Triple Threat Protien Shakes...

[Legion Kreinak]

Alright I went to mass quantities.com and read up on those TT Protien shakes. They sound good and all, but I think it was frorider in that old-school 3 day workout that says he drinks 3 a day? I have a few questions (again, sorry, I know)

1) Why 3? It recommends 1 a day.

2) They say you need 1 to 1.5 grams of protien per pound of body weight! That means I need nearly 200 grams a day!? How is that at all sensible? I always heard between like 50-70 was a good source of protien. I think they may just be saying that to sell their product.

 

[The Shadow]

why is all what possible - 3 shakes = 180 grams less than one gram/per pound...

I don't see your point

 

[gymtime]

The 50-70 gr thing is outdated information. Even if it were current, those amounts apply to people who are sedentary, not weightlifters. To gain muscle, you need at least 1.5 gr per lb of bodyweight. And that's not marketing, that's training nutrition 101.

 

[Legion Kreinak]

Oh, alright... thanks guys. I didn't know it was outdated. Sucks a lil though, considering if I want to get the necessary amount of protien, I have to drink at least 3 shakes a day! I was planning on one a day, which means I'm supplied with a month worth. With this lil plan I get only 10 days or so worth...

By the by, how much would it really hinder my muscle growth if I have only 50-100 grams a day as opposed to 180-200? Would I still develop, just not as quick? Or is the protien not THAT big a differnece in muscular growth?

 

[The Shadow]

wel you CAN eat real food ya know...2 cans of tuna are 65 grams

 

[gymtime]

wel you CAN eat real food ya know...2 cans of tuna are 65 grams

Yessireebob. Remember, protein shakes are supplements. Meaning they supplement your regular diet, not take up half of it. Besides, liquid protein will digest much quicker than real food. That makes it great for post workout, but not ideal for a meal.

Getting your protein allowance isn't as difficult and expensive as you might think. Canned tuna and chicken, and even some steaks are pretty cheap and protein rich. Checkout fitday.com and check out some nutritional values. It's a good resource.

 

[gettinlarger]

I used to drink them. But, I think they're useless. Just eat. You'll get PLENTY of protein if you eat well.

 

[The Shadow]

...there should be NO doubt as to Whey effectiveness as a post-w/o source of protein vs. anything in terms of whole food

 

[Legion Kreinak]

Well my diet is typically the following:

Breakfast
------------
Bowl of total cereal (many vits and minerals for nutrition)
serving of 1% milk
serving of OJ (vitamin C and pottassium)

Lunch
-------
Can of tuna on whole wheat bread (13g per serving, 2.5 servings means like 32 grams of protien)
serving of OJ or milk

or

12" tuna sub from subway with lowfat chips
serving of OJ or milk

Dinner
--------
more tuna, milk and OJ usually
money's tight now so I can't exactly have steaks every night

 

[The Shadow]

not enough protein or calories for that matter

 

[Legion Kreinak]

Yeah, I figured as much, but what would you recommend I add to my diet? The calorie thing doesn't bother me, oddly. And I do at least an hour of basketball a day, plus I generally just walk alot. I don't know what else I can really add to those three meals. I hear to have 5-6 meals a day, but that doesn't sound accurate. If I was to eat that many though, what should it consist of?

 

[lemur]

this is what i would add:



Breakfast
------------

Bowl of total cereal (many vits and minerals for nutrition)
serving of 1% milk
serving of OJ (vitamin C and pottassium)
3-4 whole eggs


Snack: Banana + Handful of almonds


Lunch
-------
Can of tuna on whole wheat bread w/melted cheese on it
serving of OJ or milk
if you can, make a turkey/chicken burger or a skinless chicken breast. if not, have some toast and butter.


or

12" tuna sub from subway with lowfat chips
serving of OJ or milk


Snack: protein shake or beef jerky. or just grab a gigantic handful of ham like I do


Dinner
--------
more tuna, milk and OJ usually
skinless chicken breast/turkey/beef/anything
baked potato and/or rice


before bed: a scoop of all natural peanut butter and a big glass of milk.

drink at least a gallon of water, and if you can take in a protein shake after basketball.

 

[Legion Kreinak]

Dammit, the problem is we're tight on money so getting alot of that shit is going to be a problem. I can get ham cold cuts from the deli, toast is not a problem, just need more bread for my tuna too, and eggs I have to learn how to make. Parents are home maybe 3 hours a day, so I'm on my own alot of the time.

 

[ROLGOR]

Protein shakes are not cheap. for what you pay for a months worth You can buy a WHOLE bunch of boneless skinless chicken breasts on sale. look for them in the family pack. There is a lot of cheap protein out there if you look. watch for sales of tuna ect.

 

[Cap'n Cooke]

here's my diet. cheap, easy, tasty.


morning:
protein powder
tablespoon nat pb

mid-morning:
oatmeal
cottage chese

lunch:
tuna

mid-afternoon:
protein powder

afternoon: oatmeal

post-workout:
n-large

before bed:
cottage cheese

toss in some metamucil and pb, rounds off to about 3350 cals.

 

[Exodus]

i dont drink shakes right now, im getting married so i cant afford them.

but i question the old 1 or 1.5 grams of bodyweight of protein.

to me, or at least it seems, i can lay of the protein, eat healthy fats, and get not gain fat by eating all the carbs i want.

my diet analagy looks like this.

70% carbs.
20% protein.
10 % fat.

i may be crazy, but less protein and more carbs works better for me.

X

 

[b fold the truth]

Eat 2 cans of tuna at a time
Eat lots of plain white rice (lots)
1 pound or more of hamburger a day
3 Chicken Breasts a day
A pound of pasta a day

B True

 

[Legion Kreinak]

I would B, but truth is, that's much more than I can stomach. I don't have that big an appetite.

 

[gettinlarger]

I would B, but truth is, that's much more than I can stomach. I don't have that big an appetite.

Start eating something every like 2-3 hours. When that's easier, ease it down to every 2 hours. You'll be amazed as to how easy your body adapts to eating so much.

 

[Legion Kreinak]

I don't wanna get fat. -_-

 

[teen1216]

Eating more often will increase your metabolism.

 

[gettinlarger]

Dude, you will only get fat if you eat like crap. Eat clean, train like an animal, and you will put on quality mass.

 

[b fold the truth]

I would B, but truth is, that's much more than I can stomach. I don't have that big an appetite.

I didn't say that it would be fun...forcing our bodies to be what we want it to be never is...

B True

 

[JDarty6173]

For the past month I have been mainly concentrating on my protein intake, getting between 500 and 600 grams per day...That is at a lean 225 pounds... My reason for this is that since I started training WSB a couple months ago I have felt like I was having a hard time recovering from my workouts.. So I just cut back on the fat and carbs and jumped my protein... And it worked like a charm... And Put on a quick lean 15 pounds in the past month also..Its really not that hard to do once you get in the habit of constantly consuming food or shakes every couple hours.... In the past I have gone up to 700 grams when bulking....I haven't been keeping up with my calories or anything though, but the reason I cut the fat and carbs was that I am gonna start making some powerlifting meets starting in Sept or October and I want to stay in the 220's for now and work on taking some Alabama state records there...

If money is an issue then go to SAMS...you can buy cases of tuna and huge bags of Chicken breast for like half of the normal cost...Not to mention Rice, Mac-N-Cheese, Pasta and all kinds of bulkin up goodies..And for Protein supplements go with Proteinfactory.com 's weight gainer formula... With carbs and fat it is like $3.50/pound and I think about $4.55 for the protein only...Thats alot cheaper than anwhere else you'll find it....