What is going to happen?

[Smokescreen]

Bro..i understand about you being pist etc..its your wife...thats a give in you be pist. But honestly is it that much this guys fault. How long has yoru wife been workin out? Did she not feel pain be4.?

Can you give an example of a day of excercises you have seen. She could be doing training 300 reps per minute as long as its controled she should be fine. You sure it had to do with PT?

She trains with me heavy and intense because i tell her too. I am her trainer just as she is mine. She has never had pain in 10 years. She trains with this dickhead who's training is fucking retarted and ends up injured! Its his fault, I'm sticking to that.

Not only have I but others told her NOT to train with him. Did she listen? No! Now look at her. No shoulder warm ups, no strecthes nothing!!!! Just heavy ass weights with excessive reps and only 10 secs rest in between. That is fucking nuts! Come on bro! You know how it is to do shoulders! You know the fucking pain and sworness after each set! Imagine only getting 10 seconds of rest and then start shoulder pressing 200lbs again! Can you do that? I highly doubt it! Highly!

 

[PolfaJelfa]

I hear you...beleive me. I know pain.

Let me ask you this. You know your shit......wtf is your wife training with some bozo?

 

[PolfaJelfa]

No warm ups, no stretching....i just saw that. Where is this fool training out of..Did you guys get him from the GYM...hes a gym trainer?

If so..sue the fucking GYM. Back when i used to PT for a while...i saw the craziest stuff.....people who had no idea about working out being hired and told they are getting certified personal trainers ( which doesent mean shit in itself).....certified nutritionists....it was all BS....and im not talking about a small gym chain either...were talkin about a major chain.

SUE THE FUCKERS!

 

[PolfaJelfa]

1/2 of the people in the PT industry cant even perform a proper workout. There is only a small amount of knowledgable and inteligent PT's.

SUE THEM if you have a case to win!

 

[Smokescreen]

I hear you...beleive me. I know pain.

Let me ask you this. You know your shit......wtf is your wife training with some bozo?

Who fucking knows! This got me fucking heated when she said this. Look at what she gets in return!

 

[PolfaJelfa]

I wouldnt be able to let my wife train with a PT. NO WAY. I can see why your so pist. PT have 1 thing on their mind. And its not workin out the people.

I think you got a good case if you have witnesses to the workout she was performing..no warm ups etc. Also....he probibaly isnt certified.

 

[iHulk]

She trains with me heavy and intense because i tell her too. I am her trainer just as she is mine. She has never had pain in 10 years. She trains with this dickhead who's training is fucking retarted and ends up injured! Its his fault, I'm sticking to that.
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CARTH, I know your are wicked frustrated but chill out for a few moments and lets get back to the issue brotha. Your wife is complaining about major pain in her shoulders. And only after a variance in her workout routine. So listen to this:

From the sounds of it and the pain that she is in [and mind you I'm NO DOC] but my girlfriend of 5 years was having the exact same problems. Bringing her to tears every day. It was unbearable for her, and for me to see her in so much pain.

We found out what is was and it wasn't good at all and I really want you to look into this because its a high probability. It happens to a lot of people (men and women).

Possible Labrum tear.
Definition of Labrum

Labrum: In medicine, a ring of fibrocartilage (fibrous cartilage) around the edge of the articular (joint) surface of a bone. The term labrum is used in anatomy to designate a lip, edge, or brim.

The glenoid labrum is a ring of fibrocartilage that runs around the cavity of the scapula (wingbone) in which the head of the humerus (the bone in the upper arm) fits. The labrum deepens this cavity (the glenoid cavity) and effectively increases the surface of the shoulder joint.

Injuries to the glenoid labrum can occur from chronic trauma due to repetitive shoulder motion or from acute trauma. For example, from a fall on an outstretched arm, a direct blow to the shoulder, a sudden pull from trying to lift a heavy object, or a violent motion like pitching a baseball.

Signs and symptoms of a glenoid labrum injury include pain accompanying overhead arm motion, occasional pain in the shoulder at night or during daily activities, decreased range of motion and loss of strength in the shoulder.

Treatment may include anti-inflammatory medication and rest. Exercises to strengthen the rotator cuff muscles may then be recommended. If these measures are not effective, arthroscopic surgery may be done.

-Think about the shoulder joint as a shelled out tennis ball at the end of a pole (rotator) and holding that rotator “tennis ball” in place is the Labrum (a small fibrous cartilage that is smaller than the tennis ball), but inside of that shell keeping the tennis ball from detaching from the pole. A sort of ring binds to the pole and tennis ball. And if that tears, the only thing holding that shoulder locked in place is muscle! So really the only option is PT and strengthen the muscles around it. In any case have it checked out via MRI.

