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Well done Barry. This is the show of force we need

Uh, he did. Obama and Putin have been talking about this "solution" for month. This isn't something that just sprung fully-formed from John Kerry's forehead last week.

Even Barry won't claim that they've discussed it before the Russian summit. Wasn't that last week?

But then again, this us surely bush's fault anyway.

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Even Barry won't claim that they've discussed it before the Russian summit. Wasn't that last week?

But then again, this us surely bush's fault anyway.

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If this was bush, putin would have clued him in from day 1 instead of letting him make a fool of himself before saying "put down the bombs, i will take it from here"

Putin doesnt respect obama because "Hope" isnt a foreign policy.
 
They havent been talking about shit. Otherwise the media would have been all over it so obama could at least in part take credit for a peaceful resolution in syria. All weve heard from obama have been war drums. Putin show up with the best solution for peace and now obama looks like a fool.

For Putin, Syria weapons deal would be masterstroke

The president said talk between the United States and Russia about securing the Syrian chemical stockpile dates back to a conversation he had with Putin at a G-20 summit in Los Cabos, Mexico, last year.

Wasnt on Fox News or WND so I'm sure you probably missed it.

I think Obama has handled this whole situation pretty horribly, but youre retarded if you think all Obama has been about has been "war drums." If the guy wanted to strike he wouldnt have brought the issue to congress. I think that was (mistakenly) what he though was a master political move: If Congress votes for it, they are on the hook for sending the US to war. If they vote it down, they are in favor of Assad killing kids with sarin. Didnt work out that way.

Really reinforces the hyper-partisan nature of this country (or at least the immature portion of the population) when people bitch about who gets "credit" when we should be thankful that an opportunity to keep us out of another conflict is being seriously considered.

Turkey, Israel and Jordan are definitely breathing a sigh of relief.
 
For Putin, Syria weapons deal would be masterstroke



Wasnt on Fox News or WND so I'm sure you probably missed it.

I think Obama has handled this whole situation pretty horribly, but youre retarded if you think all Obama has been about has been "war drums." If the guy wanted to strike he wouldnt have brought the issue to congress. I think that was (mistakenly) what he though was a master political move: If Congress votes for it, they are on the hook for sending the US to war. If they vote it down, they are in favor of Assad killing kids with sarin. Didnt work out that way.

Really reinforces the hyper-partisan nature of this country (or at least the immature portion of the population) when people bitch about who gets "credit" when we should be thankful that an opportunity to keep us out of another conflict is being seriously considered.

Turkey, Israel and Jordan are definitely breathing a sigh of relief.

Yea going to congress and getting an overwhelming vote for war really worked out well for bush. Obama was facing a majority of congress voting him down on going to war, which is a first for an American president by the way. Obama is a weak leader who knew he had the power to go to war without congressional approval but punted it to congress anyway in an attempt to blame it on those meanie republicans either way it went. Just like his punting of the implementation of Obamacare until conveniently after the 2014 elections. As far as credit goes, Obama/Kerry are going to be the first to claim all the credit. I dont see obama praising putin for this "masterstroke". And dont be naive to think washington and obama dont care who gets credit as long things work out in the end. Who said "Never let a good crisis go to waste"? It was Obamas Boy, Rahm I beleive. Its politics and image and perception always matters.
 
Yea going to congress and getting an overwhelming vote for war really worked out well for bush. Obama was facing a majority of congress voting him down on going to war, which is a first for an American president by the way. Obama is a weak leader who knew he had the power to go to war without congressional approval but punted it to congress anyway in an attempt to blame it on those meanie republicans either way it went. Just like his punting of the implementation of Obamacare until conveniently after the 2014 elections. As far as credit goes, Obama/Kerry are going to be the first to claim all the credit. I dont see obama praising putin for this "masterstroke". And dont be naive to think washington and obama dont care who gets credit as long things work out in the end. Its politics and image and perception always matters.

*credits*
 
Obama was facing a majority of congress voting him down on going to war,

Starting to think you didnt read my post.
Obama is a weak leader who knew he had the power to go to war without congressional approval but punted it to congress anyway in an attempt to blame it on those meanie republicans either way it went.

Wait, I thought you were all about the Constitution bor? Isnt going to Congress what he should have done? I'm about as confused as you are now.
 
Also, my point was why do you give a shit about who gets credit? Thought you were one of the enlightened few who went around saying both parties are exactly the same and that only American Idol watchers take sides? :confused:
 
Also, my point was why do you give a shit about who gets credit? Thought you were one of the enlightened few who went around saying both parties are exactly the same and that only American Idol watchers take sides? :confused:

I thought you cleared up that whole going-to-war-without-congressional-approval-is-constitutional-afterall thing for us all? Its a nice gesture obama wanted to go to congress first but lets not kid ourselves as to the reasoning for it. And lets face it, the constitution has been trashed for at least 40 years and Im not holding my breath for obama to suddenly make it relevant again with scandals like NSA, IRS. At least the states are beginning to tell the fed govt to fuck off so they can each make the constitution relevant again.
Obama now proves both parties are the same, surely you can now see that? The Chosen One committed the Cardinal Sin of wanting to needlessly go to war in the mideast and now he gets his well deserved comeuppance. Both parties are addicted to middle east meddling and the only cure for this addiction is oil independence from the middle east. Until then expect more of the same from the next president and the one after that.
 
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