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TREN sides worth gains??

i have a tren log up which details the sides i was dealing with. everyone is different.

i've run tren alone btw and i've run it with test and masteron.

both instances the 2 sides i had to deal with were pumps and de-hydration. if you like to go heavy the pumps are gonna mess you up after a few sets, and it will end up hurting your strength which i detail in my log. granted i got very strong on it, once i got the pumps i wouldn't be able to push many reps anymore cause of the pain. i remember after a few heavy sets on the bench actually going on the floor in agony, my arms and shoulders felt it.

de-hydration is a pain in the ass cause it made it hard to do cardio and if i sweated a lot from a workout i felt close to naseous. i was drinking a lot of fluids and it never seemed to be enough no matter how much i drank.

is it worth those 2 sides? i have no idea.. i've made good gains on many different AAS. tren i feel will give you fast and solid results. something like primo or masteron take time to see a difference so to a lot of guys they fall in love with tren for that reason.

my best advice if you want to try tren is go with ace and cut it to 6 weeks at 100 EOD... make sure you run cabaser while on. then continue with something else for a few more weeks that isn't too harsh, to allow the tren to clear out fully.. and make sure you line up a solid PCT. the nice about ace is that if the sides become too much you can always stop it vs. with E which has a longer ester
 
Run Tren A as stated above. 300-400 of tren is good. tren is 6x more potent than test! If you run it id run 12.5 t3 1000 taurine, 1000 vit c, 9000mg of krill oil or fish oil, prami/caber, forma stanzol, t100 pct for t3, life extension one with chromium, cooper on it. N2Gaurd also if you cant buy these STOP dont do the cyc imo. Pct unleashed
 
Not in my opinion.

I think it sucks. Most weird mood altering AAS out there in a weird way. Not a standard androgen anger, but a weird pissiness. No sleep for weeks on end...

Primo at higher doses works fairly close minus feeling awful.
 
I am doing a tren only cycle
600mg tren Ace per week
ATM.

Nothing beats tren. Amazing gains and strength and fat burner love it


Motivation is all you need for big muscles.
Go hard or go home. MOFOS
 
Run Tren A as stated above. 300-400 of tren is good. tren is 6x more potent than test! If you run it id run 12.5 t3 1000 taurine, 1000 vit c, 9000mg of krill oil or fish oil, prami/caber, forma stanzol, t100 pct for t3, life extension one with chromium, cooper on it. N2Gaurd also if you cant buy these STOP dont do the cyc imo. Pct unleashed

is the t3 for a cutter? wouldn't it be counterproductive if you're bulking?
 
Run Tren A as stated above. 300-400 of tren is good. tren is 6x more potent than test! If you run it id run 12.5 t3 1000 taurine, 1000 vit c, 9000mg of krill oil or fish oil, prami/caber, forma stanzol, t100 pct for t3, life extension one with chromium, cooper on it. N2Gaurd also if you cant buy these STOP dont do the cyc imo. Pct unleashed

I don't take any of the supplements you have mentioned. Should I stop doing cycles to? Lmao

All I need is good food, right gear and hard training.



Motivation is all you need for big muscles.
Go hard or go home. MOFOS
 
is the t3 for a cutter? wouldn't it be counterproductive if you're bulking?

the dose he mentioned is just to replace your natty production, which i believe tren lowers after some time on it... another side...

i dont run it long, and not at even 'standard' doses anymore... 75mg/ WEEK of acetate is plenty for some amazing gains... ive ran it high before and i felt much worse... also the worst sides are coming on and off, as your blood levels rise and fall... id be willing to bet that those with the absolute worst sides are probably playing around with the dosage too much...

stevesmi, my pumps were not unbearable at all, and you know i lift heavy... go figure... i dont get dehydrated from it either... and im not the best at getting in tons of water...
i do get some crazy dreams, and my wife notices im a lot edgier, so i will keep it to 4 week blasts,
this cycle is going somthing like this
1-? test 1g/wk
1-4 tren 75mg/wk
5-10 npp 350/wk
5-12 winstrol 25mg/day

...the tren is almost gone and im pretty much getting ready to start making a lot of new PR's... should be a very productive cycle...
 
So I've been pretty observant over the last couple months on the site and reading as much as I can on Tren. I haven't seen anyone say that it isn't a great compound but I want to know from previous users- what are the major sides and how good are the gains verse the sides?

Tren is the most powerful injectable there is. That being said, the sides can be bad. This will very from person to person. It is definitely worth trying, but start with ace. If you do have adverse effects it wont last long when you stop.


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