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lartinos
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It's worth a try!
romin
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I've run very high doses of tren enanthate without any sides
other than night sweats.
I was able to sleep ver well - so in my case it is worth it and plan
on running it again for my next cycle.
Just like EZ-E says - I've hear of other people not being able to sleep well.
Everyone is different though...
I would go for it and see how you do with it.
other than night sweats.
I was able to sleep ver well - so in my case it is worth it and plan
on running it again for my next cycle.
Just like EZ-E says - I've hear of other people not being able to sleep well.
Everyone is different though...
I would go for it and see how you do with it.
johnnyboy3689282
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Night sweats here.... And that just from you increase in your metabolism and your body burning them calories while your sleeping. I swear on tren i feel the most ripped and striated after waking up and doing early morning cardio on BCAAS and empty stomach... You get hard, you get dry gains, you get vascular, and you get strong as an OX... and every bitch will want you...
Oh hell yea... just gotta be careful
curls4girls
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I ran tren and loved it. Changed my physique drastically. But it effed up my blood pressure so bad I will NEVER touch it again. I had to get a prescription med for my BP.
Chopzilla
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For sure! The night sweats and insomnia was a bitch, when I was able to sleep I was usually a really light sleeper so any little noise would wake me up. Sweats had my sheets and pillow damp if not soaked but god damn its like everyday I looked in the mirror I noticed a new change.
Results were fantastic and you may notice your manhammer a lil more swole too!
Results were fantastic and you may notice your manhammer a lil more swole too!
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ALIN
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TREN is one of the most amazing AAS ever created. Alot of the sides in my opinion are dosage related,,people take far too much than whats really needed for gains.
I took tren @ 100 mgs eod for 10 wks.. Not many sides..bp was a little high..liked it a lot but I feel my diet wasn't anywhere near what it should have been took it with sust and prop..def a noticeable difference in physique but not drastic..put on about 12 lbs.. Went from 228-230 to 242 and dropped a little bf (with a shitty diet). The good thing is I'm three weeks into pct and am holding at 239.. I stretched the test way past the tren..my next cycle is in march and I will def have my diet on point..
Iol it's pretty unanimous! So I guess I Should definitely work it into my cycle. I'm gyno prone (had surgery to remove it in the passed) so what are my worries with that?? Also how would you incorporate tren and or modify my cycle below:
1-10 500mg test e
1-4 beastdrol 20mg (if necessary)
50mg proviron per day
1-10 500mg test e
1-4 beastdrol 20mg (if necessary)
50mg proviron per day
Lmao
You guys aren't making it easy for a noob to stay off tren!
hey noob, stay off tren!!! easy enough for you? its not recomended for a noob, get a few simple cycles under your belt before you really consider tren.....my opinion. but to each his own i guess
gatemoney
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Yeah bro, i ain't touching that shit!
Was just a jk.
Got me a nice simple sust cycle lined up for #3
johnnyboy3689282
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Id get to the point where i not making gains off 500mg/ml. Then i would add a DHT deriative.... And then as i was stopping making gains, i would introduce 19 nor compounds.... take things in steps. Mr olypmias arnt build in 5 years....
So would 300mg /wk of Tren E with 500mg /wk of Test E be a good starting dose....
I haven't heard anyone talk about hair loss on this stuff as a side....anyone have a problem with MPB on Tren?
I haven't heard anyone talk about hair loss on this stuff as a side....anyone have a problem with MPB on Tren?
i have a tren log up which details the sides i was dealing with. everyone is different.
i've run tren alone btw and i've run it with test and masteron.
both instances the 2 sides i had to deal with were pumps and de-hydration. if you like to go heavy the pumps are gonna mess you up after a few sets, and it will end up hurting your strength which i detail in my log. granted i got very strong on it, once i got the pumps i wouldn't be able to push many reps anymore cause of the pain. i remember after a few heavy sets on the bench actually going on the floor in agony, my arms and shoulders felt it.
de-hydration is a pain in the ass cause it made it hard to do cardio and if i sweated a lot from a workout i felt close to naseous. i was drinking a lot of fluids and it never seemed to be enough no matter how much i drank.
is it worth those 2 sides? i have no idea.. i've made good gains on many different AAS. tren i feel will give you fast and solid results. something like primo or masteron take time to see a difference so to a lot of guys they fall in love with tren for that reason.
