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Skinny Ninja said:
I see where you're coming from and sorry for having annoyed you but when someone asked for my stats and regimine I was expecting them to recommend gear that would suit my needs. lol. I wasn't expecting it to be a question of whether I need it or not.

I asked your stats and goals to determine whether you needed gear or not. You have VERY modest goals that are EASILY achievable WITHOUT gear. You sound like you just want to be LAZY and waste money taking an unnecessary cycle(s) of HGH or steroids. Tsk, tsk.

Skinny Ninja said:
To be perfectly honest, I haven't made up my mind completely and if HGH is too expensive, I probably won't even bother to use testosterone. I'll just be like fuckit and just workout less.

HGH is expensive. The days of cheap UG HGH are gone (even then it wasn't "cheap").

Skinny Ninja said:
But it will almost immediately reduce the soreness, right?

No. You've been told what to do over and over, why the fuck are you still here arguing? 9 months is NOTHING! Jesus! You say you hit a plateau and have tried changing your routine and taking time off but "nothing" works. Well you haven't tried "everything". It's normal to hit a plateau after 9 months and gaining 30 lbs. Like I said in an earlier post, you need to eat more.

Fuck, everything you need to know for now to gain another 15 lbs. is all right here in this thread. It won't happen (naturally) in 12 weeks though. But, if you manage to dial it in and learn your body very quickly, you may gain that 15 lbs in another 6-12 months. That wouldn't be too bad huh?

Now, you gonna post up your routine? How many days are you training? Everything, weights, cardio, martial arts, etc.?
 
Monday:
(In the gym working upper-body.)
Incline BP 3 sets and 9 reps.
V Pullups (no weight) 2 sets and 7 reps
Dips (no weight, but going all the way down) 2 sets 9 reps
Rev. Lat Pulldowns 2 sets 13 reps
Bicep Curls 2 sets, 7 reps and 4 reps

Tuesday:
Squats 3x7,9,7
Situps 3x10
Calf Raises 2x7

Weds: Jiu Jitsu

Thurs: off

Friday: I would lift weights and go to jiu jitsu but since i'm probably over training I'll just do jiu jitsu.

Sat: off

Sun: off
 
Skinny Ninja said:
Monday:
(In the gym working upper-body.)
Incline BP 3 sets and 9 reps.
V Pullups (no weight) 2 sets and 7 reps
Dips (no weight, but going all the way down) 2 sets 9 reps
Rev. Lat Pulldowns 2 sets 13 reps
Bicep Curls 2 sets, 7 reps and 4 reps

Tuesday:
Squats 3x7,9,7
Situps 3x10
Calf Raises 2x7

Weds: Jiu Jitsu

Thurs: off

Friday: I would lift weights and go to jiu jitsu but since i'm probably over training I'll just do jiu jitsu.

Sat: off

Sun: off

That's not the 5x5. I don't see a back thickness exercise in there (like deadlifts). I would probably break up the mon-tues to mon-wed, or sat-mon.

I would think 3 days of weight training could be done even with jiu jitsu, but I'm not sure what all you're doing in jiu jitsu.

I do know that there's a guy on intensemuscle doing DC training 3 days a week who is also a wrestler (semi-pro or whatever). He travels a lot, lives out of hotels, always has to do his wrestling practices. He says it is much less taxing on him doing DC than when he was doing volume training...and DC is NOT a light weight program. It's also not for beginners, so I wouldn't recommend it to you.

I'd go with the 5x5 - as it is laid out, without changing anything. Or, try HST. That might be a good way for you to go too. Just don't go changing the program you do get on. It's too soon for you to do that.
 
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