Ultimate Fighter, Season 2

[Djimbe]

If Elbows were legal, many of those tournaments would be impossible to do. Too much bleeding.

I know , thats why I made the last sentance in my Post .


I still think the man was right when he said "WHAT ?!?!?! In Russia , we dont Stop for Blood !"

 

[Yarg!]

Hey Djimbe, about the NY thing, I'll probably come there in like 1.5 years, lol, but I'll still take your offer up on it. You like Peking Duck?

 

[Djimbe]

^ exactly,ufc is now one fight not tourny style,and for multiple fights you would end up with who got lucky making it to the end not the best fighter. I like pride for what it is and ufc for what it is

They shouldnt give wins for bleeding . I mean , you can CHOKE out , you can get KNOCKED out ... why cant you just Bleed out ? Just because a guy is a Bleeder dosent mean that he cant slap a RNC on a guy before hes out of AB- ! They should at LEAST go to the Scorecards or SOMETHING !

 

[Djimbe]

Anyone notice that the fights in UFC are starting to be more of stand-up striking, rather than groundwork? Do you think that's because of the evolution of fighting styles starting to learn more about defending against groundfighters? Or do you think that the Powers-That-Be behind the UFC are pushing for more fighters of the stand-up game to add more excitement to the current fights to pull in interest with this new tv audience?

Neither !

It was NEVER all that hard to Defend . Look at Royce/Kimo ! Kimo was a PURE SCRUB back then , but he corner told him to REFUSE tro go down , and he sent Royce to thew Hospital .

Ppl didnt know what they were getting into back then , and the system made a HUGE Impact because ppl were TOTALLY Ignorant of it . Defending against Takedowns and subs isnt as hard as it is to Apply them . Folks used to just never see them coming !

 

[Djimbe]

Hey Djimbe, about the NY thing, I'll probably come there in like 1.5 years, lol, but I'll still take your offer up on it. You like Peking Duck?

Oh , man ! Have you seen a Pic of me ? THere isnt a KIND of Animal I wont eat ! YOu have to come to Big Wong (yeah , funny name) on Mott Street though - Best Chinese in the CITY ! THe Spicy Shrimp is the JOINT , man ! THeir Congee is to die for , as is their Mei Fun !

 

[mm107]

im actually not feeling season 2, too commercial and they dont have as much heart. my .02 cents. still gonna watch in hope it gets better

 

[Djimbe]

Djimbe what's the story on iron bags
are they bags of sand?

Well , firstly theyre not "Iron" anymore theyre Steel now - turns out the Excess Iron can poison/OD your Bloodstream and make you sick ... There Canvas Bags filled with everything from Rice>MungBeans>Sand>Stones>SteelShot>SteelBallBearings the movement of the material inside the bag makes for absorbing the shock , and the level of the Filler makes for the Conditioning Level . I personally never go past Steel Shot on any Bodypart except my shins and Forearms .

Fully Filled :
http://www.wle.com/products/tigerBags.html
http://www.wle.com//store/ironskills.html

Do-It-Yourself :
http://www.wle.com//products/m0811.html
http://www.wle.com//products/m0813.html

the First you can Tie to a Wooden Dummy to toughen the Impact beyond the level of Wood , the second can be used alone as a Wallbag for striking at different Levels .

 

[Snypr]

I am not sure about this... Think about the current Champs:
Hughes ( Ground Fighter)
Franklin (Striker)
Lidell (Striker)
Orlovsky (Striker)

3 out of four are predominantly strikers... I think a striker, who has great ground defense and enough ju jitsu to survive defensively and occasionally submit a guy, is the superior fighter.

Guys are getting so good at defending the ground game and fights are becoming more stand up... Even the best fighters in Pride are standup guys... Silva, CroCop, Fedor. Not to say a submission expert will have no success, but it seems like the top echelon are strikers with great ground defense.

I'm not against strikers(I'm one), but I just keep seeing great standup guys neutralized by high-level groud fighters.
Hughes has done it to some skilled boxers.
Franklin, I can't comment on until I've seen more of his fights(I only saw him fight Shamrock).
Liddell's standup was useless against Couture's takedowns in the first fight(Did you see the rematch? I didn't see it)
Arlovski has GREAT hands, but hasn't faced any takedown experts.
Silva definitely proves your point. He's a killer with strikes.(but I don't remember if he's faced any world class ground guys)
CroCop(another of my favorite strikers) eventually got taken down and submitted by Minotauro(world class groundfighter)
Fedor has more than just strikes.
Tito's hands were neutralized by Randy's takedowns.
Overall, I think we agree about great hands plus great takedown defense being a good thing. It's just the mechanics of it that always leaves a standup fighter vulnerable, if the ground guy is good enough.

 

[Yarg!]

The best fighter would probably have Boxing's punches, Muay Thai's knees and elbows and kicks, Greco + San Shou takedowns and BJJ + Sub Wrestling ground fighting.

 

[Snypr]

The best fighter would probably have Boxing's punches, Muay Thai's knees and elbows and kicks, Greco + San Shou takedowns and BJJ + Sub Wrestling ground fighting.

Yeah, I thoroughly respect well-rounded fighters.
If a guy had all the things you mentioned, barring a glass jaw or stamina issues, I bet he'd be champion for a heck of a long time.