Which human grade test?

[instant.muscle]

Which human grade test is your favorite?
i like
iranians test e
ICNs test e
nile and karachi sust

 

[Nelson Montana]

Which human grade test is your favorite?
i like
iranians testosterone enanthate
ICNs testosterone enanthate
nile and karachi Sustanon

If it's human grade it follows a guideline that must be exact. That's like asking, what's your favorite 5 ml aspirin. It is what it is.

 

[GUARDIAN]

If it's human grade it follows a guideline that must be exact. That's like asking, what's your favorite 5 ml aspirin. It is what it is.

exactly. i just conveyed this in the "other" human grade thread. this really only applies 2 ug.

 

[instant.muscle]

If it's human grade it follows a guideline that must be exact. That's like asking, what's your favorite 5 ml aspirin. It is what it is.

funny how coke and chek have the same guidelines by the FDA but dont taste the same, and some believe ICNs to be overfilled to 1.2cc, i asked for a reason, i also have a buddy who went and picked up a bottle of sust250 from walgreens 6 months ago and said it didnt compare to niles

Omnadren has the same compounds as sustanon but many many people still believe that it is more impure

iranians come from iran
niles from egypt
ICNs for Yugoslovia
and karachis from pakistan
not all the health codes r the same in these countries so isn't it possible that one could be more pure than the other?

 

[GUARDIAN]

funny how coke and chek have the sameguidelines by the FDA but dont taste the same, and some believe ICNs to be overfilled to 1.2cc, i asked for a reason, i also have a buddy who went and picked up a bottle of sust250 from walgreens 6 months ago and said it didnt compare to niles

Omnadren has the same compounds as sustanon but many many people still believe that it is more impure

iranians come from iran
niles from egypt
ICNs for Yugoslovia
and karachis from pakistan
not all the health codes r the same in these countries so isn't it possible that one could be more pure than the other?

though its true that specific countries will vary as far as these guidelines and many swear by a brand thinking its better bc they got better results this time around. it is more likely due 2 better rest, diet, and/or training not "better" or "impure" test if truly using pharm grade.

overfilling refers 2 a quantity not purity. if we r comparing which test is best then we compare like doses.

 

[Nelson Montana]

funny how coke and chek have the same guidelines by the FDA but dont taste the same, and some believe ICNs to be overfilled to 1.2cc, i asked for a reason, i also have a buddy who went and picked up a bottle of sust250 from walgreens 6 months ago and said it didnt compare to niles

Omnadren has the same compounds as sustanon but many many people still believe that it is more impure

iranians come from iran
niles from egypt
ICNs for Yugoslovia
and karachis from pakistan
not all the health codes r the same in these countries so isn't it possible that one could be more pure than the other?

That's not analogous. Coke and Pepsi use different flavors therefore they taste different. It has nothing to do with milligram strength which is the only factor in medications.

 

[al420]

I love all HG gear.

 

[instant.muscle]

though its true that specific countries will vary as far as these guidelines and many swear by a brand thinking its better bc they got better results this time around. it is more likely due 2 better rest, diet, and/or training not "better" or "impure" test if truly using pharm grade.

overfilling refers 2 a quantity not purity. if we r comparing which test is best then we compare like doses.

i never said which type of test i aske dwhat is ur favorite human grade of test, correct? and then after they named their fave i was going to ask why

 

[instant.muscle]

That's not analogous. Coke and Pepsi use different flavors therefore they taste different. It has nothing to do with milligram strength which is the only factor in medications.

no, i didnt say pepsi, i mean that chek shit that has the same exact ingredients but tastes different but if u dont understand what im trying to ask, nevermind

 

[GUARDIAN]

i never said which type of test i aske dwhat is ur favorite human grade of test, correct? and then after they named their fave i was going to ask why

gotcha. it sounded as if u wanted to know which was the best human grade test not favorite. my bad.

 

[Svengali]

This thread mirrors my thoughts.. What is making no sense to me is that there is a place that sells, for example: Cidoteston and Rotexmedica brand test Enanthate. One is 30% less expensive. Are they both the same?? Is it just demand? I remember a popular Russian guy that used to say when asked why X (pharmgrade) is better than Y (also pharm grade)... He used to say, " I dont know why its better, it just is..."

