tren cycle - cardio hit

[leonidas33]

The reason you are not seeing the gains you were expecting is because tren doesn't bloat you like dbol and deca do. If you have done test/dbol/deca cycles in the past, you are probably used to gaining 20+ lbs of water while on. Tren/test cycles will not do that to you, however you should be noticing strength, fat loss, and definition changes by now.

ok, i think you are right for the most part... I am seeing slight defintion and fat loss, and still have gained a few pounds... my strength just has not skyrocketed like it did for my boy who was on this right before me...

this is my first tren cycle btw... I may go to 100mg EOD instead of 50ED...

 

[leonidas33]

strength is not really increasing in any areas... maintaining good strength developed from first cycle back in the spring, but no new strength spikes like I was expecting to see from the tren.

I am 6'3" and 201lbs...

I workout an hour a day 5 days a week... my workout is focused and intense.

Diet... my weekly routine is pretty consistent from day to day (except weekends)... here goes...

7:45am - banana and whey protein drink
8:45am - 3 packets of oatmeal (2 regular and 1 apple cinnamon)
9:30am - 1 sweet potato
10:30am - handful of almonds or walnuts, or a couple of hard boiled eggs.
11:am - workout (low carb monster energy drink)
12:00pm - immediately after workout, 3 scoops whey protein mixed with cranberry juice - 1 bagel
1:00pm - 1 can of salmon, another sweet potato, 2 celery sticks, 2 hard boiled eggs (1 yolk)
3pm - metrx collossal bar - 32g protein, 40 carbs, 410 cals, 24g sugar
5pm - dinner - steak, chicken, or fish... something with high protein
8 or 9pm - can of salmon, and 2 celery sticks (1 scoop of BCAA) cranberry juice
in bed by 10pm

I also eat eggs throughout the day at different times if I can get them down. Also almonds or walnuts - usually 2-3 handfuls a day.

I try to get most of my carbs in the morning and higher protein in the mid-late day. I can't honestly say, I have counted the carbs/proteins/fats in this diet... but I do know that I try to keep something quality going in my mouth about every hour of the day...

how does my diet look? Anybody???

 

[chris69]

how does my diet look? Anybody???

I think it's looking Good, I WOULD CHANGE the oatmeal to natrual, and the bagel to whole wheat, but then again i'm OCD !

 

[leonidas33]

I think it's looking Good, I WOULD CHANGE the oatmeal to natrual, and the bagel to whole wheat, but then again i'm OCD !

why not? thanks for the suggestion!

 

[thezan]

strength is not really increasing in any areas... maintaining good strength developed from first cycle back in the spring, but no new strength spikes like I was expecting to see from the tren.

I am 6'3" and 201lbs...

I workout an hour a day 5 days a week... my workout is focused and intense.

Diet... my weekly routine is pretty consistent from day to day (except weekends)... here goes...

7:45am - banana and whey protein drink
8:45am - 3 packets of oatmeal (2 regular and 1 apple cinnamon)
9:30am - 1 sweet potato
10:30am - handful of almonds or walnuts, or a couple of hard boiled eggs.
11:am - workout (low carb monster energy drink)
12:00pm - immediately after workout, 3 scoops whey protein mixed with cranberry juice - 1 bagel
1:00pm - 1 can of salmon, another sweet potato, 2 celery sticks, 2 hard boiled eggs (1 yolk)
3pm - metrx collossal bar - 32g protein, 40 carbs, 410 cals, 24g sugar
5pm - dinner - steak, chicken, or fish... something with high protein
8 or 9pm - can of salmon, and 2 celery sticks (1 scoop of BCAA) cranberry juice
in bed by 10pm

I also eat eggs throughout the day at different times if I can get them down. Also almonds or walnuts - usually 2-3 handfuls a day.

I try to get most of my carbs in the morning and higher protein in the mid-late day. I can't honestly say, I have counted the carbs/proteins/fats in this diet... but I do know that I try to keep something quality going in my mouth about every hour of the day...

Im not sure how much you are eating of what you have laid out, but looks good for the most part...some changes i would make


Ditch the packets of oatmeal and go with raw...

add some protein in your 9:30 meal, eggs be best bet

Ditch the crannberry juice and bagel after workout, and go with straight protein and dextrose

add another sweet potato in you 1:00pm meal, not sure what 1 can of salmon is, but id be getting a good 50 g's of protein into me

Ditch the protein bar all together

Add more to your dinner besides protein, if your cutting id add some good green veggies and EFA's, but if your looking for size, id throw in brown rice into the mix

Id ditch the crannberry juice again at 8pm, looks like you are taking it for health promoting purpose?

Make up for your protein bar earlier, add cottage cheese right before you go to bed around 10pm

At 6'3, you could put alot of muscle on that frame. I would pound those carbs into ya, dont be scared of a lil fat, the tren will work wonders in that department, protein looks high, and lots of good fats from fish. Might wanna pick up some other good fats incase you skip out on fish for a couple of days. If your not seeing the gains you like so far...eat more, more and more. Good luck

 

[leonidas33]

Im not sure how much you are eating of what you have laid out, but looks good for the most part...some changes i would make


Ditch the packets of oatmeal and go with raw...

add some protein in your 9:30 meal, eggs be best bet

Ditch the crannberry juice and bagel after workout, and go with straight protein and dextrose

add another sweet potato in you 1:00pm meal, not sure what 1 can of salmon is, but id be getting a good 50 g's of protein into me

Ditch the protein bar all together

Add more to your dinner besides protein, if your cutting id add some good green veggies and EFA's, but if your looking for size, id throw in brown rice into the mix

Id ditch the crannberry juice again at 8pm, looks like you are taking it for health promoting purpose?

Make up for your protein bar earlier, add cottage cheese right before you go to bed around 10pm

At 6'3, you could put alot of muscle on that frame. I would pound those carbs into ya, dont be scared of a lil fat, the tren will work wonders in that department, protein looks high, and lots of good fats from fish. Might wanna pick up some other good fats incase you skip out on fish for a couple of days. If your not seeing the gains you like so far...eat more, more and more. Good luck

thanks for taking the time... appreciate the input.

 

[hanibal]

use EQ with it. that increases your cardio, more RBC. tren messed w/ my breathing last time. next time i use, i will only use 37.5ED. enough anyway IMO.