tren drastically changes physique even on crappy diet??!

[bigpimpin25]

the more i research tren the more responses i see like " dude , i ate like shit and put on 15 pounds of muscle and got lean as hell , vascular as hell , and strong as hell!" ... what's the deal with this guys? is tren an exception to the rule of having ur diet in check?

 

[str8nubin]

the more i research tren the more responses i see like " dude , i ate like shit and put on 15 pounds of muscle and got lean as hell , vascular as hell , and strong as hell!" ... what's the deal with this guys? is tren an exception to the rule of having ur diet in check?

No idea, no experience, but I don't believe...

Hopefully anyone even considering Tren thinks "eating like shit" = BK 2-3 times / week tops. Or else they were nowhere near their potential without it and never had a good diet in the first place...

Well lets hear the vets talk about "eating like shit" I guess

 

[Tatyana]

This is my take on it

1. Young ectomorphs (that's the tall and/or slender ones) can really benefit from getting as many calories down thier neck as possible, from whatever source.

One small problem with this, eating a less than healthy diet does develop bad eating patterns, and what you can 'get away with' when you are 16-30 ish isn't what you can get away with for the rest of your life.

2. When people want 'insta' muscle, they do focus on the short term gains and 'brag' about them.

Is this approach going to work in the long term?

Probably not.

3. If you rely on the drugs to make up for shortcomings in your diet and training, you really are shooting yourself in the foot.

You may not be able to juice for life, there are more reasons that health. Even if you avoid the legal aspects of it, there are a number of professional occupations that would frown severely on any drug use (even alcohol), as some professionals are responsible for the well-being of others, and anything that could alter their mental faculties would just be irresponsible and reckless.

 

[halfcenturian]

This is my take on it

1. Young ectomorphs (that's the tall and/or slender ones) can really benefit from getting as many calories down thier neck as possible, from whatever source.

One small problem with this, eating a less than healthy diet does develop bad eating patterns, and what you can 'get away with' when you are 16-30 ish isn't what you can get away with for the rest of your life.

2. When people want 'insta' muscle, they do focus on the short term gains and 'brag' about them.

Is this approach going to work in the long term?

Probably not.

3. If you rely on the drugs to make up for shortcomings in your diet and training, you really are shooting yourself in the foot.

You may not be able to juice for life, there are more reasons that health. Even if you avoid the legal aspects of it, there are a number of professional occupations that would frown severely on any drug use (even alcohol), as some professionals are responsible for the well-being of others, and anything that could alter their mental faculties would just be irresponsible and reckless.

+1

Any REAL bodybuilder knows that a solid "spot-on" diet is
the key to success. This is a marathon, not a sprint. EAT RIGHT!

 

[GUARDIAN]

Excellent post! Diet is key.

This is my take on it

1. Young ectomorphs (that's the tall and/or slender ones) can really benefit from getting as many calories down thier neck as possible, from whatever source.

One small problem with this, eating a less than healthy diet does develop bad eating patterns, and what you can 'get away with' when you are 16-30 ish isn't what you can get away with for the rest of your life.

2. When people want 'insta' muscle, they do focus on the short term gains and 'brag' about them.

Is this approach going to work in the long term?

Probably not.

3. If you rely on the drugs to make up for shortcomings in your diet and training, you really are shooting yourself in the foot.

You may not be able to juice for life, there are more reasons that health. Even if you avoid the legal aspects of it, there are a number of professional occupations that would frown severely on any drug use (even alcohol), as some professionals are responsible for the well-being of others, and anything that could alter their mental faculties would just be irresponsible and reckless.

 

[yourmomgoestocollege]

How much tren e are you guys running a week? 200mg a week good enough?

 

[rnch]

Excellent post! Diet is key.

and excellent doner DNA (like yours) doesn't hurt either.....but yeh, DIET is the key for all body types.

 

[flajice]

If you have a decent diet, clen can work wonders, especially when ran w/ eq

 

[gjohnson5]

Clen is garbage...

 

[gjohnson5]

Anyway many people have reported that tren ace stack with other stuff such as masteron have infact leaned them out. There is an associated metabolism increase using tren, however I'm not sure if I believe all the tales I've heard