my best advice if you want to try tren is go with ace and cut it to 6 weeks at 100 EOD... make sure you run cabaser while on. then continue with something else for a few more weeks that isn't too harsh, to allow the tren to clear out fully.. and make sure you line up a solid PCT. the nice about ace is that if the sides become too much you can always stop it vs. with E which has a longer ester
i've run tren alone btw and i've run it with test and masteron.
both instances the 2 sides i had to deal with were pumps and de-hydration. if you like to go heavy the pumps are gonna mess you up after a few sets, and it will end up hurting your strength which i detail in my log. granted i got very strong on it, once i got the pumps i wouldn't be able to push many reps anymore cause of the pain. i remember after a few heavy sets on the bench actually going on the floor in agony, my arms and shoulders felt it.
de-hydration is a pain in the ass cause it made it hard to do cardio and if i sweated a lot from a workout i felt close to naseous. i was drinking a lot of fluids and it never seemed to be enough no matter how much i drank.
is it worth those 2 sides? i have no idea.. i've made good gains on many different AAS. tren i feel will give you fast and solid results. something like primo or masteron take time to see a difference so to a lot of guys they fall in love with tren for that reason.
my best advice if you want to try tren is go with ace and cut it to 6 weeks at 100 EOD... make sure you run cabaser while on. then continue with something else for a few more weeks that isn't too harsh, to allow the tren to clear out fully.. and make sure you line up a solid PCT. the nice about ace is that if the sides become too much you can always stop it vs. with E which has a longer ester
Ripp42
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Run Tren A as stated above. 300-400 of tren is good. tren is 6x more potent than test! If you run it id run 12.5 t3 1000 taurine, 1000 vit c, 9000mg of krill oil or fish oil, prami/caber, forma stanzol, t100 pct for t3, life extension one with chromium, cooper on it. N2Gaurd also if you cant buy these STOP dont do the cyc imo. Pct unleashed
Bigdaddystev
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Worth every pin and sleepless night.
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UA_Iron
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Not in my opinion.
I think it sucks. Most weird mood altering AAS out there in a weird way. Not a standard androgen anger, but a weird pissiness. No sleep for weeks on end...
Primo at higher doses works fairly close minus feeling awful.
I think it sucks. Most weird mood altering AAS out there in a weird way. Not a standard androgen anger, but a weird pissiness. No sleep for weeks on end...
Primo at higher doses works fairly close minus feeling awful.
Gearjunkie
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I am doing a tren only cycle
600mg tren Ace per week
ATM.
Nothing beats tren. Amazing gains and strength and fat burner love it
Motivation is all you need for big muscles.
Go hard or go home. MOFOS
600mg tren Ace per week
ATM.
Nothing beats tren. Amazing gains and strength and fat burner love it
Motivation is all you need for big muscles.
Go hard or go home. MOFOS
gymjunkie09
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is the t3 for a cutter? wouldn't it be counterproductive if you're bulking?
Gearjunkie
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I don't take any of the supplements you have mentioned. Should I stop doing cycles to? Lmao
All I need is good food, right gear and hard training.
Motivation is all you need for big muscles.
Go hard or go home. MOFOS
the dose he mentioned is just to replace your natty production, which i believe tren lowers after some time on it... another side...
i dont run it long, and not at even 'standard' doses anymore... 75mg/ WEEK of acetate is plenty for some amazing gains... ive ran it high before and i felt much worse... also the worst sides are coming on and off, as your blood levels rise and fall... id be willing to bet that those with the absolute worst sides are probably playing around with the dosage too much...
stevesmi, my pumps were not unbearable at all, and you know i lift heavy... go figure... i dont get dehydrated from it either... and im not the best at getting in tons of water...
i do get some crazy dreams, and my wife notices im a lot edgier, so i will keep it to 4 week blasts,
this cycle is going somthing like this
1-? test 1g/wk
1-4 tren 75mg/wk
5-10 npp 350/wk
5-12 winstrol 25mg/day
...the tren is almost gone and im pretty much getting ready to start making a lot of new PR's... should be a very productive cycle...
Tren is the most powerful injectable there is. That being said, the sides can be bad. This will very from person to person. It is definitely worth trying, but start with ace. If you do have adverse effects it wont last long when you stop.
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yeah that isn't suprising.. proves everyone reacts differently to the sides. the pumps were non existant until around week 4 or 5 but the de-hydration was there the whole way. but then again I already am a thirsty person by nature.
on tren I slept like a rock. I'm definately in the minority there, most guys complain about sleep issues.
cooltrouble
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Son:
First off, every thing under the son has a fuicking side effect if you dont be careful or take he neccessary precaution. Everyone's body works differently with every compound known to man. For us fellas, the main thing with any test is to make sure our dick still works at the end of the operation.
