked to see one with me and someone else(ONLY with their permission). I hide my face because I don't want to be personally attacked. I know I should not let a person I don't know hurt my feelings, but I know it would. I thought you were a good looking guy until you opened your mouth and I saw you as you are. I am more attracted to the late and great Chris Farley with all his bouncing blubber than I am to you. True beauty is not how muscular or lean you are. You are an ugly person with no heart. You may be helping some woman here, the ones who you think are cute. Would you help me? I don't think so.

There might be newbies here afraid to ask questions because they might get slammed but there also might be women afraid to post pictures because folks like you. All you have to do is be a little more considerate to others and show some respect and manners.

 

[Bikini Mod]

OK... just to illustrate my point about lighting...

SAME GIRL - DIFFERENT LIGHTING... and about 5% more bodyfat. Pic taken last summer. No carb depletion, no dehydration, no FLEX REAL HARD AND SMILE PRETTY BULLSHIT... also VOID THE SLEAZY COME DOINK ME NOW BIG BOY MAKEUP...

And VIOLA -