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housemusik83
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a gram is just fucking nuts... and can get reallll fucking pricey well for me atleast!
Who all has ran a gram of test and how did you like it?
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Most people think the bigger you are the more you need. But that isn't true.
I was around 252-260 that cycle and could have gotten the same benefits from half the dose. The key word here is BENEFITS.
This is going to sound retarded for most people, but I think that the people that need high doses are the people with low bodyfat %. If you are 18%+ BF, you don't need that much of a dose because you are going to hold water like the Titanic. But then you take AIs to fight the bloat (which isn't what they were intended for) and then you usually try something else and fuck up the whole point of the cycle which is potential gains.
Roids only give you MORE OF THE SAME. Whatever you got, you get more of. Now someone with 7% bodyfat can handle 1 gram of test weekly because they are (at least they should be) packing down the protein and calories. YOU NEED PROTEIN. How do roid molecules travel in the body? By attaching to binding protein molecules. So it makes sense to use the high doses when you are eating like crazy and bulking right? Not when you are on a calorie stricted diet.
So why would you be bulking and eating like crazy if you are already overweight? That makes no sense.
People get caught up in this tunnel vision with their "goals" which turn out to be nothing more than fucking HABITS. Big difference. Always bulking, always trying to grow, always wanting the scale (and bar weight) numbers to go up. Why? 99% of the people on this board will never even compete in a national show. And the vast majority of that number shouldn't try either.
Roids are about body ENHANCEMENT. Call me crazy, but adding 15lbs of water with an increase of 4% BF is NOT an enhancement. WHEN YOU ARE ALREADY OVERWEIGHT TO BEGIN WITH. Bros come on here and take their body type and structure in the complete opposite direction of what will make them look good. What looks better? The guy on the cover of Flex Magazine year around and not just 1 week per year for his show or the guy on the cover of Mens Health who looks that way year around. Yeah go ahead and be macho and talk about how the Mens Health guy looks like a fag and everyone is bigger than he is. (as if. especially on this board.)
If you can't possibly become a top level bodybuilder, you shouldn't be attempting doses like this. And if you can become a top level bodybuilder you would already know it. None of this "after this cycle I am really going to look good." Your ass would already look good before you do the cycle.
Hate to rant, but I see guys come on here and do stuff that makes me wonder what shape they are going to be in when they turn 40. Edema, bloat, etc.. that only contributes to health problems later on.
This is your body. You only get one. Fuck it up how you wish but later on you are going to look back and see other people doing the exact same thing you did and go "wtf are they doing?"
I was around 252-260 that cycle and could have gotten the same benefits from half the dose. The key word here is BENEFITS.
This is going to sound retarded for most people, but I think that the people that need high doses are the people with low bodyfat %. If you are 18%+ BF, you don't need that much of a dose because you are going to hold water like the Titanic. But then you take AIs to fight the bloat (which isn't what they were intended for) and then you usually try something else and fuck up the whole point of the cycle which is potential gains.
Roids only give you MORE OF THE SAME. Whatever you got, you get more of. Now someone with 7% bodyfat can handle 1 gram of test weekly because they are (at least they should be) packing down the protein and calories. YOU NEED PROTEIN. How do roid molecules travel in the body? By attaching to binding protein molecules. So it makes sense to use the high doses when you are eating like crazy and bulking right? Not when you are on a calorie stricted diet.
So why would you be bulking and eating like crazy if you are already overweight? That makes no sense.
People get caught up in this tunnel vision with their "goals" which turn out to be nothing more than fucking HABITS. Big difference. Always bulking, always trying to grow, always wanting the scale (and bar weight) numbers to go up. Why? 99% of the people on this board will never even compete in a national show. And the vast majority of that number shouldn't try either.
Roids are about body ENHANCEMENT. Call me crazy, but adding 15lbs of water with an increase of 4% BF is NOT an enhancement. WHEN YOU ARE ALREADY OVERWEIGHT TO BEGIN WITH. Bros come on here and take their body type and structure in the complete opposite direction of what will make them look good. What looks better? The guy on the cover of Flex Magazine year around and not just 1 week per year for his show or the guy on the cover of Mens Health who looks that way year around. Yeah go ahead and be macho and talk about how the Mens Health guy looks like a fag and everyone is bigger than he is. (as if. especially on this board.)
If you can't possibly become a top level bodybuilder, you shouldn't be attempting doses like this. And if you can become a top level bodybuilder you would already know it. None of this "after this cycle I am really going to look good." Your ass would already look good before you do the cycle.
Hate to rant, but I see guys come on here and do stuff that makes me wonder what shape they are going to be in when they turn 40. Edema, bloat, etc.. that only contributes to health problems later on.
This is your body. You only get one. Fuck it up how you wish but later on you are going to look back and see other people doing the exact same thing you did and go "wtf are they doing?"
Awesome Awesome post AAP!! I would rather look big and lean year round imo. Years ago it was to be as big as possible. I have changed that way of thinking since I want to take care of my body. I'm only 25 so I have a long time left!
I am working my ass off to look good before my next cycle. Won't do one unless I am satisfied.
As for a gram, no comment. only done 500.
I am working my ass off to look good before my next cycle. Won't do one unless I am satisfied.
As for a gram, no comment. only done 500.
cobracock1979
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I couldn't say because the test had me bloated and the vascularity I normally get from EQ wasn't like it should have been. If the test was lower, I could have more effectively judged the ratio increase of the EQ on a mg to benefit basis.
socalmuscle
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APP amazing post. kudos my friend.
702daswoll1
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I used to get caught up in getting bigger and bigger and having 20's and all that bullshit but I realized it was partly due to laziness of not wanting to diet or do cardio and shit like that. Now that im lean I love this and would never ever want to be a moon face marshmellow man ever again. Most of us do this for ourselves mostly but also to get more notice from the opposite sex. Beleive me when I tell you that a girl could care less about whether or not your arms are 20 inches when you have a 40 inch waist. They will take the bedroom body home with them EVERY single time. What does this have to do with doing a Gram of test a week? I have no fucking clue but thanks for letting me rant.
chazk
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The human body only has so many steroid receptors the testosterone floats around in the body if not binded to a recpetor site it starts to convert into estrogen ,estradiol, estradione,dhea,dht along with over 20 diff steroids and metabolites of steroids the list goes on , mainly becuase the body senses a huge amount of testosterone it starts to convertthe testosterone to other hormones to equal out the bodys hormones .
This can lead to side effects cuased by unwanted metabolites of steroids floating
I doubt anyone needs a gram of testosterone that 125mg a day more then 12-15 times what the body makes on its own.
the problem is alot of guys want gains fast so they use high doses, if you were to run 500mg test cycles vs 1000mg you might have to run the 500mg cycles longer or more of them , but chances are you will get close to the same results
This can lead to side effects cuased by unwanted metabolites of steroids floating
I doubt anyone needs a gram of testosterone that 125mg a day more then 12-15 times what the body makes on its own.
the problem is alot of guys want gains fast so they use high doses, if you were to run 500mg test cycles vs 1000mg you might have to run the 500mg cycles longer or more of them , but chances are you will get close to the same results
I have never done a gram of Test. Way overkill IMO
At 500-750mg no diff. Just a waste of Test. 500-600 is ample for me.
At 500-750mg no diff. Just a waste of Test. 500-600 is ample for me.
