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Tren for size?

I understand the diet part. So are you saying Test/Tren would not be a good choice for a bulk cycle? My goal here is to add as much quality muscle as i can. What do you recommend then for a good strong "quality" bulk cycle? Again I will give you my stats and cycle history to help you better recommend something. 5'8 208 13% bodyfat. 28 years old and 5 cycles under my belt. first cycle: test 500mg. 2nd cycle: test at 500mg. 3rd cycle: test 500mg and deca 400mg. 4th cycle: test 500mg eq 600mg and d-bol 30mg. 5th cycle: test alone at 500mg. My last cycle was somewhat dissapointing and my diet was pretty darn good. This is why i feel i'm ready to try something a little more potent you might say. If you believe test/tren is better sutied for cutting, then what would you recommend for a good bulk cycle without the bloatedness/moonface?

I know opinions differ on bulk cycles. There are many different choices to run. The fact still remains that tren will do whatever you want it to do as long as diet and training are sufficient. I think tren is worth at least trying to find out for yourself. You have enough experience to run it if you choose to.

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Well my diet will be a "bulking" diet. I was actually trying to keep this cycle a little more simple than that. I was thinking more along the lines of 2 compounds with an oral added. So you would advise against tren when it comes to bulking then? I am looking for a strong yet relatively simple and cost effective bulking cycle. I think 4+ compounds is probably out of my range for the time being.

Wait and save up....... And do a proper bulking cycle. No hurry man

Or

Just Do a
Test prop n tren ace cycle for lean gains

You wont put much size on but you will get quality muscles it would be good n hard.

Either way it's your choice my friend
 
I am wanting to give tren a try but the opinions on its capabilities as a bulker seem mixed so it's hard to decide. As long as my diet is on point and i am getting enough calories to grow shouldn't a test/tren/d-bol cycle be plenty good for size gains? It seems like some are saying tren is good for size and some say it's better suited for leaning out. Hard to make a definite decision here. Just looking to grow.
 
tren is meant to put mass on. It works great to put mass on.

Yes it can be used to cut because it doesnt bloat.

Test/Tren is a great bulker.. so long as you are ready to deal w/ the sides of tren and so long as you are ready to take full 100% advantage of the tren.
 
I am wanting to give tren a try but the opinions on its capabilities as a bulker seem mixed so it's hard to decide. As long as my diet is on point and i am getting enough calories to grow shouldn't a test/tren/d-bol cycle be plenty good for size gains? It seems like some are saying tren is good for size and some say it's better suited for leaning out. Hard to make a definite decision here. Just looking to grow.

The point I think ur missing is tren is very versatile and can be used in any type of cycle desired. It can help put size on and it can lean u out. It just depends on the compounds accompanied with it and ur diet. I u eat big u will put on some mass. If u eat like a chicken then u will harden up and not gain much weight. I'd recommend u try the tren. But I'd rather see u run test / tren / eq. That's pretty simple.
 
As you said you want a quality muscles but still looking to bulk up.

IMO I would do 16week cycle

Dbols 1 to 4 40mg Ed

Test E 750mg 1 to 16 ...................or test prop 100mg Ed 1 to 16 for lean look less bloat

Eq 500mg 1 to 16
Remember to see descent results you have to cycle eq for bit longer and it will give you hard n vascular look after 10weeks

Tren E 200mg 1 to 8 weeks
This will help u put some lean muscle n strength

Stanzol 13 to 16 50mg e2d
It's will help u free you test so it can utilize more in muscle building n get off the bloat.

IMO by week 13 you would achieve a big vascular body.

Keep it in mind eat min 4000cal a day
And eat clean.

Muscle growth = 33% training 33% nutrition 33% rest

By the end of this cycle I would expect at least 15lb of solid muscle gain

G/J- I agree with ur cycle above except for 1 thing. I'd cut the eq short of the test by a week or maybe 2. U always want the test to run a lil further than the other compounds IMO.
 
tren is meant to put mass on. It works great to put mass on.

Yes it can be used to cut because it doesnt bloat.

Test/Tren is a great bulker.. so long as you are ready to deal w/ the sides of tren and so long as you are ready to take full 100% advantage of the tren.
What ancills protect you fro tren sides on cycle??

Forma?
 
Hey guys I was hoping you could tell me a bit about your experiences with tren when using it to build mass. I read a lot of articles about Tren being better suited for cutting but of course is diet dependant. For size gains, how would you rate a test/tren cycle? Thanks.

Size is alot about DIET. You can certainly gain size and mass with TREN if your eating big too.
 
Ok guys test/tren it is. What do you think the benefits of adding eq would be to this cycle? And what about d-bol the first 4 weeks?
 
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