tren cycle - cardio hit

[leonidas33]

man... 3 1/2 weeks in... 50mg ed along with 100mg test ed... can't say I see a lot of gains from this stuff. workout and diet are in check... my biggest issue is the fact that my workouts leave me tired and sometimes short of breath... even when not working out, i get out of breath easy and also have the sweats... I think the cardio hit is causing the lack of gains... anything to counteract that?

 

[khemix]

Unfortunantly tren is notorious for giving people breathing problems and especially effecting their cardio performance. You should most definantly be seeing effects from the tren by now though. I feel it within the first 2 weeks and see it by the begining of the 3rd at latest. I wish I knew of something that counteracts the tren exhaustion but I havn't got a clue. Hopefully someone else will chime in but as far as I know there isn't much you can do .

Chris

man... 3 1/2 weeks in... 50mg ed along with 100mg test ed... can't say I see a lot of gains from this stuff. workout and diet are in check... my biggest issue is the fact that my workouts leave me tired and sometimes short of breath... even when not working out, i get out of breath easy and also have the sweats... I think the cardio hit is causing the lack of gains... anything to counteract that?

 

[ricorico]

shitty, tren does weird things to my breathing sometimes too. But my workouts are awesome, im superman in the gym while on tren.

 

[hesnobradpitt]

shitty, trenbolone does weird things to my breathing sometimes too. But my workouts are awesome, im superman in the gym while on trenbolone.

To true .

Brad.

 

[thezan]

How is your strength comming along? Also, id like to see a rough guide of your diet...

 

[ALIN]

man... 3 1/2 weeks in... 50mg ed along with 100mg test ed... can't say I see a lot of gains from this stuff. workout and diet are in check... my biggest issue is the fact that my workouts leave me tired and sometimes short of breath... even when not working out, i get out of breath easy and also have the sweats... I think the cardio hit is causing the lack of gains... anything to counteract that?

cut the tren back to 50-75mg EOD.

 

[leonidas33]

How is your strength comming along? Also, id like to see a rough guide of your diet...

strength is not really increasing in any areas... maintaining good strength developed from first cycle back in the spring, but no new strength spikes like I was expecting to see from the tren.

I am 6'3" and 201lbs...

I workout an hour a day 5 days a week... my workout is focused and intense.

Diet... my weekly routine is pretty consistent from day to day (except weekends)... here goes...

7:45am - banana and whey protein drink
8:45am - 3 packets of oatmeal (2 regular and 1 apple cinnamon)
9:30am - 1 sweet potato
10:30am - handful of almonds or walnuts, or a couple of hard boiled eggs.
11:am - workout (low carb monster energy drink)
12:00pm - immediately after workout, 3 scoops whey protein mixed with cranberry juice - 1 bagel
1:00pm - 1 can of salmon, another sweet potato, 2 celery sticks, 2 hard boiled eggs (1 yolk)
3pm - metrx collossal bar - 32g protein, 40 carbs, 410 cals, 24g sugar
5pm - dinner - steak, chicken, or fish... something with high protein
8 or 9pm - can of salmon, and 2 celery sticks (1 scoop of BCAA) cranberry juice
in bed by 10pm

I also eat eggs throughout the day at different times if I can get them down. Also almonds or walnuts - usually 2-3 handfuls a day.

I try to get most of my carbs in the morning and higher protein in the mid-late day. I can't honestly say, I have counted the carbs/proteins/fats in this diet... but I do know that I try to keep something quality going in my mouth about every hour of the day...

 

[leonidas33]

cut the trenbolone back to 50-75mg EOD.

but then I will be sure to not see any positive effects... right? since i am not seeing any of the positives at 50ed...!

 

[khemix]

but then I will be sure to not see any positive effects... right? since i am not seeing any of the positives at 50ed...!

I've always ran tren EOD without a problem. I actually have a few buddies that have had more side effects with shooting ED than EOD (doesn't make since to me though). I would stick with 75-100mg/eod. How many times have you ran tren?

 

[perryscoon]

The reason you are not seeing the gains you were expecting is because tren doesn't bloat you like dbol and deca do. If you have done test/dbol/deca cycles in the past, you are probably used to gaining 20+ lbs of water while on. Tren/test cycles will not do that to you, however you should be noticing strength, fat loss, and definition changes by now.