Insomina, NAAAHHHHH. Believe it or not, melatonin and ZMA did wonders for me. Rather take that than AMBIEN anyday.
Hey PatrickK, its not tru that if you take a tren only cycle, you wont grow on a test only cycle anymore down the road, thats not true, pure bullshit. You should seee one of my buddies, n all he like is tren. He does winny n test pro also. When i say he's fucking hugh, BELIE ME, he big n thats BEFOREEEE D MUTHAFUCKER even started using shit. So you could imagine. lolololol.
Yeah, your wonker do get get bigger while on cycle, shit everything else grows as you put on weight,so why wouldn't your dick. I think running gh with a cycle has to do wit that physiologically.
It pays to work out boys, it pays to work out.
CT
First off, every thing under the son has a fuicking side effect if you dont be careful or take he neccessary precaution. Everyone's body works differently with every compound known to man. For us fellas, the main thing with any test is to make sure our dick still works at the end of the operation.
Insomina, NAAAHHHHH. Believe it or not, melatonin and ZMA did wonders for me. Rather take that than AMBIEN anyday.
Hey PatrickK, its not tru that if you take a tren only cycle, you wont grow on a test only cycle anymore down the road, thats not true, pure bullshit. You should seee one of my buddies, n all he like is tren. He does winny n test pro also. When i say he's fucking hugh, BELIE ME, he big n thats BEFOREEEE D MUTHAFUCKER even started using shit. So you could imagine. lolololol.
Yeah, your wonker do get get bigger while on cycle, shit everything else grows as you put on weight,so why wouldn't your dick. I think running gh with a cycle has to do wit that physiologically.
It pays to work out boys, it pays to work out.
CT
ConanX
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Let me just say that Tren is my favorite AAS ever. I've tried a lot. Test, Primo, Deca, EQ, Tbol, Dbol, Anavar, Winny, Superdrol (beastdrol), Katanadrol, some Prohormone "tren", and I think a few others here and there.
Tren makes everything else look like some N.O. Xplode you get from GNC. Tren will change you daily. You will put on size and thickness. You will burn fat while you sleep. You can eat an effin pizza pie from dominos and wake up the next morning bigger and LEANER than the day before. Your back becomes wider, your shoulders pop, your arms, legs, abs, shoulders, chest, and lats grow veins you didn't know existed. It is seriously no joke.
Sides? It depends on how you react. I handled the sides easily and I was on 100mg ED for 8 weeks. Side effects could be shutdown libido, lactating titties, hair growth, hair loss, insomnia, night and day sweats, bad temper, loss of cardio, depression, high blood pressure.
You may get none of these sides. You may experience a side or two. You might get all of them wrapped up in one big hellbent package. That is why I always recommend shooting Tren Ace ED so that the levels are stable and that if you are starting to notice some bad sides, you can cut it back or drop it all together and it is out of your system quick. I also believe in ramping it up the first time. Start the first week on a weaker dose, see how you do, raise it up, see how you do, and increase if needed. I was fine. Only major negative in my book is that this AAS makes it so obvious that you are juicing. Everybody will be staring at you, even if you're in the mall just walking around with your girl. The shape and size it gives you as well as the definition and the veins. It just makes you look like a scary human being.
Tren makes everything else look like some N.O. Xplode you get from GNC. Tren will change you daily. You will put on size and thickness. You will burn fat while you sleep. You can eat an effin pizza pie from dominos and wake up the next morning bigger and LEANER than the day before. Your back becomes wider, your shoulders pop, your arms, legs, abs, shoulders, chest, and lats grow veins you didn't know existed. It is seriously no joke.
Sides? It depends on how you react. I handled the sides easily and I was on 100mg ED for 8 weeks. Side effects could be shutdown libido, lactating titties, hair growth, hair loss, insomnia, night and day sweats, bad temper, loss of cardio, depression, high blood pressure.
You may get none of these sides. You may experience a side or two. You might get all of them wrapped up in one big hellbent package. That is why I always recommend shooting Tren Ace ED so that the levels are stable and that if you are starting to notice some bad sides, you can cut it back or drop it all together and it is out of your system quick. I also believe in ramping it up the first time. Start the first week on a weaker dose, see how you do, raise it up, see how you do, and increase if needed. I was fine. Only major negative in my book is that this AAS makes it so obvious that you are juicing. Everybody will be staring at you, even if you're in the mall just walking around with your girl. The shape and size it gives you as well as the definition and the veins. It just makes you look like a scary human being.
