Were Ramstein, FHMO(or something), Marlyn Manson Responsible For Columbine?

[curling]

You asked IF it had been my kids.

I stand by my statement.

Fine. So if it was in fact your kids you wouldn't try to find out why these kids went killing that day. I mean killing people that hadn't even picked on them.

Don't you believe in freewill?

That everyone makes their own choices in life?

Ok I will go with this yes. Now let me ask you this do you think kids are easily influenced moreso than adults? Also do you believe in advertising?

 

[Chester_Copperpot]

What truth hurts or what? Is that the best debating you can do? To tell me to quit. Come on chester show me what you got?

What's going to hurt is me uppercutting your sperm target of a jaw and igniting the combustible stupidity steaming out of your cranial orifices.

Bottom line, when it comes down to it, those kids at the time of the shooting were not thinking about some lyric they heard from whatever artist they listen to, they were not in a circle warming up their vocal chords singing " the beautiful people " , they had carefully planned an attack on the innocent, they used what everyone has, free will, free will to do whatever, that "whatever" may cost you your life or jail time. You can't blame music as the sole resource for the Columbine incident or related occurences.

 

[WODIN]

I think its actually harder to influence kids than it is adults. Kids have a natural distrust of things. Adults are more prone to conditioning than kids are.


As for extended liability in this act...

I'd personall hunt down the parents of these two fucksticks and beat the shit out of them. That'd be my revenge.

 

[powerforward]

spellcheck please.

 

[curling]

Wow finally starting to get some actual arguments. It interesting they you concur that the songs did contain words about killing kids on the school ground. But you think that if it wasn't the songs it would have been tv, movies or some other source for idea. So inotherwords the media did influence these kids to kill or how to kill that is. In otherwords the reason this happened now and not in the 50s is the demoralization that has happened over the last 50 years because of media influence.

Wodin, as much I like you dude. You are mistaken about kids are the most easily influenced segment. Communist always start with kids when they want to start a movement because they are not set in there ways yet they are still being molded.

 

[gettinlarger]

You are mistaken about kids are the most easily influenced segment. Communist always start with kids when they want to start a movement because they are not set in there ways yet they are still being molded.

I agree. Remember "Hitler's Youth?"

I really must disagree with your arguments here curling. Like I said, everyone likes to put the blame on something else. Everyone always wants the easy way out. No one wants to believe that their kids were capable of executing such a brutal and obviously long-thought-out attack. Music is just a scapegoat here.

It's like the kid who shot himself because "Judas Priest" told him to. That's the biggest cop out I've ever heard.

 

[curling]

Getting larger. I have some more proof but I am late to see a flick with the fam. I will respond when I get back. Oh thanks for agreeing with me about kids. Be back around 2 central.

 

[gettinlarger]

Getting larger. I have some more proof but I am late to see a flick with the fam. I will respond when I get back. Oh thanks for agreeing with me about kids. Be back around 2 central.

Cool man. Have fun.

This debate is quality.

I doubt you have "proof" though. There is no way to prove what you are implying. But, I would like to see what you have homey.

 

[curling]

Here's a interesting observation what is the difference between Charles Manson and the bands in question afterall he didn't kill anyone he just suggested to the stupid chicks to do it yet charlie is in jail and ramstein, fhmo, and marylon satanic dumbass manson are still free singing their propaganda to get more kids to kill. I guess they have better attornies than manson did.

Also do you agree music has power over people? Do you remember the thread about what bands make you hostile or something like that? And posters put several differents songs and bands that make them "Feel" hostile. Have you ever seen the footage from Woodstock when fred dumbass durst tells the people their are no rules out there and chicks were raped right and left and severe chaos was happening. Oh yea I forgot it is just music.

 

[posthuman]

This has got to be a joke thread.

Curling,you seriously suggest Art should be censored?Where do you draw the line on what is allowed in a lyric or a book?