Let me know bro.
Spydah

 

[pendit]

CARTH, I know your are wicked frustrated but chill out for a few moments and lets get back to the issue brotha. Your wife is complaining about major pain in her shoulders. And only after a variance in her workout routine. So listen to this:

From the sounds of it and the pain that she is in [and mind you I'm NO DOC] but my girlfriend of 5 years was having the exact same problems. Bringing her to tears every day. It was unbearable for her, and for me to see her in so much pain.

We found out what is was and it wasn't good at all and I really want you to look into this because its a high probability. It happens to a lot of people (men and women).

Possible Labrum tear.
Definition of Labrum

Labrum: In medicine, a ring of fibrocartilage (fibrous cartilage) around the edge of the articular (joint) surface of a bone. The term labrum is used in anatomy to designate a lip, edge, or brim.

The glenoid labrum is a ring of fibrocartilage that runs around the cavity of the scapula (wingbone) in which the head of the humerus (the bone in the upper arm) fits. The labrum deepens this cavity (the glenoid cavity) and effectively increases the surface of the shoulder joint.

Injuries to the glenoid labrum can occur from chronic trauma due to repetitive shoulder motion or from acute trauma. For example, from a fall on an outstretched arm, a direct blow to the shoulder, a sudden pull from trying to lift a heavy object, or a violent motion like pitching a baseball.

Signs and symptoms of a glenoid labrum injury include pain accompanying overhead arm motion, occasional pain in the shoulder at night or during daily activities, decreased range of motion and loss of strength in the shoulder.

Treatment may include anti-inflammatory medication and rest. Exercises to strengthen the rotator cuff muscles may then be recommended. If these measures are not effective, arthroscopic surgery may be done.

-Think about the shoulder joint as a shelled out tennis ball at the end of a pole (rotator) and holding that rotator “tennis ball” in place is the Labrum (a small fibrous cartilage that is smaller than the tennis ball), but inside of that shell keeping the tennis ball from detaching from the pole. A sort of ring binds to the pole and tennis ball. And if that tears, the only thing holding that shoulder locked in place is muscle! So really the only option is PT and strengthen the muscles around it. In any case have it checked out via MRI.

Let me know bro.
Spydah

That's some good info. Carth, god knows what kind of fucked up arm/shoulder motions this guy had your wife doing. I can't believe his "training" style. Dude sounds like a real tool. You said other people told her not to train with him. Why? Do they know he does shit really wrong too? I agree with Polfa, a lawsuit might be in order, especially if others are saying the dude is bad. Get the MRI and see what's going on in there.

 

[Mr.X]

Whoa. Cortisone is NOT a "play hurt" pain-killer like vicodin. It is a potent anti-inflammatory, in the steroid family.

Saying that cortisone "isn't a cure" is a little bit beside the point; sure, it would be great to fix everything by finding and treating some underlying cause, but sometimes treating the symptom is the only thing that can be done. Maybe the cause was something trivial and your wife's immune system got a little carried away in responding to it. Cortisone tells the immune system to chill out.

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The only way to get rid of this problem is to find the cause of the symptoms, which is not widely done in WM. Having first 'hand' experience (pun intended ) with tendonitis in the wrist region, I was surprised to learn that the root of the problem was caused by a neck strain. However, all the wonderful doctor would recommend was cortisone shots and surgery - after the surgery (2) the pain came back, worse then ever. I came to find out that the surgery has a 50/50 chance of succes, whoa! how's that's for something they didn't say before they took the cash.

To make a long story short, $25K later with alternative medicine specialists and the problem was gone for life, but not before shots after shot of cortisone and 2 surgical procedures - which did absoletely nothing but hasten the problem.

 

[LT3]

The only way to get rid of this problem is to find the cause of the symptoms, which is not widely done in WM. Having first 'hand' experience (pun intended ) with tendonitis in the wrist region, I was surprised to learn that the root of the problem was caused by a neck strain. However, all the wonderful doctor would recommend was cortisone shots and surgery - after the surgery (2) the pain came back, worse then ever. I came to find out that the surgery has a 50/50 chance of succes, whoa! how's that's for something they didn't say before they took the cash.

To make a long story short, $25K later with alternative medicine specialists and the problem was gone for life, but not before shots after shot of cortisone and 2 surgical procedures - which did absoletely nothing but hasten the problem.

Exactly.