Any thoughts???

 

[Nelson Montana]

Maybe it's me but this thread and the direction of the questioning doesn't seem to be making any sense.

Are you asking what people perceive to be better even though a mg of test is a mg of test? If it isn't, then the company isn't dosing correctly. If they aren't dosing correctly, it isn't pharma grade.

 

[halfcenturian]

Pharmaceutical test. Watson or Upjohn. It's the same shit.

 

[DannoMight]

i always liked icn's

 

[instant.muscle]

gotcha. it sounded as if u wanted to know which was the best human grade test not favorite. my bad.

oh no bro dont apoligize it was a mistake, i really love niles and iranians, was jus seeing everyones fave and why they liked it and their good experiences, sorry if i sounded rude bro

 

[instant.muscle]

Maybe it's me but this thread and the direction of the questioning doesn't seem to be making any sense.

Are you asking what people perceive to be better even though a mg of test is a mg of test? If it isn't, then the company isn't dosing correctly. If they aren't dosing correctly, it isn't pharma grade.

well i was curious because they are made in different countries and who monitors their guidelines? and also whos to say ones powder is not better or more pure than the others, i mean i doubt there a worldwide powder dealership that every country goes thru

 

[socket]

Organon sustanon 250.

 

[xrsist]

Organon sustanon 250.

agreed..

 

[Svengali]

Maybe it's me but this thread and the direction of the questioning doesn't seem to be making any sense.

Are you asking what people perceive to be better even though a mg of test is a mg of test? If it isn't, then the company isn't dosing correctly. If they aren't dosing correctly, it isn't pharma grade.

I think the gist of the thread comes down to which are truly "pharm grade" vs counterfeits with legit stuff. I remember a time in the 90's when I would taper from 1 c of mexican sustanon preloads to 1.5 to 2.0 per week. The results were amazing. I never really exceed a total of 500 mg/wk and got ridiculous results. Nowadays, I am taking 2 cc's of T-400 along with 600 mg of deca and 50 mg anavar... The results are not even close to what the preloads and a 150 mg/week of laurabolin would produce.

I took a decade off any supplementation. So, I dont think I am totally shut down...

I really wish the testing labs did not get shut down... How nice would it be to put these newly popular amps to the test??

 

[georgie24]

The only actual gear in production thats human grade that i know of is ip that you can get without a script = )

 

[Swtrue]

I prefer ICN's. Very smooth and I got my best gains on it.


SWT

 

[Nelson Montana]

I prefer ICN's. Very smooth and I got my best gains on it.


SWT

Again, the only way that can happen is if it is either higher dosed than the others or the others are underdosed, in which case SOMETHING isn't pharma grade.

This is so simple guys, it really must be understood if we're expected to help people.

 

[Tux]

Nelson, for all your intelligence, I think you've missed the point. All human-grade is NOT exactly the same. Even in the US, generic medicine only has to contain within a certain percentage of the actual active ingredient... in most cases within 10%. Which is why my MD will never prescribe generic lasix, because even a 10% difference in dosage is dangerous. Also, these "human-grade" tests are made in different labs, in different countries, quite often from different sources of powder, oils, and solvents. Are you telling me that a different carrier, different powder source, and different lab techniques used to make the gear mean nothing? I agree, a mg of pure, lab-created test is a mg of test, but not all test is synthesized the same way, nor is it compounded the same way, even the same labs vary batch to batch. That being said, I prefer ICN's and Sustanon... even though sust sometimes stings with the prop in it, great results. Btw, no insult intended Nelson, just trying to clear the air a bit I probably flubbed things worse though, being a penguin and all

 

[instant.muscle]

sup tux, i used the iranians and liked them alot, my first cycle was nile sust so idk if i love them because they were my first and i exploded off them or what, anyway which sust r u reffering 2? niles or karachis or just any organon pharm?

