Tren A, Pros and Cons

[2ndfirehawk]

i never got the whole low blood sugar thing. you feel different when you have low blood sugar?

Yeah man very different. I got blurred vision and my hands were shaking real bad. not noticable to anyone looking at me but i knew something wasn't right. I'd hurry up and eat something or drink down some oj. real bad feeling

 

[2ndfirehawk]

every time i read these post i feal horrible that i used to come in here arguing that high doses are better. i was running so much fucking gear that i nearly killed myself. my heart looked like a streched pile a slime. the fact is you need to keep healthy aswell to grow. being on 3g and being out of breath just from standing up or being part of a conversation is no more supportive of muscle mass than being on a few hundred mg and being healthy. the proof.

me last year- 5'5'' 278lbs 20% bf 2g test susp 1g tren susp ew 8-9k cal diet praying to live
me now- 5'5'' 231lbs 6%bf (contest prep trial i stay under under 12% always) 250mg test e and a light eca stack, 5k super clean cals healthier than i have ever been and able to run a mile.
the difference is my health.

what a dumbass i was to think i needed all that shit. i needed more to support the muscle that my deminishing health was wasting. if you keep your number 1 focus on health you will need less gear. less is definately more.

and i say screw tren all together that stuff is poison

Wow, man that's insane. I am in a predicament though. I would not use tren but my local supplier dried up...

 

[ArmaniAK47]

I only read the first two pages...

I will share my experience.. It's with Parabolan (trenbolone hexahydrobenzylcarbonate) quite a bit longer acting than acetate...

I was only taking 100mgs a week, with my andropen 275 (like sus) ...

I have to say.. even that dose fucked with me a little bit.. I didn't know much about tren then.. I didn't have insomnia or odd dreams, perhaps the dose was too low for that.. I did sweat quite a bit more when sleeping.. and I ran out of breath walking up stairs..

Mass strength and a little fat loss were great though.. I felt "weird" the whole time using it though.. like my head wasn't right.. more aggressive etc..

I will use tren again, but at a lower dose than most do.. and only for shorter periods at a time..

A lot of you are calling it out for being harsh on your cholesterol.. but I'd be more worried about the shortness of breath, insomnia and such that came from it...

...seeing as most of you use winstrol...which ruins your cholesterol at 6mgs/day...

 

[Varga]

Perryscoon thats unreal. I love tren and have been on it for about six months at like 350mgs a week. I am going to run pct next month. I too get no sides other than shedding hair, but recently jumped on rogaine foam. I was concerned about pct or rebounding negatively from this; however, after reading you post I have new found hope...

You are going to have a hard time recovering unfortunately...6 months on tren is way too long to recover from.

 

[Varga]

I agree more is not always better. As a I got older I got smarter and learned my limits or sweet spot as some call it.
I really dont venture past 1gr of gear any more. Is either 1gr by itself or combined but is 1gr or less regardless.
350mg of tren is sufficient for a cycle along with 500mg of test you taking 850mg of juice. If you cant grow on that then you need to check source, diet or exercise.
I wouldnt run tren more than 6 weeks maybe 8weeks at most. Honestly if you think you need more gear to grow then is time to hit IGF and Growth. Once you do these 2 comounds for 6 months to 1 year on/off then a minimal amount of test will blow you up past you old gains. In other words you pretty much blew up whatever muscle cells you had and it's time to grow new ones.

 

[glennds]

I agree more is not always better. As a I got older I got smarter and learned my limits or sweet spot as some call it.
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i have been on this board several years now. the term "sweet spot" keeps coming up. it is a great term actually. your sweet spot is particular to only you.

it takes years of trial and error, and experience to find what works best for you . start small, you dont have to rush into a huge cycle and stack. in my experience less is more .

 

[BlackIron220]

cons for me are shitty sleep now. aggression isnt too bad

 

[Varga]

i have been on this board several years now. the term "sweet spot" keeps coming up. it is a great term actually. your sweet spot is particular to only you.

it takes years of trial and error, and experience to find what works best for you . start small, you dont have to rush into a huge cycle and stack. in my experience less is more .

True,
There are many variables that dictate dosage, just because someone takes boat load of gear doesnt necessarely mean you will gain more weight than taking less gear but using it in a smarter way.

 

[d_ant11]

I just did my first gear cycle ever. 0.5 cc of Tren every other day for 4 weeks. I didn't stack with anything else.

I experienced a very low libido (wife wasn't too happy bout that), couldn't sleep til I was absolutely exhausted, sore/hard nipples, and I was irritable/short fuse.

I noticed a big strength/endurance difference my first wkout to my last. With a little rest between sets I could lift all day with the same weight as previous set. My pump was better than anything I've ever experience in my lifetime. It's been 2 weeks since I have been off tren, I stopped lifting because of a weeks worth of rest then I took a week vacation with my wife and 5 kids and I still have the gains I made.....size wise. My sexual desires are back to normal, I can sleep, and i'm in a much better mood. I didn't do any PCT either. BTW - I'm 36yrs, 5'9", 212lbs, and my BF% is probably 22-25%. Most of the BF is my gut and spare tire and I am somewhat defined everywhere else????? The reason I am using gear is because whenever I try to better my diet and do cardio to lose weight I end up losing way too much muscle and not much of my midsection. I have a complex about being skinny again. I had two different workouts and did one on Monday/Thursday and the other Tues/Fri. Didn't do any cardio because I was worried about not gaining muscle while on gear.

I plan on doing another cycle of tren after 6 weeks off. I would like to stack with Clen and T3 and maybe mix in cardio this time around. I'm wondering if I need to look into PCT????

 

[h.m]

I just did my first gear cycle ever. 0.5 cc of Tren every other day for 4 weeks. I didn't stack with anything else.

I experienced a very low libido (wife wasn't too happy bout that), couldn't sleep til I was absolutely exhausted, sore/hard nipples, and I was irritable/short fuse.

I noticed a big strength/endurance difference my first wkout to my last. With a little rest between sets I could lift all day with the same weight as previous set. My pump was better than anything I've ever experience in my lifetime. It's been 2 weeks since I have been off tren, I stopped lifting because of a weeks worth of rest then I took a week vacation with my wife and 5 kids and I still have the gains I made.....size wise. My sexual desires are back to normal, I can sleep, and i'm in a much better mood. I didn't do any PCT either. BTW - I'm 36yrs, 5'9", 212lbs, and my BF% is probably 22-25%. Most of the BF is my gut and spare tire and I am somewhat defined everywhere else????? The reason I am using gear is because whenever I try to better my diet and do cardio to lose weight I end up losing way too much muscle and not much of my midsection. I have a complex about being skinny again. I had two different workouts and did one on Monday/Thursday and the other Tues/Fri. Didn't do any cardio because I was worried about not gaining muscle while on gear.

I plan on doing another cycle of tren after 6 weeks off. I would like to stack with Clen and T3 and maybe mix in cardio this time around. I'm wondering if I need to look into PCT????

if your goal is to only keep muscle while dieting, use a low dose of test or something like that.. or maby some anavar.. tren was a pretty bad choice. especially since your a little up in the age..
use an AI with test and you wont experience any bloat.