what is your favorite Rock band of all time?

[Flah]

LOL....yes, the ORIGIONAL media generated, television hyped, mediocre talented, ego driven ("we're bigger than GOD") Boy Band who listened to and believed all the bullshit their "producer" and record company's publicity department fed them.

Who only changed the face of pop and rock forever.

 

[rnch]

Who only changed the face of pop and rock forever.

get real.

their (beatles) early music was rehashed versions of chuck berry, buddy holley and roy orbison. their later druggie stuff was derivitive pap copied from the byrds.

what they had going for them was record company publicity department generated hype.

 

[Flah]

Copied from The Byrds? How much crack do you smoke before you post?

It's only been stated over and over and over that the reason The Byrds got together was after watching a promo film on how to be a rock band featuring The Beatles.

Beyond that, they were the first pop band to use feedback as an artistic element. They were one of the major rock groups to break away from strictly using 4/4. They were one of the first rock groups to integrate other styles beyond country, blues, and R&B. They were one of the first pop groups to experiment with tape loops. And, you know, every major rock artist of the 60s saying that Sgt. Peppers was hugely influential. It even influenced Zappa who fucking hated that album to create We're Only in it For the Money as a response.

You can not like them. I'm fine with that. But, let's not be ignorant of the facts duder.

So, don't get mad because your precious Eagles broke no new ground stylistically.

 

[Mr. dB]

LOL....yes, the ORIGIONAL media generated, television hyped, mediocre talented, ego driven ("we're bigger than GOD") Boy Band who listened to and believed all the bullshit their "producer" and record company's publicity department fed them.

At this point you're either being willfully ignorant or you're deliberately trolling.

 

[rykertest]

get real.

their (beatles) early music was rehashed versions of chuck berry, buddy holley and roy orbison. their later druggie stuff was derivitive pap copied from the byrds.

what they had going for them was record company publicity department generated hype.

I agree.

 

[heatherrae]

Iron Maiden
Aerosmith

guns n roses makes me want to slit my wrists.

Oh yeah, I forgot CCR. I really love them

 

[Mr. dB]

get real.

their (beatles) early music was rehashed versions of chuck berry, buddy holley and roy orbison. their later druggie stuff was derivitive pap copied from the byrds.

Haha. The Byrds copied The Beatles, not the other way around. They were a folk band until Jim McGuinn saw "A Hard Day's Night" and bought a Rickenbacker electric 12-string guitar like Harrison's.

what they had going for them was record company publicity department generated hype.[/QUOTE]

In the US, Capitol Records tried their best to ignore The Beatles in hopes that they'd go away, and in 1963 they pawned off The Beatles recordings to VeeJay and Swan Records. It wasn't until the band's groundswell of grassroots popularity became undeniable that Capitol grudgingly exercised their option to release their material on Capitol in late 1963. They already had the #1 single in the US at the time before the first Ed Sullivan appearance.

What The Beatles did that changed pop music forever was to be self-contained. They wrote the songs, sang them, and played the instruments. At that time, the norm in pop music was for acts to sing songs chosen for them by producers, using professional studio musicians.

 

[rnch]

What The Beatles did that changed pop music forever was to be self-contained. They wrote the songs, sang them, and played the instruments. At that time, the norm in pop music was for acts to sing songs chosen for them by producers, using professional studio musicians.

you are misinformed.

brain wilson and the beach boys (also a capitol records group) was writing their songs, singing them and playing the instruments BEFORE your boys did.

the beatles "rubber soul" concept album was done AFTER "pet sounds" by the beach boys.

the beatles "let it be" was done in response to the beach boys "god only knows".

the beatles did not do anything that had been done by those before them.

what they DID have was a kick-ass PR staff.

 

[markmark]

Rush & Led Zeppelin

 

[Flah]

you are misinformed.

brain wilson and the beach boys (also a capitol records group) was writing their songs, singing them and playing the instruments BEFORE your boys did.

the beatles "rubber soul" concept album was done AFTER "pet sounds" by the beach boys.

the beatles "let it be" was done in response to the beach boys "god only knows".

the beatles did not do anything that had been done by those before them.

what they DID have was a kick-ass PR staff.

Le Sigh. Rubber Soul (December 1965) wasn't a concept album. The first concept album was Freak Out! by Zappa in '66, because it has a unifying theme that holds the album together (you know, a concept album). Pet Sounds (May 1966) wasn't a concept album either, so I don't see where you're going with this. Plus, Rubber Soul came out at least five months before Pet Sounds, so you just sound ridiculous anyway.

It's known that The Beach Boys and The Beatles were friends and competitive. They influenced each other.

But, The Beatles were still the frist pop group to use feedback as an artistic element in a recording. So there. There's an example of them doing something that wasn't previously done in the pop world.

See, the problem is that you've blinded yourself with your own bullshit. I don't care if you like the band, but saying they weren't influential is just stupid. It's like saying that Bird didn't change the face of jazz.