tren drastically changes physique even on crappy diet??!

[P4D2A022]

thanks for the feedback chazk. i wont forget ur advise. i dont want to get any more bloated. my face is already kinda round so ill be keeping it clean, for the most part

 

[Bourget]

the more i research tren the more responses i see like " dude , i ate like shit and put on 15 pounds of muscle and got lean as hell , vascular as hell , and strong as hell!" ... what's the deal with this guys? is tren an exception to the rule of having ur diet in check?

I am definitely guilty of poor diet. And yes, Tren IS the exception. Even if your diet sucks you will still notice the results from Tren albeit not as good if you had followed a good diet.

 

[P4D2A022]

yep. im just gonna keep throwing the protein down as much as i can

 

[JLowe02]

thats because the benefits from diet are long term and benefits from tren start at short term. You can have a shitty diet for the first couple years you work out and still gain muscle, maybe even lose weight because your body is still having trouble adapting, but eventually, you will plateau forever unless your diet changes. And guess what? you can never take back all those years of eating like shit and you will be that far behind.

 

[advanced-stealth]

Very good post.

This is my take on it

1. Young ectomorphs (that's the tall and/or slender ones) can really benefit from getting as many calories down thier neck as possible, from whatever source.

One small problem with this, eating a less than healthy diet does develop bad eating patterns, and what you can 'get away with' when you are 16-30 ish isn't what you can get away with for the rest of your life.

2. When people want 'insta' muscle, they do focus on the short term gains and 'brag' about them.

Is this approach going to work in the long term?

Probably not.

3. If you rely on the drugs to make up for shortcomings in your diet and training, you really are shooting yourself in the foot.

You may not be able to juice for life, there are more reasons that health. Even if you avoid the legal aspects of it, there are a number of professional occupations that would frown severely on any drug use (even alcohol), as some professionals are responsible for the well-being of others, and anything that could alter their mental faculties would just be irresponsible and reckless.

 

[Pat_McCrotch]

my recent experience with tren is great. It is my new best friend!!! I am doing 50 eod with 100testp eod. I put on abou 10 lbs of muscle so far give or take a few.

When I say my diet is not on I mean I am not counting protien, carbs and fat. I am not dealing with macro nutrients. I just eat. I eat beef, chicken and fish among other things. My cals range from 2000-3000/day. My diet is not on point. I eat hot dogs at work for lunch one day then a salad toped with all kinds of shit the next and so on. i am very very very happy with my gains.


Keep in mind tht if you are not at a point in your trainng where you have busted your ass natty and ate right on or off cycle ever then your heart is not in lifting. You need to do the basics then try some tren. I would never do it as a 1-5th cycle. Use test. Youll do great on test alone.

 

[IronmanLV]

Tren is amazing stuff. It will allow you to eat not so clean and get away with it, however if you do eat clean the results are unbelievable. Tren is the only AAS I'm aware of that you can still gain muscle while dieting as long as you keep a relatively high protein intake of about 2 g/lb LBM/ED. I have used it several times and love the results with my only side, sweating like a pig when I eat, but beware for some the sides are unbearable.

 

[P4D2A022]

think im going to pin tren today for the first time! with some prop of course!

 

[theblondebomber]

im on my second week of tren,prop enanthate.so far not much.and im getting ready for a show in june.yea im getting leaner but its diet and cardio.this is my first time on tren and so far not too impressed.maybe a week or two more.im waiting.

 

[P4D2A022]

nothing yet? no night sweats or sides? is it def legit?