Nelson, for all your intelligence, I think you've missed the point. All human-grade is NOT exactly the same. Even in the US, generic medicine only has to contain within a certain percentage of the actual active ingredient... in most cases within 10%. Which is why my MD will never prescribe generic lasix, because even a 10% difference in dosage is dangerous. Also, these "human-grade" tests are made in different labs, in different countries, quite often from different sources of powder, oils, and solvents. Are you telling me that a different carrier, different powder source, and different lab techniques used to make the gear mean nothing? I agree, a mg of pure, lab-created test is a mg of test, but not all test is synthesized the same way, nor is it compounded the same way, even the same labs vary batch to batch. That being said, I prefer ICN's and Sustanon... even though Sustanon sometimes stings with the testosterone propionate in it, great results. Btw, no insult intended Nelson, just trying to clear the air a bit I probably flubbed things worse though, being a penguin and all

 

[Nelson Montana]

Nelson, for all your intelligence, I think you've missed the point. All human-grade is NOT exactly the same. Even in the US, generic medicine only has to contain within a certain percentage of the actual active ingredient... in most cases within 10%. Which is why my MD will never prescribe generic lasix, because even a 10% difference in dosage is dangerous. Also, these "human-grade" tests are made in different labs, in different countries, quite often from different sources of powder, oils, and solvents. Are you telling me that a different carrier, different powder source, and different lab techniques used to make the gear mean nothing? I agree, a mg of pure, lab-created test is a mg of test, but not all test is synthesized the same way, nor is it compounded the same way, even the same labs vary batch to batch. That being said, I prefer ICN's and Sustanon... even though Sustanon sometimes stings with the testosterone propionate in it, great results. Btw, no insult intended Nelson, just trying to clear the air a bit I probably flubbed things worse though, being a penguin and all

A generic has to contain only 10% of the dosage listed? Who told you that?

 

[Latamier]

Mine personally is Cyp made here in the good ole USA. When comparing tests there are just way too many variables to consider from just trying a different kind here and there. The way I look at it is that the cyp I pick up from my pharmacy every two months hurts at the inj. site WAY less than any other brand. Also, I hold way less water when using a single ester test as compared to one like sust. Did this answer your question?

 

[Tux]

I did not say only 10%, I said WITHIN 10%. As in, if the name-brand contains 10mg, the generic must contain between 9.1 and 10.9mg. No more than 10% difference from the name-brand. Usually they are much closer, especially in more sensitive medications. I simply meant that these different brands and generics may follow looser, or simply different, rules, and they also are made from different raw materials, all of which affect quality, regardless of whether the amount of raw test measures the same. As for sust, I prefer the organon sust in clear amps... i think they had colored rings around the neck but it's been years so I don't know. The yellow-printed sust amps were pretty good too, but organon clear amps were my fav. of the susts.

 

[instant.muscle]

I did not say only 10%, I said WITHIN 10%. As in, if the name-brand contains 10mg, the generic must contain between 9.1 and 10.9mg. No more than 10% difference from the name-brand. Usually they are much closer, especially in more sensitive medications. I simply meant that these different brands and generics may follow looser, or simply different, rules, and they also are made from different raw materials, all of which affect quality, regardless of whether the amount of raw test measures the same. As for Sustanon, I prefer the organon Sustanon in clear amps... i think they had colored rings around the neck but it's been years so I don't know. The yellow-printed Sustanon amps were pretty good too, but organon clear amps were my fav. of the susts.

yeah thanks, the yellow are karachis and the green niles but which are the clear? u remember what color writing?

 

[Swtrue]

Again, the only way that can happen is if it is either higher dosed than the others or the others are underdosed, in which case SOMETHING isn't pharma grade.

This is so simple guys, it really must be understood if we're expected to help people.

You are one of the reasons that many don't want to reply to post. Chevy, Ford or whatever, they all are nice new and will all have a model equal to the competition. With that being said, everyone has a preference and in the beginning that is what was asked. I generally eat well and workout intense and rest good. The gelenka was my choice if that suits you best.

SWT

 

[DaveTSI]

if you can get your hands on the new Organon Infar India Sustanon try that. from what im hearing it is the shit. im going to pick some up soon.

other than that i would go with the karachis, im biased though i love sus

 

[Latamier]

A generic has to contain only 10% of the dosage listed? Who told you that?

