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Were Ramstein, FHMO(or something), Marlyn Manson Responsible For Columbine?

And just to retake what all of you are saying. So it would be fine for me to write a song about how to make a bomb and blow up a govt building. Is that what you are saying. Or what if I wrote a song about the best way to send anthrax around the country. I could totally sing these suckers at the top of lungs and be totally free from any reprisals. Cool this free speech stuff seems peachy.
 
curling said:
Why is Charley in jail? I don't get it.

Also yes I read what that fruitcake ugly faggot wrote. And you know what it sounds like somebody getting ready to defend themselves from a liability claim. The lead satanist that Manson pleged to probably helped him write it. You ever seen that dude boy he is work of art.

Your arguments are based purely on your opinions that Marilyn Manson is satanic, which is, I'm sorry to say, childish. You are unwilling to budge from your claims. The point of a debate is to present viable views on a subject, hoping to educate a few and turn a few heads. And you must ALWAYS be open-minded.

What would you be saying if YOUR daughter was the sole orchestrator of this attack? Would you quickly point the finger at someone else? Yes, you probably would, because you wouldn't want to accept the fact that you fucked up as a parent.

curling said:
And just to retake what all of you are saying. So it would be fine for me to write a song about how to make a bomb and blow up a govt building. Is that what you are saying. Or what if I wrote a song about the best way to send anthrax around the country. I could totally sing these suckers at the top of lungs and be totally free from any reprisals. Cool this free speech stuff seems peachy.

You are blowing this way out of proportion. No one ever created a song telling anyone how to manufacture explosives, or blow up a government building. And no, you cannot sing this at the top of your lungs. Free speech is one thing. Disorderly conduct causing chaos = you get arrested.
 
gettinlarger said:


Your arguments are based purely on your opinions that Marilyn Manson is satanic, which is, I'm sorry to say, childish. You are unwilling to budge from your claims. The point of a debate is to present viable views on a subject, hoping to educate a few and turn a few heads. And you must ALWAYS be open-minded.


Are you open minded?

What would you be saying if YOUR daughter was the sole orchestrator of this attack? Would you quickly point the finger at someone else? Yes, you probably would, because you wouldn't want to accept the fact that you fucked up as a parent.

Yes, I would have messed up by not catching it. But would i be solely to blame especially since I sent her the govt schools that they make me send my kids too since there is no voucher program because the govt wants to raise my kids because afterall they get more time with her than I do. My wife couldn't be there during the day because of the high taxes we pay she has to work too. Or the music that our govt allows our kids to hear without reprisals for the sake of free speech.


You are blowing this way out of proportion. No one ever created a song telling anyone how to manufacture explosives, or blow up a government building. And no, you cannot sing this at the top of your lungs. Free speech is one thing. Disorderly conduct causing chaos = you get arrested.

"Going to the schoolyard looking to kill I want to put red welps on your white skin." You're right that sound totally orderly and in no way would promote chaos. Do you really look at this stuff with an open mind do you?

What should be the next song from these freaks how can I kill the most children in a daycare. That should be big hit.
 
gettinlarger said:
The stupid dumbfuck kids were responsible for Columbine. Saying that music made them do it is just pure ignorance. No one fucking takes responsibility anymore. Everyone is always so quick to throw the blame on someone else.

Well said!
 
curling said:
"Going to the schoolyard looking to kill I want to put red welps on your white skin."

Hm.

I think I've gotten swept up in the many subsequent topics we've been covering and have forgotten things people have said.

Thus, I'm just going all the way back and supporting my original argument, which lucidBlue was nice enough to agree on. It's the kids fault. The lyrics you posted, curling, are damn disturbing. However, I do not hold them responsible for any murders. Harris and Klebold (or whatever his name was) may have very well listened to that song. It doesn't mean it drove them to kill. Even if that gave them inspiration, it's no one's fault but their own for thinking it meant to ACTUALLY commit murder.
 
The Nature Boy said:
curling, your posts make me want to go kill someone. Therefore you should be censored.

the end.

What are they making to much sense now? Don't leave natureboy. What do you think about my new song about how to kill the most children at a daycare before the cops come. I mean nazis rammstein or the fruity faggot one blue eye cyclopse should pay big money for those lyrics.
 
gettinlarger said:


Hm.

I think I've gotten swept up in the many subsequent topics we've been covering and have forgotten things people have said.

Thus, I'm just going all the way back and supporting my original argument, which lucidBlue was nice enough to agree on. It's the kids fault. The lyrics you posted, curling, are damn disturbing. However, I do not hold them responsible for any murders. Harris and Klebold (or whatever his name was) may have very well listened to that song. It doesn't mean it drove them to kill. Even if that gave them inspiration, it's no one's fault but their own for thinking it meant to ACTUALLY commit murder.

They are disturbing. Thanks for admitting that. And that is what I have been trying to say. Listen, I love this country because of the free speech but with something as powerful as freespeech also come responsibility. And obviously these bands don't take that responsibility seriously. And are the kids really the responsible ones aren't kids a product of the society we supply?

Even if that gave them inspiration, it's no one's fault but their own for thinking it meant to ACTUALLY commit murder.

Couldn't Charlse Manson use that same argument as a defense in his trial? Maybe he should have used you as his attorney. (this was a joke dude I am just trying to make a point)
 
curling said:
Couldn't Charlse Manson use that same argument as a defense in his trial? Maybe he should have used you as his attorney. (this was a joke dude I am just trying to make a point)

Please familiarize yourself with Charles Manson.
 
No need I have seen plenty on that nut(short bald ugly dude with a x on his forehead) . But what I am saying is how do you know that rammstein didn't intend for the words to actually mean to murder in a school yard?
 
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