Sold!!!! Lol
Also, the poster child and spokes person for Tren! lol
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haha thats exactly what I said when I read it
I didnt read the whole thread but here is my 2 cents. Some hate the sides and some get very few if any sides, im in the later and love tren. Your mileage may vary but you will never know what camp you are in until you try. With tren, a little goes an awful long way, especially is stacked with test.
jondale123
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yes well worth the sides i love it have ran it at 600mg a week only side was aggression for me but other than that i was great gained 55 pounds on my bp and and lost two inches in my waist idc what anyone says on here its worth it to me and run your tren higher then the testlike 400 600 or so it will blow your mind
ConanX
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Right now I have my test at 900mg. I'm starting up Tren on sat or sunday. I was always of the camp that you should have your Test highest. After reading many many posts, lots of people are suggesting to drop Test down to TRT doses and run the Tren strong.
You really feel that this is the best way to do it? I might drop the Test down to 300mg/week. Tren I will be taking 100mg ED.
I'm going back and forth so much on this and I only have a few days left before the Tren gets introduced so the more info I can gather on the low Test/high Tren protocol the better!
jondale123
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well tren at 700 and test at 400-500 the reason it works better than test higher then the tren is because they are both competing for the same receptors so you want more of the potent one to connect to the receptors and just keep the test levels at an amount to keep you feeling well and functioning.Right now I have my test at 900mg. I'm starting up Tren on sat or sunday. I was always of the camp that you should have your Test highest. After reading many many posts, lots of people are suggesting to drop Test down to TRT doses and run the Tren strong.
You really feel that this is the best way to do it? I might drop the Test down to 300mg/week. Tren I will be taking 100mg ED.
I'm going back and forth so much on this and I only have a few days left before the Tren gets introduced so the more info I can gather on the low Test/high Tren protocol the better!
Ripp42
Banned
Tren f's with your cortizol levels, tyroid, and cortizol levels.
T3 is a tyroid. Yes, its used as a cutter in this case its like hcg you take that for a better recovery. In this case you take T3 for the same reason. Followed by a pct dedicated to that. 12.5 of T3 is not gonna make you small to where you get no gains.
Tren will fuck you up! Ama bash for a min. ok,? You need to do some heavy research before using bc this shit is like no other drug! Not for the novice user.
Look up Tren sides. Look up Tren pct. Type taking T3 with Tren. Tren lowers cortizol levels?
Look up those reword them untill you get info.
Yes, Tren is the shit! But becarfull who you listen to. Ppl took Tren and still havn't came back right after one year!
Dont run longer than 06 weeks.
ConanX
Banned
I have heard the same and then I heard it being refuted that it's just BS. Not sure what to believe but I think I might just lower my Test down to 300mg and see what the hell happens!
ConanX
Banned
I got my blood panel taken a few weeks after a 8 week 700mg Tren A cycle with Anavar and Beastdrol and T included in there. Results came out with my cholesterol being better than the normal range. Everything came up excellent. I thought my cholesterol was going to be all wacky and my liver values would be highly elevated. I'm assuming the fish oils, milk thistle, red yeast rice, and other supps did the trick?
Ripp42
Banned
Yes, Im sure it did. I heard milk thistle is not good tho.
Umm... I thought ur cloresterol levels were gonna be screwed too.
Compete2Win
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If you're worried about tren sides run a prolactin inhibitor (Dostinex) with it and you'll be fine. I'd throw in T3 on a cutter as you mentioned.. would have to be very low dose on a bulker..
Perception is reality.. control the sides.. sounds like bs but hey if you're not strong enough than take some mood levelers.. GABA has a similar effect as alcohol w/o the calories or catabolism.
Perception is reality.. control the sides.. sounds like bs but hey if you're not strong enough than take some mood levelers.. GABA has a similar effect as alcohol w/o the calories or catabolism.
johnnyboy3689282
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If you dont mind me asking, where did you get this information from? Ive never heard of anyone having a supressed appetite while on tren?? Im not doubting but was wondering because that is the first i have heard about it. If anything I got hungrier as well as everyone else ive known to use it. And Just to add that if you are planning on running a synthetic version of a hormone that the body naturally produces it will lead to a shut down of the organ... This is how are bodies naturally work, so even if you plan on running a maintence dose of T3, make sure you have thyroid support and proper pct for your thyroid as well as your testes from the other aas...