This statement is absolutely true. I remember when I was going through my 3rd pharm class and was told this, I was like what the fuck. I could not understand how the pharmaceutical companies could get away with this. This is one of the reasons that generics are usually cheaper. Also, the next time you get a script filled, look at it closely. Most Drs. have their scripts made up so that they have the words printed on them that say brand only. If he checks this box the pharmacy should not give you a generic. We have also had patients call and complain that their insurance co would not pay for their script because the Dr. checked this box and, there is a generic available. Hope this helps clear the air.

 

[ALIN]

Which human grade test is your favorite?
i like
iranians testosterone enanthate
ICNs testosterone enanthate
nile and karachi Sustanon

if legit they are all good.

 

[Nelson Montana]

This statement is absolutely true. I remember when I was going through my 3rd pharm class and was told this, I was like what the fuck. I could not understand how the pharmaceutical companies could get away with this. This is one of the reasons that generics are usually cheaper. Also, the next time you get a script filled, look at it closely. Most Drs. have their scripts made up so that they have the words printed on them that say brand only. If he checks this box the pharmacy should not give you a generic. We have also had patients call and complain that their insurance co would not pay for their script because the Dr. checked this box and, there is a generic available. Hope this helps clear the air.

I'm sorry bro, this can't be. For some OTC stuff, yeah, a lot of generics just aren't the same and I question the dosing info. But for scripts, that's serious. If someone needs X amount of a medication and they get 10% they can get very ill. Generics of prescription drugs must fill the same guidelines established by the AMA and FDA. You can not say something contains 100mgs and it contains only 10mgs. Not in America at least. If that were the case, that'd be a lawsuit waiting to happen.

 

[Svengali]

I'm sorry bro, this can't be. For some OTC stuff, yeah, a lot of generics just aren't the same and I question the dosing info. But for scripts, that's serious. If someone needs X amount of a medication and they get 10% they can get very ill. Generics of prescription drugs must fill the same guidelines established by the AMA and FDA. You can not say something contains 100mgs and it contains only 10mgs. Not in America at least. If that were the case, that'd be a lawsuit waiting to happen.

You are right Nelson... and so are they. The problem is that we are talking about 10% variance limits. We are not saying that something has to contain 10% of the given compound.

 

[Nelson Montana]

You are right Nelson... and so are they. The problem is that we are talking about 10% variance limits. We are not saying that something has to contain 10% of the given compound.

Different story. Thanks. Though I would think there are still some medications that need to be balls-on accurate. In regard to depots, I guess the pharmacist can be off by a bit, but that has nothing to do with brand.

 

[buftup]

If it's human grade it follows a guideline that must be exact. That's like asking, what's your favorite 5 ml aspirin. It is what it is.

Well said

 

[instant.muscle]

if you can get your hands on the new Organon Infar India Sustanon try that. from what im hearing it is the shit. im going to pick some up soon.

other than that i would go with the karachis, im biased though i love sus

sust is also my fave!, never heard of these india's they supposed to be the bomb?

 

[SLAYER69!]

I don't consider anything made in a bass-ackward country like Iran or Pakistan to be human grade. But then I wake up and realize its 2007 and not 1992. Oh well, I guess this is the best you can get now. How sad.

 

[instant.muscle]

I don't consider anything made in a bass-ackward country like Iran or Pakistan to be human grade. But then I wake up and realize its 2007 and not 1992. Oh well, I guess this is the best you can get now. How sad.

i see what ur saying but the USA is starting to look like an assbackwards country

 

[SLAYER69!]

i see what ur saying but the USA is starting to look like an assbackwards country

Compared to what? certaintly not Iran. Please, don't get me started. I know this isn't C&C.

 

[DaveTSI]

Sustanon is also my fave!, never heard of these india's they supposed to be the bomb?

yes they just came out from what i know, they are the shit from what ive been told.

 

[instant.muscle]

Compared to what? certaintly not Iran. Please, don't get me started. I know this isn't C&C.

I love the US of A but our economy is turning into shit, and half our country voted a moron to be the president of the free world twice, makes us look like fucking idiots