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when did these high doses become the right thing?

georgie24 said:
lol ^^^


" gnat's"

that was the funniest post i read all night!!

The guys a mennace.
I'm sure he know 10x more than I do (or at least pretends to) but still, why does he constantly have to be instigating.
 
some guys need the higher doses to get to where they want to get, end of story--genetics. Easily know of guys taking 3.5g of Test alone. But they are competing.
 
There are a lot of misconceptions and misinformation on this thread.
Samoth, the doses here didn't double in the last five years. Go search ATLAS, BIZ, E2 RANGER, who were the MODERATORS on this board 7 years ago and read their cycles and the cycles they wrote for other. They are 3-5 grams a week.
Nelson, If you knew DD so well why don't you know what he wrote? It was DD that wrote about the possibility of unknown pathways when you use test over 5 grams a week. It was DD that first suggested using much higher dose cycles. That's where E2 and the others writing on this board were getting their ideas from, Dan Duchaine. And it's pretty common knowledge that Yates was using nearly 10 grams by the time he was doing his last O.
 
gymrat for life: Thank you for coming out and letting people know that.





srf173. It's very simple. I think my posts turn into an argument because I offer information that's new instead pandering to what people what to hear. I'd say most people either appreciate it or, at least, ponder it. But then there are some people (like yourself) who want to continue acting like big shots and giving advice that they pull out of their asses and get upset when it's discredited. Then they try to dismiss my words by picking them apart and when that doesn't work they begin attacking me persoanlly. I respond. And then they ask why my threads always turn into argument.

Does that answer your question?



worldclass: Well, I guess if those guys were MODERATORS they must know more than me, and Dan and Quadsweep and Larry Scott.

Dan Duchaine wrote about a lot of things and Dan loved exploring possibilities. He was a rebel and an innovator. But he was often guessing, and often wrong about a lot of things. We've spoken about what he used to personally recommend and what guys were actually doing 20 years ago and it was mild compared to what is being used by amateurs today. Maybe he told you something different.





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I'm not against people doing large doses, but my current cycle is the most mg and longest I've ever ran. Given that primo is in high doses it is pretty mild I have yet to go over 750mg of test ew. This will most likely be my last 'long' cycle. I htink I grow more effectively on 8-12 weekers.

I'm not gonna say I am scared to do larger doses, but I think my body would have a tough time handeling it.

I have done test, tren, winny, primo, var, deca and eq. Do I want to try other things like halo, anadrol, suspension, dbol?" Hell yeah, but I dont know if my body can handle such things. Everyone is different and can handle different compounds differently.
 
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DBBT said:
some guys need the higher doses to get to where they want to get, end of story--genetics. Easily know of guys taking 3.5g of Test alone. But they are competing.

There's your answer.
Not everybody has been gifted w/ good genetics and if someones training and diet are as good as there going to get, then their only other option is to runner higher doses to get where they want.
 
srf173 said:
Why does EVERY single thread that Nelson posts in end up in an arguement?
Damn, this guy is annoying, like one of those little gnats that just won't leave you alone.

Guys like Nelson and BigJd are not trying to force feed people their way. They are merely trying to get people to think for themselves and help them avoid costly mistakes via their experience. Some people take it as an attack. It's pretty clear that they are trying to help and you are taking it as an attack.
 
in all honesty i dont think the pros ever some off. low doses to baseline and maintain progress. high doses precontest to acquire the desired effect.
 
I'm not quoting what DD told me, I'm quoting what he wrote.
Posting something from a conversation leaves it up to the reader whether the conversation took place or not.

As far as who knows more you or the old moderators quoting DD goes, I don't know. I didn't say anything about that. My post was in reference to Samoth saying that high doseages are new in the last few years to this board. I only pointed out that no, they are not new. They've been posted here for over 7 years, and by moderators. Right or wrong.
 
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