What do u guys think of frontloading?

[BadBoy20]

I was thinking of front loading with 2gram testoviron depot.....for the 2 first weeks........along with 50mg russian d-bol and 8iu slin!

And then from week 3 take 1g test,50mg d-bol,75mg fina eod and slin......

From week 4 i`m going to stopp the slin and d-bol......and add 50mg winny and 100mg Masteron ED through out the last 4 weeks!

What do u think guys?????


Thanks!!!!!!!

 

[BadBoy20]

bump

 

[BadBoy20]

BUMP!!!!!!

 

[Zyglamail]

I think frontloading is the only way to go, however, it can be done incorrectly too. In my eyes a frontload should get blood levels up to what the rest of the cycle will be at as soon as possible, without causing a huge spike and a subsequent drop in blood levels. Consistency is they key in my book. As to how to best frontload, that varies with the AAS and dosage. I personally like to fiddle with the numbers and graph things out so see where I want to be.

 

[basskiller]

Why are you doing so much test?

Have you done other lower cycles with no results?

 

[BigCarp]

Are you saying that you are going to take 1 gram of test EOD from week 3????? Maybe I misunderstood you, but that sounds a little crazy and very expensive to me.

Carp out................

 

[Zyglamail]

What he is saying is that his cycle is 1 gram a week, but for the first two weeks he is doubling the dose.

Its really not all that crazy if its planned properly. Blood levels can only raise so fast, it takes time for our bodies to remove the ester so its not like a frontload is going to necessarily going to get your blood levels any higher than the cycle would, it would just do it faster. Once again, you need to run the numbers (if you ask me) to make sure you get levels to the theraputic level your cycle would normally hit without going way over and having them plumet later.

 

[Andy13]

Zyg is on the money.

I think it is important that guys realize that front-end loading, in terms of rapidly increasing blood androgen concentrations, is no different than swallowing 50mg dbol/day in the beginning of a cycle.

Although, IMO, front loading an injectable is better than using dbol in the beginning of a cycle.

Also, the amount to be loaded is dependant on the drug used. For instance, a 3x load can be used with deca and eq without "over shooting" the max mg/day that would be seen mid cycle. However, a 3x load with testosterone cypionate will over shoot the mg/day max seen with xmg/week on this cycle.

This doesn't necesarily mean that it's "bad" to do this, although sides in the beginning are likely to be greater than what is expected with a straight xmg/week dosage pattern.

 

[Trevdog]

Good post.

When you think it out, front loading makes perfect sense and really should be considered one of the key fundamentals of planning a cycle. Andy, Zyg, and others have posted some really good threads on the subject. It really hits home when you see the graphs, so a search would be in order.

I'm coaching a guy that started a cycle yesterday. Yesterday, I had my "friend" inject 1250 mg. of Aratest in his glutes, 750 mg. of deca in his right quad, and 600 mg. of Eq. in his left quad. For good measure, today I had him site injected 50 mg. of prop and 50 mg. of eq. in each tricep.

His dosages for the next several weeks will be 600 mg. of cyp, 400 mg. of deca and 200 mg. of eq. Hopefully therapeutic levels will be reached in the first week and maintained throughout. He will also use prop at the end so that levels can be kept high until the end, and quickly drop so that clomid therapy can begin.

Of course, he is also taking 50 mg. of dbol per day for the first week, 35 mg. per day for the next 3 weeks. hehe Do you think he is overshooting a bit at first?

 

[Jan]

I started cycle yesterday by 400 mg of test. prop. at once, it is short ester and will cause my blood levels will go high very soon.

I will do this ED for 10 days and in sequence I will add LONG esters like Enantate, etc...

And last 3 weeks of my cycle I will finish Enantate and replace it by propionate, to be able after I finish whole cycle start with Clomid therapy soon and not waiting another 2-3 weeks.

So, the result should be HIGH blood levels of test during whole cycle and FAST START and also FAST FINISH.

I will use also Winny 100 mg EOD for first 5 weeks and then replace it with Deca. Also Dbol from 60 to 30 mg/day.

Jan