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Where do you pin?
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What are you pinning?
How much are you pinning? ml?
How old are you?
Why not gluts?
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Johnny698
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I'm pinning 2ml 1ml of each dosed at 100mg/ml
I'm pinning test p and tren ace
I'm 23 and I was going to do glutes next
What gauge and length of needle are you using? If you are injecting with too large of a needle that can cause a lot of pain. Also make sure you swap needles out after drawing, and before injecting. A dull needle will not feel good, and just pushing into the vial will dull it.
2ml isn't too much IMO for your quads. Halfway up from the knee. I prefer a shorter 3/4 inch needles personally. I'm always afraid it will hit bone lol
Johnny698
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Yeah tonight I'm going to try glutes and Friday glutes again other side because Fridays legs
Johnny698
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Yeah it gets worse as the days go on lol first pin I did in one felt an in the other just 1c of prop an let me know when you feel your making gains idkbif it's possible but I swear I'm sweating a lot more already 3 days in but maybe in just wearing too many clothes lol, I'm doing mine for 10.5 weeks
Short esters need to be injeted in the largest muscle in the body. Gluts.
Prop is painfull. Dilute w 1ml of sterile GS oil.
Please don't fucking ask me where to get it.
sterile grape seed oil - Google Search
Prop is painfull. Dilute w 1ml of sterile GS oil.
Please don't fucking ask me where to get it.
sterile grape seed oil - Google Search
training700
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Prop and tren can both hurt so I would dilute it with some extra sterile oil
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Johnny698
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Yeah from what it sounds like its going to be glutes or quad , shoulders are painful
Try and inject the oil slowly too. That will help reduce pain as well
digit0x
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Quads. Even though it hurts I feel like its easier to push through with quads than any other muscle. But then again, I like quads so much I haven't tried much else.
Tux
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I use a 25g, 1 inch for over 1ml. For site injects I use a 29g, 1/2in pin. This works for 1ml in the pecs and tris. I've even done calves and bi's back in the day but those are more advanced and risky areas. For larger injects I use the glutes and quads, and I warm the oil up a bit. Using a 25g forces me to inject more slowly which also eases the pressure/pain. Also I like to inject before I exercise that bodypart so the oil gets dispersed better by working the muscle. Lastly... short esters usually hurt to some degree, it's just part of the price we pay 
Johnny698
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I use a 25g, 1 inch for over 1ml. For site injects I use a 29g, 1/2in pin. This works for 1ml in the pecs and tris. I've even done calves and bi's back in the day but those are more advanced and risky areas. For larger injects I use the glutes and quads, and I warm the oil up a bit. Using a 25g forces me to inject more slowly which also eases the pressure/pain. Also I like to inject before I exercise that bodypart so the oil gets dispersed better by working the muscle. Lastly... short esters usually hurt to some degree, it's just part of the price we pay
Yeah I pinne my glute and it didn't hurt at all
will be doing that for the rest of my cycle an will do quads also
Johnny698
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Yeah you should , still hurts but far more tolerable then shoulders, also pinned my quad to see how it would feel and it's not to bad either
ppgfreak
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I pin my legs more than anything. I will switch to my glut some times, but not a lot. If I'm doing prop or tren (eod pin) I will also do my chest and shoulders. I use a 25g 1" for everything except chest, I have 29g 3/4" for that.
But just a heads up, prop always hurts! Lol
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But just a heads up, prop always hurts! Lol
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Tux
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Not the prop I make myself! I think alot of UG's just put too much BA in their prop to keep it from crashing. I've made prop at 100mg/ml and that's never painful. Only when I get to 150mg/ml or more of short esters does it start to hurt, and then I can mix in a little EO to allow for less BA. Find a good brand and even prop shouldn't really hurt!
BA doesn't keep it from crashing the BB does. BA is to keep the bacteria that is in there or any new bacteria from growing. BA doesn't cause PIP either its not like lydocaine.
Prop pain has nothing to do with BA or else all short esters would cause PIP, prop pain is from the ester, which once injected into the muscle crystalizes for several reasons.
Tux
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Perhaps not for you, but whenever I added too much BA in my early days, it always caused more pain. Regardless of the concentration of the hormone. Injecting alcohol into the muscles WILL cause pain. The MAIN reason BA is used in injectables is b/c it's such a good solvent. It's much more powerful as a solvent than BB. The main reasons BB is used is to provide a secondary oil-based solvent to try and prevent the hormone from crashing once the water-soluble BA is absorbed by the tissues, and b/c BB also helps to decrease viscosity of the preparation. Why do you think human-grade gear uses ONLY BA and oil? B/c it's both the main solvent and a sterility agent. Sorry bro but BA is most likely the main cause of the pain... then the ester crashing out of solution hurts on top of that.
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Tux
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I've been working with human-grade gear for over a decade, both US and overseas brands, and I've been doing conversions for over a decade as well. Trust me, BA is the main solvent as well as the sterilizing agent, and BB is not used by most HG gear. Trust me, I've seen the formulas we use in compounding pharmacies to MAKE HG gear. But believe whatever you want, I'll just keep using my "old-school" incorrect and painless gear. You can have painful prop and blame it on the "ester"
I've been working with human-grade gear for over a decade, both US and overseas brands, and I've been doing conversions for over a decade as well. Trust me, BA is the main solvent as well as the sterilizing agent, and BB is not used by most HG gear. Trust me, I've seen the formulas we use in compounding pharmacies to MAKE HG gear. But believe whatever you want, I'll just keep using my "old-school" incorrect and painless gear. You can have painful prop and blame it on the "ester"
Lol yes it is. I don't need to trust you. I can read and I see BB listed as and ingredient in US grade pharm gear. You guys crack me up.
You go put on your lab coat in your compounding pharm and profess your knowledge.
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