Who never comes off and just keep changing there juice?

[boychimalochi]

I know a few friends are 6 months + , one or two of them a year +, most cant come off due to so many comps.... Running 12 week cycles then changing easters and running another cycle.

 

[FunFun]

The question that needs to be answered that will help answer your question: Do longer cycles have a permanent irreversible effect on the body's own testosterone production or will the body get back to normal no matter how long the cycle?

 

[boychimalochi]

The question that needs to be answered that will help answer your question: Do longer cycles have a permanent irreversible effect on the body's own testosterone production or will the body get back to normal no matter how long the cycle?

Its a good question. I know that alot dont come off due to all the shows they compete in as they need to be in shape all year. I am sure juicing all year has it victims. Another problem is the depression after finishing a course..Juice give you a synergetic effect, you look good and feel good and dont ever want it to stop.

 

[FunFun]

My problem is that I'm 49 and have a very low natural production. What to do?

Perhaps go on higher dose cycles followed by lower dose HRT cycles????

Any suggestions would be appreciated.

 

[Tatyana]

Its a good question. I know that alot dont come off due to all the shows they compete in as they need to be in shape all year. I am sure juicing all year has it victims. Another problem is the depression after finishing a course..Juice give you a synergetic effect, you look good and feel good and dont ever want it to stop.

Do you mean pros?

I don't think that a lad who wants to have a strong and lean physique falls into the same category as a pro.

It think there are a couple of things to consider

- did these chaps have blood work before? Did they have normal test levels or lower test levels

-there are studies on people who have been on replacement hormones most of their lives - women. The research is always conflicting, it increases the risk of some types of cancer, it protects against some types of cancer, it increases or decreases the incidence of heart disease.

It does depend a lot on biochemical individuality

- are they relying on the drugs to make up for gaps in their training and diet? If so, when are they going to learn?

- If you can't look good in your twenties without drugs, what are you going to do in your 30s, 40s, 50s +++?

My mom told me life gets better as you get older, and from what I can tell so far, she is right.

- what is going on with you psychologically that you have to stay on any drug that you don't need medically. Is that an addiction? Do you want to be addicted to anything?

 

[boychimalochi]

Do you mean pros?

I don't think that a lad who wants to have a strong and lean physique falls into the same category as a pro.

It think there are a couple of things to consider

- did these chaps have blood work before? Did they have normal test levels or lower test levels

-there are studies on people who have been on replacement hormones most of their lives - women. The research is always conflicting, it increases the risk of some types of cancer, it protects against some types of cancer, it increases or decreases the incidence of heart disease.

It does depend a lot on biochemical individuality

- are they relying on the drugs to make up for gaps in their training and diet? If so, when are they going to learn?

- If you can't look good in your twenties without drugs, what are you going to do in your 30s, 40s, 50s +++?

My mom told me life gets better as you get older, and from what I can tell so far, she is right.

- what is going on with you psychologically that you have to stay on any drug that you don't need medically. Is that an addiction? Do you want to be addicted to anything?

I am talking about competetive bodybuilders. They have quite a few shows to do every year, if they win locally they compete in more shows abroad. They have contracts with suplement companies, they need to stay in shape all year...

 

[halfcenturian]

His name is Mr. Dead Guy. But his friends call him Corpse......... Pro's only.

I don't know any normal human being that would do that recreationally, but I'm sure there are some Dip Shits doing it somewhere.

I hope you are not considering it?

 

[Tatyana]

His name is Mr. Dead Guy. But his friends call him Corpse......... Pro's only.

I don't know any normal human being that would do that recreationally, but I'm sure there are some Dip Shits doing it somewhere.

I hope you are not considering it?

I know of one lad on another board that started cycling at 18 on 650-850 mg/test/week, and hasn't come off.

It is now 10 years on, and for the last two he has added 2-4 IUs of growth/day.

He doesn't compete.

 

[FunFun]

Do you mean pros?


- If you can't look good in your twenties without drugs, what are you going to do in your 30s, 40s, 50s +++?

My mom told me life gets better as you get older, and from what I can tell so far, she is right.

It all depends on what you consider looking good. It's not hard to look like the skinny, buff guys who do underwear commercials without drugs, but many young kids are entralled with huge powerful physiques which take more than protein powder and creatine to develop.

Females can do a lot with plastic surgery and makeup. Guys don't have it that easy.

I trained natural for almost 30 years before I used a drug and achieved more development in 3 months than 10 years of natural training. Sure, I could have modelled underwear, but I wanted more.

 

[bw1]

I come off, but I do like switching up compounds when I am on