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Were Ramstein, FHMO(or something), Marlyn Manson Responsible For Columbine?

posthuman said:
This has got to be a joke thread.

Curling,you seriously suggest Art should be censored?Where do you draw the line on what is allowed in a lyric or a book?

I didn't say anything about censored. That would be wrong. But if some "artist" thinks killing kids in their songs is "art" in the first place then they should be able to be sued just as a automobile manufacture can be sued for making a defective that kills people.
 
I think the problem is far from music or whatever other excuse we have when kids get involved in something so tragic. It's the freakin' PARENTS fault for not knowing there kids! I've listened to metal all my life. I've never had the urge to run out and kill my classmates! Well, maybe...:D
 
pwr_machine said:
I think the problem is far from music or whatever other excuse we have when kids get involved in something so tragic. It's the freakin' PARENTS fault for not knowing there kids! I've listened to metal all my life. I've never had the urge to run out and kill my classmates! Well, maybe...:D

Yes, some of the blame is the parents fault. But you could go so far as to say it is the govt fault to. For having taxes so high it forces both parents to work therefor give the rockbands(which don't give two shits about the kids afterall they are telling to kill others and do drugs) more time to influence the kids during the day then the people that loved and brought the kid in the world.
 
Nathan said:
I for one sure am glad we have the dumbest person EVER posting here on EF.

IF you associate dumb with stating the truth instead of believing lies I guess i am glad to be dumb.
 
I agree that it's the parents fault. They have obviously missed something in their child's life if they go out and shoot their classmates!

It also goes along with this emerging theme in America where everything that goes wrong is somebody else's fault. No one wants to take responsibility for their actions. So these kids go and shoot up their school. Oh it must be the music they were listening to or the tv they were watching or the video games they were playing. No, it couldn't possibly be the people that raised them.
 
bigguns15 said:
I agree that it's the parents fault. They have obviously missed something in their child's life if they go out and shoot their classmates!

It also goes along with this emerging theme in America where everything that goes wrong is somebody else's fault. No one wants to take responsibility for their actions. So these kids go and shoot up their school. Oh it must be the music they were listening to or the tv they were watching or the video games they were playing. No, it couldn't possibly be the people that raised them.

Just curious did you happen to see my post on the parents roles on kids. And shouldn't society also have a role in raising our kids too? I mean would you care if the teachers in public schools say if you get pissed off at somebody waste their ass.

Another thing what if a preacher told a kid to waste another one would you hold that preacher responsible. Well don't you think the artist that makes money off these dumb kids should be responsible for what they tell them?

Did you know that two kids stabbed a girl because of slayers influence on them. Sheesh if that would have been daughter I would not have killed the stupid whacks that listened to that trash but also the people that delivered it.

I mean do ya'll forget the ole saying garbage in garbage out? Guess what its true unless you want to put your artsy fartsy blinders back on and refuse to see it.
 
hey curling, are you really Joe Leiberman?

the kids were fuckd up from the start. bottom line. what also was fucked up is how certain groups of ppl [jocks and rich kids] were able to shit all over those below them. im sure tat sense of hopelessness contributed to there rampage.

eric harris killed dylan klebold, then killed himself. a study of pictures of the bodies showed that.

finally, everyone seems to think violence in movies etc startd i the 90s. not true. anyone remember cowboy movies? where the good white guys killed the evil indians? plenty of those movies, and i dont recall shit like this happening back in the day. hunting was also very popular. so really, unless you trying to hang this on society rather than the brutal class system in school and underlying mental illness, i think you can see that your contention that violent movies/music caused columbine is ridiculous.

i also like violent/sexual movies/tv/video games/music. im not going to give them up for a couple numbnuts.

by your standard, if i went out and offed a whole room full of young republicans because of your opinion in this thread, you should also goto jail. hows that sound?
 
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