very slow gains

[stevesmi]

I certainly respect your opinion. Give me a sample of what I should change. Thanks bro

here is an example of a typical breakfast for me which yielded me amazing results

2 whole grain waffles with natural honey
2 turkey/chicken sandwiches on ezekial bread with tons of lettuce, tomatoes (onions are great too but i dont like them)
2 cups of berries
2 cups of quality water
1 bowl of organic oatmeal
2-3 hardboiled eggs

that is what your breakfast should be alone

a protein shake and an egg for breakfast isn't gonna cut it. notice you are getting protein and complex carbs with that breakfast. you are also getting nutrients from the veggies, and anti-oxidants from the fruit. its a quality breakfast and your muscles will feed off of it. also i would recommend you do some starved cardio BEFORE eating this breakfast since you are a bit heavier and older then most guys and ur goals might be a bit different

 

[Juiced91]

here is an example of a typical breakfast for me which yielded me amazing results

2 whole grain waffles with natural honey
2 turkey/chicken sandwiches on ezekial bread with tons of lettuce, tomatoes (onions are great too but i dont like them)
2 cups of berries
2 cups of quality water
1 bowl of organic oatmeal
2-3 hardboiled eggs

that is what your breakfast should be alone

a protein shake and an egg for breakfast isn't gonna cut it. notice you are getting protein and complex carbs with that breakfast. you are also getting nutrients from the veggies, and anti-oxidants from the fruit. its a quality breakfast and your muscles will feed off of it. also i would recommend you do some starved cardio BEFORE eating this breakfast since you are a bit heavier and older then most guys and ur goals might be a bit different

Wow thats a breakfast and a half.. ha ha i eat 10 eggs 8 egg whites 2 whole eggs. And a Bowl of oats with some fruit. I have seen good results just by that i couldnt imagine what i would see eating that..

 

[stevesmi]

Wow thats a breakfast and a half.. ha ha i eat 10 eggs 8 egg whites 2 whole eggs. And a Bowl of oats with some fruit. I have seen good results just by that i couldnt imagine what i would see eating that..

its important to mix things up. not have the same thing every morning. this way to balance the different nutrients you are putting in your body. also i would alternate things for example. one morning scrambled eggs, the next hardboiled eggs, etc. i know for me if i were to eat boiled eggs for a week straight i would start getting gassy from them. but if i mix it up i avoid that.

 

[Zyglamail]

I agree on diet aspect. Have you actually totaled calories and nutrient breakdown (ie carbs, pro, fat)? My guess would be your not eating enough and metabolism us tanking because of it. If your doing standard moderate rate cardio your also oozing cortisol which is totally counterproductive to mass gains. Your body fat is high enough where you can gain mass and lose fat on a caloric deficit but it cant be very large. Your age will also be a factor. I work out 4 times a week, one dedicated strength day (deads, squat, overhead press) and 3 other days where I typically do one compound strength movement (deads, squats, oly lifts etc) followed by a CF style metcon. Im only on TRT and according to bod pod measurements have gained 5lbs of muscle and lost 5 lbs of fat in the last six weeks and total body weight has remained constant. Ditch anything processed which includes bread and pasta. Rice is empty but if your having problems getting carbs from leafy greans and fruits try barley, much higher in fiber and has a lower glycemic impact and has about the same texture as rice.

You need to become strict on recording your diet so you know how much of what your getting and how many cals per day. Everyone is different so all the recommendations in the world here will get you in the ball park but you need to tweak it yourself. You cant narrow it down to what works if you cant identify what doesnt work. Ideally this kind of diet and workout experimentation should be done before you start a cycle so you can make the most out of your cycle. Experimenting with diet and workout potentially wastes a lot of the potential benefits from a cycle.

 

[footdoc]

A big thanks to all of you! Thats a shit load of food steve. I just don't know if I have it in me to eat that much!

 

[stevesmi]

A big thanks to all of you! Thats a shit load of food steve. I just don't know if I have it in me to eat that much!

your workouts should be fierce on cycle, enough where your body is begging for more food.

 

[Deltoid_87]

here is an example of a typical breakfast for me which yielded me amazing results

2 whole grain waffles with natural honey
2 turkey/chicken sandwiches on ezekial bread with tons of lettuce, tomatoes (onions are great too but i dont like them)
2 cups of berries
2 cups of quality water
1 bowl of organic oatmeal
2-3 hardboiled eggs

that is what your breakfast should be alone

Thats a ridiculous amount of food. I don't know anyone who can eat that much in one serving most people would throw up... how big are u 300lbs ?

 

[ALIN]

Ok I've done my research but I am still not gaining at the rate that most of you guys do. My stats are age:51 body fat:22% height 5'11'' weight: 200. My diet consists of oatmeal or cereal in the morning. Protein shake with 70 grams of protein about 2 hours after breakfast lunch is usually peanut butter sandwich on multi-grain bread. Another protein shake with 70 grms of protein after workout. Dinner is usually chicken or beef with brown rice. Snack before bed is usually tuna salad and ritz crackers.
My cycle has consisted of 100 mg of tren ace eod. Test cyp 500 mg twice per week. I take unleashed every day and take hcgenerate everyday. I also did hcg in mid cycle.
Overall I look more muscular but havent gained a ton of strength and have only gained 6 lbs of muscle in 2 months.

I'm betting your not eating enough. Whats your nutrient breakdown of protein,,fats,,and carbs?
Sounds like your taking in very little carbs. You need them to grow.

 

[stevesmi]

Thats a ridiculous amount of food. I don't know anyone who can eat that much in one serving most people would throw up... how big are u 300lbs ?

I am 180. notice the foods i listed are healthy and nutritious. they wont make you fat as long as you are doing some kind of workout ED which you should be doing on cycle. no couch potato activities while on cycle!

breakfast should be the largest meal of the day. that is the diet you must have to succeed in gaining mass and strength.

the body just spent 8 hours without food while you were asleep. you better feed it when you get up

every 2 hours eat atleast a snack. as the day goes on you lessen the meals size. dinner should be the smallest, breakfast the largest. 8 hours of quality sleep. its money in the bank. dont forget SLEEP, very important.

do it and NO ONE will be complaining of slow gains!!

 

[RADAR]

I am 180.

breakfast should be the largest meal of the day. that is the diet you must have to succeed in gaining mass and strength.

the body just spent 8 hours without food while you were asleep. you better feed it when you get up

every 2 hours eat atleast a snack. as the day goes on you lessen the meals size. dinner should be the smallest, breakfast the largest. 8 hours of quality sleep. its money in the bank. dont forget SLEEP, very important.

Nice to see someone here has really been paying attention!
Good advice steve.