Ripp42
Banned
I had suppressed appetite from Tren.
jondale123
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i was eating more and loosing fat idk my body is addicted to tren lol.... running it by its self actually makes my libido and sperm count shoot through the roof guess i am lucky idk
instant.muscle
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tren is the nectar of the gods as they say
Hit_the_weightS
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I'm trying tren for the first time this January. Can't wait!
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HarryHarry
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Tren is an amazing compound, others will moan abt its sides but if you can handle them tren should be the next compound in every cycle after test i feel, short bursts never go over 5 weeks and youl be fine. Only problems I had wer insomnia and night sweats. Messd with my sleep and made me slightly tired all day until i hit the gym, when you hit the gym on tren even lack of sleep for 3 weeks wont stop you destroying it in there,
gymjunkie09
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This is why I wanna try tren, the fact that you can eat to bulk and drop fat is ideal to me. I ran deca and had to drop the caber due to sides andy libido was still through the roof so I'm hoping the same will go for tren because dostinex is not am option for me because it turns me into an emotional bitch lol.
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This will be intresting to hear for me deca gives me slight ed without caber, but tren ace turns me into a walking dildo! I fukin love it, can't wait for my next run this jan hehe
hd heritage
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I ran tren ace last cycle that ended october 1st. Test E 750 wk, tren a 75mg eod later bumped to 100mg eod. Ran the tren 6wks I believe, took dostinex @ .5 mg twice a wk. I got great results from the tren. Could see seperation in my abs at 268 lbs & 47 yrs old & that was with a crappy diet & zero cardio. The side effects were bad. My bp was really high, night sweats bad, I had a damn attitude & was very edgey. Took very little to irritate me. Way out of character for me. I got the biggest horrible zits Ive ever seen. I still have marks from them now. Tren is no joke, very powerful, crazy results. For me personally...Im not going to use it again because as good as it is, the side effects just arent worth it for me as a recreational lifter. I just cant justify taking something that takes me that for out of my normal character. Everyone around me will appreciate that Im sure lol.
gymjunkie09
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268 with abs? You must be a beast lol
primo is also a good candidate for you... it isn't carb dependent like deca is.
I'm starting to like to run catabolic diets while on cycle. very small portions and reducing my food intake, it really helps drop the fat without worrying about losing muscle since you are letting the AAS provide the body with the environment to grow. this is ideal for those looking to cut and not bulk of course.
Just my opinion. I would not run that catabolic diet too long, eventually you will start to lose muscle tissue even if you are on drugs. Second, you will start to lose your memory especially your "semantic memory."Your body and brain need some glucose to function properly. Glucose is the form of sugar that travels in your bloodstream to fuel the mitochondrial furnaces responsible for your brain power. Glucose is the only fuel normally used by brain cells. Because neurons cannot store glucose, they depend on the bloodstream to deliver a constant supply of this fuel. You need fuel for your entire body as well, catabolic diets are alright for short time, but putting your muscles in a constant catabolic state will break down your muscles sooner or later.. It is a biological certainty...
Back on topic. Imo, no drug comes close to tren, tren is a comprehensive steroid----it covers everything. It simultaneously builds muscle and burns fat... it even drains the water from under your skin...By far the best steroid...
gymjunkie09
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Yeah I'm gonna use primo to cut with but I want to put another 15lbs or so on first, lookin to hit 210 before cutting...I'm gonna jump on a test/tren/mast cycle in about a month or so, that should get me there by April, I've been eating like a horse for months now and I dont want my bf to get outta control so I'm gonna give tren a go
Gearjunkie
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I Would rather use test tren var and Clen to cut n lean muscles
IMO its better choice for cutting
Motivation is all you need for big muscles.
Go hard or go home. MOFOS
hd heritage
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Ha! Im 6'3". I got down to 260 while I was off cycle. Im @ 272 now thanks to anadrol lol. Ab separation is fading some but that was expected. I was never as lean at 268 as I was on tren. That stuff gives incredible results but Id rather just stick with test, dbol, winny, anadrol. Keep it simple, avoid those nasty sides. Thats just me tho. Tren is very popular.
gymjunkie09
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Havnt used tren but I didn't like anadrol although it put 18lbs on me in 4 weeks, mostly water of course lol
gymjunkie09
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Yeah I was thinkn that but I didn't wanna run two tren cycles back to back Like that and I wanted to bulk with it my first run, although I don't plan on coming off (trt) so Idk if that would make a difference. Whatever I choose to run ill run clen and t3 with. I heard primo worked well in a calorie deficit as well.
you got some pics man? Your a f-in monster. lol
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